Vince Wilfork: new 3 year deal for $22.5m to stay with Patriots
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Dumb by Vince. At his age and weight and coming off injury he will be lucky to get half his contract on the open market. And the Pats showed they can win without him last year. Thanks for the memories big fella.
Shocked and a little disappointed that Vince wasn't willing to restructure his deal. Either way, if they use the cap space to shore up the pass rush, resign Edelman, and add Browner/Woodyard, the team will be better off.
I wonder how low the Pats low-ball figure was?
This may open the door to a Allen/Peppers/Tuck move
This may open the door to a Allen/Peppers/Tuck move
MT @RapSheet No recent talks between Vince Wilfork & the #Pats about his contract. Approached him once about a restructure, a non-starter.
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/444178588237967360
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/444178588237967360
I'm fine with it. Who knows what Siliga can do over the course of the entire season, he's obviously not Vince, but if they have to settle with Siliga I think I'd be comfortable with that. He played extremely well in his limited time last year. I'm particularly fine with Vince leaving if the money freed allows them to add Allen.
amarshal2 said:
I'm not sure that Silinga is going to be a huge step down from 2014 Vince Wilfork, given size, age, and injuries, and I've been hoping for a release all along. Sucks it has to end this way from a personal standpoint, but from a business standpoint, I'm glad it happened this way. A restructure was still going to cost too much against the cap for my liking.
I will say I am actually very surprised a re-structure was a non-starter. We love you Vince, but you have to know you're not worth 12 million bucks on the open market.
Anyway, Wilfork next to Knighton in 3...2...1...
I kid, I kid. I think.
So why is he asking for his release now? I understand if the Pats were pushing hard for the restructure and he felt he'd be cut sooner or later so the sooner the better before the well is dry. But if they haven't had any recent talks the timing, at least, seems odd.soxhop411 said:
This is where I hope people remember that part of what's made the Patriots successful all of these years is their ability to avoid the "emotional move" and focus on what's really best for the team. Vince at his current cap number isn't what's best for the team. Honestly, I think he's sort of doing them a favor from a PR perspective here (not intentionally, but the Pats would rather say "he requested this" than they would "we decided to cut him.")
My guess is the recent talk in the press was the Pats wanted to see him in OTA to determine his value. Maybe he didn't want to be in that position of getting a June ultimatum from the Pats of restructure or we'll release you.This way he has more time and more teams to to negotiate with.JimD said:
That frees up money to go get another pass rusher and they can draft a run stuffing DT in the draft. This doesn't cripple them if they do in fact release him. Hell, they had 2 UDFA's there and went to the AFCCG. Now, they have time to get an adequate replacement and build depth at the position.
steveluck7 said:
Could probably be had for the vet minimum
Sick one-handed grab of the chair at the end there. Slot receiver?
E5 Yaz said:
Couldn't agree more. He was already showing signs of decline before the injury and I can't say I was too eager to find out how hard the achilles would push him off the cliff in 2014. A restructured and effective Wilfork would have been great but it clearly wasn't going to come together. In the end, it isn't a catastrophic loss if they use their money and draft picks well.
Matt Young's Control said:
I believe so. Mankins was drafted in the draft just after the Pats won their 3rd.
Obviously a lot of chips still need to fall here, but I echo those saying there's legitimate silver lining here and not just from a PR perspective. Hypothetically I'd be thrilled if they pick up Allen or Peppers, retain Kelly, and draft a D tackle in the first round. Sad to see Vince go but it makes sense.
steveluck7 said:
Could probably be had for the vet minimum
Scouting report:
- Big hands
- Loves the game
- Good initial burst
- Can sink hips and anchor point of attack
- Two-gap penetrator
E5 Yaz said:
100% agree. I know this was an explainable move when you consider the business/production standpoint, but damn, Big Vince was easily my second favorite Pat behind Brady, and this move depresses me, no matter what they save. It's great for the Patriots for the future, but it still sucks to see him go like this.
Never Forget:
Dick Pole Upside said:
Can engage multiple opponents at the same time.
Tough to see Vince go, but I think he's making the right play here for himself.* Good luck to him.
* In terms of controlling his own fate if not in terms of dollars.
Does anyone here think that any team will sign him for more than a 1 year, make-good type of contract for $5M or so? He is 33, huge, and coming off a severe injury. For a business savvy guy / family, I can't believe he is asking for his release. An extension / restructure would net him much more money.
When Vince was at his best he was a major plus to the defense, and worth the contract. The problem I see, with most interior offensive and defensive lineman, is unless you are a top 3 at your position, there is not a noticeable drop off. Would the pats have been better last year with Vince? of course, but Mayo was the one that was hardest to replace. Same with Talib, there was a noticeable drop off in production when those two where down, but not necessarily with Vince. Lets say they replace him with someone who makes 6 million less, couldn't there be a greater upgrade from that 6 million say at WR with that money than the upgrade to Vince? Especially with the league turning pass happy, stopping the run is losing value.
If Vince gets cut, I could see Bill going with by far the smallest and quickest D-line in the league to get after the QB (especially with Revis back there), and 5 years from now 1/2 the NFL will be doing the same
If Vince gets cut, I could see Bill going with by far the smallest and quickest D-line in the league to get after the QB (especially with Revis back there), and 5 years from now 1/2 the NFL will be doing the same
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Dick Pole Upside said:
- Can contribute in stuffing the pass
- Agile moving forwards and backwards
- Comfortable in patriot-blue leggings
tims4wins said:
He's quitting before he gets fired. I'm also not sure that the Pats sign him to a deal where he is guaranteed all or most of the 7.5 he was owed for this year.
What he said, exactly. Go after a pass rusher and draft a DT. Sorry, Vince. Hope this wasn't a power play 'cause it's just what the doctor ordered.Jungleland said:
Well, the females in the crowd just got roughly 85% better looking. I loved Vince, but to echo the prevailing sentiments, he just isn't the same guy anymore. The injury was just the final nail in the coffin, but I recall a lot of people that know a lot more than me about football commenting in game threads about how he isn't eating up two blockers anymore, not getting a big push, etc.
I hope this is just posturing for a better restructure deal and not an absolute line in the sand for Vince.. who I would hate to have him leave like this. After my first reaction of sadness, I my immediate thought was on Bianca's twitter.. which could be very entertaining in the near term.
Mugsy's Walk-Off Bunt said:
Yeah, realistically, it was time to start looking for a replacement in the draft anyways. The Patriots probably should have really been looking into that during last year's draft knowing that Vince was in his last fully guaranteed year in 2013.
Hey, can the dude who learned that the pro shop was told to move Wilfork merch give me a heads up when the order comes to move Brady merch? I'll want to be away from sharp objects.
PROBABLY not the case.....but hasnt Vince been a guy who has always said "when I cant do it anymore at a level I feel I need to be at I am done".
Maybe the achillies isnt coming back like he hoped and he is honoring the Pats with his word.
Maybe the achillies isnt coming back like he hoped and he is honoring the Pats with his word.
