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Ale Xander

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Thank fuck

hadn’t been so anxious throughout since 2013 ALCS actually fast forwarded a couple times for 3-5 minutes a couple times after offsides. Missed the PeN

Didn’t want to be as angry as I was after Rio
Didn’t want Lloyd’s last touch to be that bad

still frustrated at MegRap for not hitting Horan when she was wide open in front by herself and shooting and missing


really really frustrated at Press for not hitting Morgan when she was instride and onside and just losing it

frustrated at the Williams sub out

Survive and advance!

PS Naeher needs to get a call from Bayer to do a commercial
 
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Ale Xander

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They got to work in practice on creating “run of play pseudo corners” so there’s no danger of offsides

Also solidify the defending
Worried about a Sinclair hat trick
 

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I haven't seen much of Naeher, but god DAMN does she go early on penalties. Other teams will have seen that and will be prepared if they take the US to penalties.

This is the third kick. She's already feinted to her right and is committed to her left. It ultimately didn't matter as this is the one that dinked the post and in, but this is bad bad bad.

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And yet, she stopped two penalties. Stopping even one is considered good.

It's got to help the keeper when the penalty takers have tired legs from playing extra time.

I watched Kasey Keller in practice one time. He would call out the side the penalty taker was shooting just before he moved. He really could read the side they were going to take about 80% of the time.
 

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And yet, she stopped two penalties. Stopping even one is considered good.

It's got to help the keeper when the penalty takers have tired legs from playing extra time.

I watched Kasey Keller in practice one time. He would call out the side the penalty taker was shooting just before he moved. He really could read the side they were going to take about 80% of the time.
I’m not trying to take anything away from her. My concern is the other teams watching this and prepping for the next shootout. She has a massive, exploitable weakness.
 

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I’m not trying to take anything away from her. My concern is the other teams watching this and prepping for the next shootout. She has a massive, exploitable weakness.
Is it a crutch she's historically relied on for penalties? I haven't watched enough to know.
 

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Is it a crutch she's historically relied on for penalties? I haven't watched enough to know.
Like I said, i haven’t seen much of her. It sticks out like a sore thumb, however. If you watch a replay of the shootout, you’ll see the Dutch keeper was actually far more disciplined. The US players simply gave her no chance.
 

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For the last 5 minutes, they seem to have no idea what they are doing when playing out of the back...lost the ball twice in dangerous positions.
 

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Oh, boy. Naeher just hurt either her knee or ankle. Franch is coming in.

EDIT: Or maybe not? Naeher is going to give it a go.
 

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Yeah, she tried to take one goal kick, and she needs to come off. I'm not sure I've seen Franch in the side at all except for some friendlies against overmatched teams that barely had a shot all game.
 

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Dreadful first half. No shots on goal for either team, and seemingly every US first touch is heavy and leads to a turnover. The 3 US midfielders cannot get through the midfield 4 of Canada at all.
 

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Neither team looks threatening. Canada is faster, but can’t make any meaningful use of it. US back up keeper is in and they couldn’t get a shot on goal. US can’t string together more than 2 or 3 passes. Bleh.
 

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That may be the worst penalty call I have ever seen. The attacking player did not have possession or position till she ran into the defender's swing.

VAR has gone too far here.
 

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The US has no attacking game plan it seems. How can I hear so much about the talent and creativity and all I see are long balls into the box. No passing, no interplay just long balls.
 

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They did a better job of retaining possession, but outside of a couple Rapinoe crosses and a Lloyd header that hit the crossbar it didn’t amount to much. Just an ugly game.
 

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Lousy game. Neither team deserved it. Canada was basically playing for penalties after 0-0 and got lucky.
You can suck it after the 72 hoops level theft in London. Revenge for one of the biggest injustices. The only thing more fitting would have been if it was terrible call against the USA.

Rapinoe pushed the rules as far as she could and flopped around like Lebron the last 10 minutes.

The Yankees can win it now and I will still love this year.

Speaking of 72 I loved USA announcers discussing the horrible sportsmanship of Canada's women's team for daring to complain about a referee call then going straight to another mournful retrospective on 72 hoops was a chef's kiss.

I played hoops with Janine Beckie's dad, and he tragically died when she was very young. I am very happy for her and her mom.
 

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They did a better job of retaining possession, but outside of a couple Rapinoe crosses and a Lloyd header that hit the crossbar it didn’t amount to much. Just an ugly game.
Maybe they should not be playing soccer in Tokyo in August, but that is a post for a different thread.
 

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I feel for Lloyd (who I don't love) working her old ass off to get to this tournament and back to the forefront of the team, and then having this result as the last moment. I'm not sure I fully understood the rhyme and reason to Andonovski's pattern of starters/subs throughout the tournament. Just seemed that 90% of the time, there was no flow. Is that a system thing, or is it a personnel thing? Who knows. Disappointed that Llloyd, Rapinoe, maybe Morgan and Heath may all be done, and this is how they went out. Disappointing tournament for them.
 

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You can suck it after the 72 hoops level theft in London. Revenge for one of the biggest injustices. The only thing more fitting would have been if it was terrible call against the USA.
I mean it was a pretty terrible call.
Running into a defender in the process of clearing a ball who has already started her leg swing should not be a penalty.
 

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I mean it was a pretty terrible call.
Running into a defender in the process of clearing a ball who has already started her leg swing should not be a penalty.
I mean it was a pretty terrible call.
Running into a defender in the process of clearing a ball who has already started her leg swing should not be a penalty.
not as bad as London

will the USA women complain about the call, they told the Candians only losers complain about calls
 

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not as bad as London

will the USA women complain about the call, they told the Candians only losers complain about calls
Sure, not as bad as London. Still a bad call. But good for you for beating the dead horse of a play from 9 years ago instead of just celebrating joyfully for your squad. A squad who, I suspect, most people in here will root for in the gold-medal contest.
 

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Canada's greatest ever sports moment came after a goon purposely broke an opponent's ankle because he was too good for them, so I've never really felt too sorry for them about 2012.

I did enjoy someone's rant in here a few years ago about that call in 2012 being the most scandalous call in sports history and that the game was clearly rigged.

Anyways, it's 3:20am, I should probably try to get a little sleep. Good luck in the gold medal game.
 
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Sure, not as bad as London. Still a bad call. But good for you for beating the dead horse of a play from 9 years ago instead of just celebrating joyfully for your squad. A squad who, I suspect, most people in here will root for in the gold-medal contest.
Get bent
People still talk about Bucky Dent, and Dave Roberts
It was an epic screw job and American media went hard at the Canadians for complaining.
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Canada's greatest ever sports moment came after a goon purposely broke an opponent's ankle because he was too good for them, so I've never really felt too sorry for them about 2012.
this was okay too
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuGG9hV1tos


you have zero, zero understanding of the 72 series to say that. less than zero.
But speaking of 72 how often has NBC revisited the hoops loss this olympics?
 

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2012 was also the game that featured Tancredi stomping on Lloyd. She should have been sent off. Somehow that always gets forgotten in these rants.
 

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you have zero, zero understanding of the 72 series to say that. less than zero.
But speaking of 72 how often has NBC revisited the hoops loss this olympics?
I was basically saying it just to fuck with you. It's my personal favorite way to really get a Canadian riled up. But Clarke is still an asshole.

I don't know what NBC has said about 72 during this Olympics. I personally haven't seen a single mention of it. NBC did point out that the 2012 soccer game was very controversial during the pregame, though. I'm also not remembering this supposed character assassination that the entire US media apparently carried out against that Canadian team, either. But I'll take your word for it
 

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Forget it, he's rolling.
Fucking rights. It 4:30 am here.
I waited a lot longer for the SOx to beat the Yankees. But this is right up there.
I hope the USA women are happy the rest of the world is catching up. It is hard to describe how hated they were in countries where women don't even get to play, and players had to fundraise/borrow money to get to the world cup when they complained about their share, what they got for money.

USA still has huge advantage, and the NCAA trained most of if not all our team.

Unlike other Canadian fans I recognize the proximity to the USA greatly helps our female athletes, since despite best efforts sports participation is still skewed heavily in favor of boys, so due to title 9 many more Canadian women are on USA teams than emn, though hockey and GTA hoops mitigates that's gap a bit.

USA olympic media is as bad as Canadian hockey coverage, and you can check I complain about the homerism on TSN in world juniors.
USA it appears has already caught and passed Canada in hockey.

But this is great. I hope Hope Solo bet the last of her meth money on USA this game.
 

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Wow. A pretty putrid performance by the US in a huge spot. Hats off to Canada who executed a game plan and controlled the midfield.

That’s a bullshit penalty call. A defender has the same rights to swing their leg as an attacker. It’s dangerous for both players to come flying into someone’s kick. Horrible call.

It was a huge risk to basically run it back with the WC squad given the age, the pandemic, and how condensed the Olympic schedule is. Of course, it’s hard to argue that this squad shouldn’t get the chance to see out the cycle (which typically ends with the Olympics) or that individually each of these players isn’t deserving. It would have been a tough, tough call for any manager to call up a different squad, never mind a new manager at his first major tournament.

most of this falls on Andonovski. The team had no rhythm in attack. It was leaky in defense. It relied so much on individual brilliance because there was sparse cohesion. Even with the squad he selected, I think he should have built the XI around Sam Mewis and Rose Levelle while also giving Williams a super sub role every match.

Hats off to this generation of the USWNT, who can take their place among the greatest we’ve seen. The future is bright - Macario, Rodman, Cook and many more will be pushing for a spot on the 2023 squad.
 

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Wow I just saw the highlights. I can't comment on the game but I can on that penalty call. The US player had the inside track to the ball and began to kick when the Canadian player came flying in at the last moment. She started to swing her leg when the Canadian player was still behind her, but the Canadian player (who was really fast) got there as the leg began to swing forward. The Canadian player stuck her leg out when the American's leg swung forward and thus made contact.

No WAY can you call a penalty on that. Absolutely no way. That VAR confirmed it is a disgrace.

But from the comments here it seems like (a) Canada outplayed the US anyway, and (b) somehow it's all fine because of some terrible call against Canada eons ago.
 
Blame VAR for the penalty decision. That never gets called as a penalty in the normal flow of play - and it wasn't. But as soon as VAR gets forensic on the incident, there really is no way not to call that a penalty. I know, the Canadian player lunged forward and got a speed advantage because she wasn't really trying to play the ball and the American was, but you can't really take that into account when that sort of contact is made. Morally, never a penalty...but by the letter of the law, as viewed through the lens of VAR, I don't see how they could not give that as a penalty. (I blame VAR for existing more than anything.)

That sort of call always feels worse when it's at the very corner of the penalty area, of course. Not even VAR-reviewed if it happens one meter further away from the goal...but there you go.
 

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Wow I just saw the highlights. I can't comment on the game but I can on that penalty call. The US player had the inside track to the ball and began to kick when the Canadian player came flying in at the last moment. She started to swing her leg when the Canadian player was still behind her, but the Canadian player (who was really fast) got there as the leg began to swing forward. The Canadian player stuck her leg out when the American's leg swung forward and thus made contact.

No WAY can you call a penalty on that. Absolutely no way. That VAR confirmed it is a disgrace.

But from the comments here it seems like (a) Canada outplayed the US anyway, and (b) somehow it's all fine because of some terrible call against Canada eons ago.
The US did not play well, but Canada played terribly for the final 45. The penalty came after 20 minutes where they basically did not have the ball. This wasn't a game where Canada got a call but played well enough to win.

I think the issue with the VAR call was that it did not show the entire sequence just the swing and make contact. Even with that, I could not believe the call, but if they had shown 5 seconds no one in their right mind would say that was a penalty.
 

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Blame VAR for the penalty decision. That never gets called as a penalty in the normal flow of play - and it wasn't. But as soon as VAR gets forensic on the incident, there really is no way not to call that a penalty. I know, the Canadian player lunged forward and got a speed advantage because she wasn't really trying to play the ball and the American was, but you can't really take that into account when that sort of contact is made. Morally, never a penalty...but by the letter of the law, as viewed through the lens of VAR, I don't see how they could not give that as a penalty. (I blame VAR for existing more than anything.)

That sort of call always feels worse when it's at the very corner of the penalty area, of course. Not even VAR-reviewed if it happens one meter further away from the goal...but there you go.
So to be clear....

If there's a ball near you and me, and I swing my leg FIRST, and *after* I start swinging my leg, you stick your leg out between my foot and the ball, and my foot strikes your leg, it's automatically a foul on me? Even though I started my kicking motion first?