Trevor Story has a small hairline fracture near his wrist.

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I think that's probably the last straw.
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Honestly, I cringe whenever I hear wrist and break in the same breath. Has there been any reporting if this is similar or could manifest itself like Nomar's injury?
 

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Need clarification from our resident orthos here, but doesn’t swelling make it next to impossible to get an accurate image that shows hairline fractures?
Definitely not true.

Given the amount of money at stake, it's insane these guys don't have an MRI (and CT if needed) every time they are injured/even considering a stint on the injured list. This "negative X-Ray and wait and see" approach might work for most of us, but for professional athletes is NUTS.
 

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I don’t know what the actual fuck is going on here but it is possible they had advanced imaging and the fracture didn’t show up until now because as a fracture heals some bone will get resorted around the fracture site so what initially looks like just a “bone bruise” will actually show a fracture a few weeks out. But if he was having pain with a negative X-ray and they didn’t get advanced imaging… I don’t know what to say.
 

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I don’t know what the actual fuck is going on here but it is possible they had advanced imaging and the fracture didn’t show up until now because as a fracture heals some bone will get resorted around the fracture site so what initially looks like just a “bone bruise” will actually show a fracture a few weeks out. But if he was having pain with a negative X-ray and they didn’t get advanced imaging… I don’t know what to say.
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There were many occasions before Story was hit on the hand where he was shaking off the same hand or wrist after an at-bat and after making a diving play in the field. It would not surprise me to learn he had a previous injury to the hand or wrist.
 

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Resident ortho docs, what's the recovery time?
No idea as we don’t even know what bone we’re talking about here, but since he’s not even going to swing a bat for 10-14 days, and given the amount of time since he’s actually played… maybe the first or second week of September or roughly around the time the Sox fall to 30 games out of first.
 

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No idea as we don’t even know what bone we’re talking about here, but since he’s not even going to swing a bat for 10-14 days, and given the amount of time since he’s actually played… maybe the first or second week of September or roughly around the time the Sox fall to 30 games out of first.
Per the thread title we can narrow it down to something between elbow and finger-tip.
 

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For what it’s worth, first time I broke my wrist, the doctor only found a torn ligament and scoped my hand. It still hurt punching after and both the original surgeon and a very prominent specialist at Newton-Wellesley told me my tests were clean and it was “phantom pain.” Finally, another doc at BUMC found a hairline fracture on one or the little wrist bones along with some other junk and I had surgeries 2 and 3.
 

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For what it’s worth, first time I broke my wrist, the doctor only found a torn ligament and scoped my hand. It still hurt punching after and both the original surgeon and a very prominent specialist at Newton-Wellesley told me my tests were clean and it was “phantom pain.” Finally, another doc at BUMC found a hairline fracture on one or the little wrist bones along with some other junk and I had surgeries 2 and 3.
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For what it’s worth, first time I broke my wrist, the doctor only found a torn ligament and scoped my hand. It still hurt punching after and both the original surgeon and a very prominent specialist at Newton-Wellesley told me my tests were clean and it was “phantom pain.” Finally, another doc at BUMC found a hairline fracture on one or the little wrist bones along with some other junk and I had surgeries 2 and 3.
Who was the superstar ortho at BUMC that saved the day? I hope you had an MRI before getting your first surgery...

Tatis is another example this year of the ball being massively dropped on a wrist injury, a multimillion dollar mistake. His situation was obviously off-season, out of the country, and during a lockout... so hard to know if the SD medical staff really had any fault.

But the point remains that negative wrist X-Rays are in no way sufficient to rule out a fractured wrist bone. Scaphoid fractures (like Tatis) are particularly problematic and delayed diagnosis on these can be career/life altering.
 

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How do we feel about Story's first season? I guess it depends on if he is able to come back for a significant chunk of the season.

On the negative side, he clearly had a down year at the plate, continuing a troubling trend after a down year in 2020. How much of it is bad luck? How much of it was a year adjusting away from Coors? Concerns about his career hitting outside of Coors have not been culled by his performance this season; but can he rebound with another season away from the those wonky confines? His average exit velocity is a career low (88.8 mph) but not tremendously off his career average of 90.4 mph. His xWOBA did sink down to .296, and his K% increased significantly back to the levels he was at when he was a rookie.

On the plus side, he has been a good defender at 2B and provided real positive value there. He's had some real hot streaks and his May was pretty incredible, so he has potential to carry a team at the plate for portions at a time. His baserunning, while probably never going to be used as much in Boston, is still very good. He's at 2 bWAR this season; assuming he was healthy for a full season, you would put him at around, IDK, like 3.5 - 4 WAR? In the future, if he can just be a little bit better at the plate, he will be providing a lot of positive value, but it needs to happen.
 

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How do we feel about Story's first season? I guess it depends on if he is able to come back for a significant chunk of the season.

On the negative side, he clearly had a down year at the plate, continuing a troubling trend after a down year in 2020. How much of it is bad luck? How much of it was a year adjusting away from Coors? Concerns about his career hitting outside of Coors have not been culled by his performance this season; but can he rebound with another season away from the those wonky confines? His average exit velocity is a career low (88.8 mph) but not tremendously off his career average of 90.4 mph. His xWOBA did sink down to .296, and his K% increased significantly back to the levels he was at when he was a rookie.

On the plus side, he has been a good defender at 2B and provided real positive value there. He's had some real hot streaks and his May was pretty incredible, so he has potential to carry a team at the plate for portions at a time. His baserunning, while probably never going to be used as much in Boston, is still very good. He's at 2 bWAR this season; assuming he was healthy for a full season, you would put him at around, IDK, like 3.5 - 4 WAR? In the future, if he can just be a little bit better at the plate, he will be providing a lot of positive value, but it needs to happen.
He really seems a lot like Drew to me. Generally quietly doing things really well but struggled a little in their first season.
At this point I’d prefer him to just heal the wrist correctly and sit. I suspect he’ll be better next season- around an .800 OPS hitter with 25 HR’s. I’d also like to see him in the 2 spot in ‘25 and think he’d do better there.
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The funny thing is that he is similar to JBJ during his good years in Boston. JBJ always had a below average WRCplus, but combined with his defense he was a very good player to have on the team. Story's offense has been below average, but his superlative defense has made him a very useful and important member of the team.
 

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Story's slump at the beginning of the season was obviously horrific, but not out of line with bad months past Red Sox All Stars have endured at some point in their careers (e.g., Ortiz at the start of 2009; Bogaerts and Betts at different times in 2017). Let him get healthy and see what happens next year; I think he'll be due for a bounce back; players usually don't fall off a cliff at his age.
 

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Definitely some concerning signs offensively- he was lousy against RH, and on the road, and really only had that one good stretch. Of course, there were extenuating circumstances with him being on a new team, new position, new baby, etc. A lot of guys started out slow with their new teams this year; it’s a shame he got hurt but cautiously optimistic for next years
 

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Yeah, I didn't realize he was rehabbing either. 3/3 now with a HR time to bring him up.
 

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You almost hate to take Arroyo out of the lineup when Story is ready. If there was any chance they'd DFA JDM, he'd be a great candidate to rotate into the DH spot.
 

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I agree it seems terrible to take Arroyo out. With his regular playing time he has finally seemed to find his rhythm in the batter's box all while playing well at second. I hate to lose his contribution and also potentially set him back with less regular playing time. JD looks like he is running with a piano tied to his back. If he's hurt rest him or something. He's struggling to help this team which is out of contention anyways. Let's move on to the guys that could contribute next year and see what we have...
 

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You almost hate to take Arroyo out of the lineup when Story is ready. If there was any chance they'd DFA JDM, he'd be a great candidate to rotate into the DH spot.
The potential DH would be Arroyo - is that what you mean? He could also be backup at both SS and 2nd. Story is so good at 2nd I would be reluctant to move him for 2023.
 

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The potential DH would be Arroyo - is that what you mean? He could also be backup at both SS and 2nd. Story is so good at 2nd I would be reluctant to move him for 2023.
Yes. If Story goes back to 2B, they should be looking for ways to keep Arroyo in the lineup. DH would be a good spot for that and reduce chance of injury.
 

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The potential DH would be Arroyo - is that what you mean? He could also be backup at both SS and 2nd. Story is so good at 2nd I would be reluctant to move him for 2023.
I think that the intent should be that they use the DH slot as a rotational position to slot different players (Arroyo included) into as a means to keep Arroyo in the line up on a regular basis.