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Gunfighter I was ready to say I told you so about Edwards but then I almost ate those words. Dominates for 24 out of 25 minutes and still almost lost.
 

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I'm still a little shocked at the way that ended. Not because Diaz caught Edwards, but because (as you point out) once he did, he was so casual about getting a finish.

Not what I expected from a Diaz.
 

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Lewis vs. Gane for an interim Heavyweight belt just announced for early August.

Ngannou is pissed, and should be. But I guess that is what happens when you have a new champ without a long pedigree trying to play hard ball about who he fights next.

Probably over money too.
 

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I'm barely a casual UFC fan, so I'll ask what might be a stupid question: why is there zero chatter in this thread about Saturday's Poirier-McGregror 3 bout?
Isn't it considered a big deal? Or is McGregor not taken seriously?
 

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I'm barely a casual UFC fan, so I'll ask what might be a stupid question: why is there zero chatter in this thread about Saturday's Poirier-McGregror 3 bout?
Isn't it considered a big deal? Or is McGregor not taken seriously?
I follow UFC pretty religiously and can offer my take. Mcgregor is not a serious fighter anymore. He’s a spectacle and a showman and that’s that. I fully expect Diamond to annihilate him and Conor will probably go on to fight Nate Diaz again, probably on the same card as Nick/Lawler, and that’ll sell an insane amount of PPV buys. If they can somehow land Jon Jones on the same card, that would be the most bought PPV in UFC history and nothing would touch it for a long long time.

Honestly, I find the Burns/Wonderboy fight more intriguing as I think the latter could make things interesting a la Glover Teixeira in the LHW division if he can knock out Burns.

outside of the Conormania, this card kind of sucks for a PPV, and I don’t think a lot of the UFC hardcore fans see it as much to talk about. I hope Greg Hardy gets crushed as he’s a giant POS and I want to see Tuivasa do a shoey in the octagon
 

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I hate Conor as much as the next guy, but I think this is a bit oversold. If he ever came in conditioned, he can still be a force, and it looked like he had Dustin in trouble in the early part of their last fight until he did his predictable fade. Maybe a legit loss motivated him. Or maybe he’ll lose and go fight Jake Paul.
 

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Yeah he won the first round on all three judges scorecards last time. I think Poirer is the favorite but would love a vintage Conor performance.

I'm surprised anyone says this card "kind of sucks". The main event and semi main event are as good as you can get without having a title involved. I do not know much about the women fighting but Greg Hardy vs Tuivasa should be entertaining and even though O'Malley is fighting *another* bum he is fun to watch.

I'm very excited for the card.
 

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Yeah he won the first round on all three judges scorecards last time. I think Poirer is the favorite but would love a vintage Conor performance.

I'm surprised anyone says this card "kind of sucks". The main event and semi main event are as good as you can get without having a title involved. I do not know much about the women fighting but Greg Hardy vs Tuivasa should be entertaining and even though O'Malley is fighting *another* bum he is fun to watch.

I'm very excited for the card.
If you look at the last four PPV cards and then try to make the argument this is as good as them, we have zero to discuss.
 

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Last four Conor cards, or last four cards period?

Anyway, Conor can definitely catch Poirier, but I don't think he'll have much of a chance over five rounds against a patient approach.

Even if he's learned to check leg kicks, I think Dustin's pressure will be too much.

Personally, I'm more interested in the Ryan Hall fight on the under card. I think the main card would be a lot more interesting if O'Malley fought someone with a name. I'd like to see him get smashed after all the whining about his first loss, but I don't think someone recently promoted is going to do it.
 

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O’Malley is going to kill that kid, but I agree I’d love to see an upset. Some of his hype is justified but he’s also super protected.

I watched an interview with Ryan Hall the other day and came away very impressed. He’s an intelligent guy.

As far as the last 4 ppvs cards. They’ve all been fantastic. But this is better than the 262 card and I say that as a big Dariush fan. But what an odd burn to throw out. Let’s just all enjoy this great sport instead of getting into a pissing contest?
 

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O’Malley is going to kill that kid, but I agree I’d love to see an upset. Some of his hype is justified but he’s also super protected.

I watched an interview with Ryan Hall the other day and came away very impressed. He’s an intelligent guy.

As far as the last 4 ppvs cards. They’ve all been fantastic. But this is better than the 262 card and I say that as a big Dariush fan. But what an odd burn to throw out. Let’s just all enjoy this great sport instead of getting into a pissing contest?
Works for me. I’ve already channeled all my available potential irritation for Stephen A Smith and have none left for anyone else.
 

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I know one of Moutinho’s cornermen, lol. Close friends in middle school. Expect O’Malley to win pretty easily but being wrong would be ok.
 

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I mean, you could get Mayweather -250 at Bovada right before the fight due to all the square action signing up. That was a fucked up betting event and comparisons don't really mean much.
I thought it was -600 and touched -400. That’s really funny that it got to -250.
 

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I'm barely a casual UFC fan, so I'll ask what might be a stupid question: why is there zero chatter in this thread about Saturday's Poirier-McGregror 3 bout?
Isn't it considered a big deal? Or is McGregor not taken seriously?
This thread stays quiet quite often.

Interesting fight. Conor has to win this or his act will no longer work. I'm pulling for him because the UFC is a more interesting league with Conor McGregor in contention.
 

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I thought it was -600 and touched -400. That’s really funny that it got to -250.
Yeah, it wasn't -250 everywhere, but I definitely hammered -250 at Bovada while I was standing in line for a bar to watch the fight. Bovada is the first place new square players would sign up (at least back then prior to US legalization), so the odds there will be very different sometimes.
 
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A couple years ago, Herb Dean waited until Jim Miller had choked Clay Guida until he was way past unconscious to stop it and I find myself questioning his stoppage decisions more and more ever since.
 

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McGregor has a massive cocaine problem and doesn’t seem particularly hungry anymore (which makes sense, because cocaine). I don’t think he’s got the Rocky III comeback in him, which kind of sucks, because I love top notch strikers, and his leg kick and tactics used to be real weapons even if they didn’t quite rival the left.

That second Diaz fight was a clinic, even out of shape, of how to fight a bigger man.
 

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Yeah, it wasn't -250 everywhere, but I definitely hammered -250 at Bovada while I was standing in line for a bar to watch the fight. Bovada is the first place new square players would sign up (at least back then prior to US legalization), so the odds there will be very different sometimes.
I was fortunate enough to be dating a woman who was in Belfast at the time. I forget what I got but I was happy.
 

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I’m behind, on the Gilbert/Wonderboy fight.

Ehhh. Guy got three takedowns and didn’t substantially improve position or go for a submission twice. Shit fight, and the decision incentivizes that kind of fight. But, like many kickboxers and karate fighters, Wonderboy needs to learn how to win a fight where he has to get off first. He didn’t dissuade Gilbert and deserved that loss. Can’t win by countering if the guy you’re up against won’t punch.
 

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That’s frustrating. Everyone is now going to make excuses for Conor like he wasn’t going to get mauled the rest of that fight. Really disappointing
 

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That’s frustrating. Everyone is now going to make excuses for Conor like he wasn’t going to get mauled the rest of that fight. Really disappointing
You’re a fanboy. We get it.

Theres no excuses to be made. The guy’s foot was ready to fall off.
 

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Dustin’s a good shit. He’s in a real bad position here. He’s done awesome.
 

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You’re a fanboy. We get it.

Theres no excuses to be made. The guy’s foot was ready to fall off.
Ive never watched Poirier before but it was pretty clear to me he was handily beating McGregor. Pretty ridic for McGregor to act like his leg cost him a chance at winning. IMO his leg saved him, thus the "doctor stoppage" garbage.

I guess money talks, but from a competitiveness standpoint, not really interested in seeing this again.
 

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Conor can always land a left hand but if Dustin avoids that Dustin is a bad fight for him. Dustin is slick, tough, naturally bigger, and a better grappler.
 

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Ive never watched Poirier before but it was pretty clear to me he was handily beating McGregor. Pretty ridic for McGregor to act like his leg cost him a chance at winning. IMO his leg saved him, thus the "doctor stoppage" garbage.
What the fuck are you talking about?

Connor’s a fucking asshole. But his foot was hanging by skin. Jesus, you get that they stand up to start the next round, right?
 

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I mean it was 1 round in which he might’ve had a broken leg for a portion of it and made a terrible strategic decision.
 

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Ive never watched Poirier before but it was pretty clear to me he was handily beating McGregor. Pretty ridic for McGregor to act like his leg cost him a chance at winning. IMO his leg saved him, thus the "doctor stoppage" garbage.

I guess money talks, but from a competitiveness standpoint, not really interested in seeing this again.

He has been in a lot of really good fights. Check them out if you have a chance.
 

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That's not the ending I wanted to see. I do wonder if there's any truth to him fracturing it on an earlier leg kick. It would help explain why he stupidly went with the guillotine. That never works. Best case is he gets up off the ground quickly after burning out his arm.
 

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What the fuck are you talking about?
I dont understand what is confusing about what I wrote. He was about to just plain lose, and decisively. That would have meant finit.

He now gets to play the medical stoppage angle...arguing "it wasnt decisive".