WCQ 2022: Qualifiers for Qatar's Questionable Quagmire

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If Ukraine knocks Scotland and Wales out of the world cup in the span of a few days, Boris Johnson's going to send their team home with another 1000 NLAWs, maybe some howitzers.
 

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Wales/Ukraine just kicked off. Ukraine put one in the net off a free kick, but ref pulled it back, saying he hadn't signaled for play to restart.

Two Spurs plus Bale on Wales, but Ukraine is my team today.
 

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Oh, that’s brutal. Heart breaking. Hope Yarmalenko scores one to level his account.
 

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Dammit
I have nothing against Wales, it’s my favorite portion of GB.

but this blows
 

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Sticking that mitt up to save the header late will make it so that Hennessy gets a lot of the talk. But Davies is the MotM for me.
 

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Australia-UAE at halftime, 0-0.
I take it no one is watching?
I wonder how much of the crowd in Qatar is pro-UAE. Feels like it should be almost a home game for them.
 

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Apparently Southgate and the FA have asked the EPL not to schedule games between the “Big Six” clubs for the match week before the World Cup break:
England manager Gareth Southgate is concerned about the eight-day turnaround between the pause in the domestic season and the first round of games in Qatar, with the Three Lions due to play Iran in Doha on the opening day, Nov. 21.

The Premier League's final fixtures before the tournament take place on Nov. 12-13 and ESPN can reveal that the FA have asked that no games between Liverpool, Manchester City, Chelsea, Manchester United, Arsenal and Tottenham occur on that weekend.
Southgate highlighted the issue when speaking about the difficulties posed by a winter World Cup in March.

"What would help is if we don't get a derby or those sorts of 'big six' games," he said at the time.
https://www.espn.com/soccer/english-premier-league/story/4681740/fa-request-new-big-six-premier-league-schedule-ahead-of-2022-world-cup-sources

I guess they’re worried that, say, a Man City v. Liverpool match is more likely to cause injury or fatigue for Foden/Grealish/Sterling/etc. than Man City v. West Ham? Seems a bit tenuous.
 

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Apparently Southgate and the FA have asked the EPL not to schedule games between the “Big Six” clubs for the match week before the World Cup break:


https://www.espn.com/soccer/english-premier-league/story/4681740/fa-request-new-big-six-premier-league-schedule-ahead-of-2022-world-cup-sources

I guess they’re worried that, say, a Man City v. Liverpool match is more likely to cause injury or fatigue for Foden/Grealish/Sterling/etc. than Man City v. West Ham? Seems a bit tenuous.
It's worth Southgate's time to ask, but given how international all these clubs are; would England really be at that big of a disadvantage? The Portugal manager should be lobbying the FA to give Wolves a cupcake opponent too.
 

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And I'd be fine with that. Give it to Wolves, or anyone who asks. Make that the week with top-vs-bottom matchups. Every team with players bound for Qatar will hold them out or play them as subs, it'll be heavily rotated - and that's fine. Nobody wants to watch a world cup where the players are already exhausted or banged-up coming in.

And if you think the same conversations aren't happening between every Qatar-bound FA and their League, in Spain, Germany, Egypt and the rest, you're kidding yourself.

In a normal world cup year, everyone except the teams contesting the UCL Final has been off for ~4 weeks before the WC starts. Sure, they've been training for much of that time, but nobody's needed to give max effort or run themselves down. Here, they've got barely a week and a half. I'd say it's criminal, but we've already established that laws don't apply to FIFA. Everyone else just has to adjust.
 

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Australia - Peru heading to penalties on FS1.

The Aussies subbed in their backup goalie for PKs with about 2 minutes to go in ET.

Backup keeper wins it doing a marionette impression. Awesome.
 
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What happened to him? V&N?
What I recall is someone made a thread asking recommendations for purchasing a firearm, Syd posted something sarcastic about it, Kenny F'N Powers trolled him, and that was the last we heard from him. I'm sure there is more to the story.
 

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Fuck, Sydney is gone?
That sucks

IN any case,
Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oy Oy Oy

Sydney is my favorite city on this planet.
 

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Apparently Southgate and the FA have asked the EPL not to schedule games between the “Big Six” clubs for the match week before the World Cup break:


https://www.espn.com/soccer/english-premier-league/story/4681740/fa-request-new-big-six-premier-league-schedule-ahead-of-2022-world-cup-sources

I guess they’re worried that, say, a Man City v. Liverpool match is more likely to cause injury or fatigue for Foden/Grealish/Sterling/etc. than Man City v. West Ham? Seems a bit tenuous.
this is the kind of crap that makes non-Sky Six fans just puke.
 

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Australia - Peru heading to penalties on FS1.

The Aussies subbed in their backup goalie for PKs with about 2 minutes to go in ET.

Backup keeper wins it doing a marionette impression. Awesome.
I'll miss Peru for their kits. Love the sash.
 

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Too bad syd no longer posts here.
What happened to him? V&N?
V&N was where his burnout became obvious, but V&N isn’t what caused Syd to leave.

From time to time, longtime members leave. Sometimes they come back. His account is still here, waiting for him.

What I recall is someone made a thread asking recommendations for purchasing a firearm, Syd posted something sarcastic about it, Kenny F'N Powers trolled him, and that was the last we heard from him. I'm sure there is more to the story.
That exchange was near the end of his posting time, but, IMO, it was a symptom rather than a cause.

In any case, congrats to the Socceroos.
 

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I'll miss Peru for their kits. Love the sash.
The Peruvian Sash. I hated it when I was a kid, and I was probably in my 30's when I finally let it go. Scotland in Argentina for WC 1978. I was just a child but I had an excuse.... grown men and grand fathers were taken in by Ally MacLeod and his mindless ethusiasm and relentless optimism.

I was still in primary School, but I remember the Peru-Scotland game like yesterday. It broke my heart. I was caught up in a wave of euphoria. Scotland took the lead after about 15 minutes, all going to plan, what could go wrong? Peru equalized with some quick feet in midfield, quick passing and they sliced the Scotland defence to pieces. Only a blip. Second half... Scotland get a penality! Don Mason stepped up and took a penality yer maw could save. Peru came forward and score from shot lashed in from about 25 yards. Allan rough had barely enough time to swivel his head and stood like a statue... he watched the ball crash into the back of the net. Next up, Peruvian player upended just outside the box, free kick about 20 yards out again. I'll never forget this goal. I was to try immitating many times on the pitch later. Player strolls up, well right off the keepers right post, you're expecting a shot from his left foot....instead, he clips it with the outside of his right. Allan rough helpless again. Peru, you broke this kids heart.

But we'll always have Archie Gemmill's goal against Holland.
 

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One hell of a run by Costa Rica to make the WC. Took 19 out of a possible 21 points to close out qualifying and now won the play-in game.

6 points from the first 7 games and 19 points from the last 7.

Hollywood sports movie type of run.
 

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England getting crushed at home by Hungary, 3-0 and John Stones just got sent off.
 

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England getting crushed at home by Hungary, 3-0 and John Stones just got sent off.
They’ve scored one goal in four UEFA Nations League matches this summer, and that goal was a pen, so zero goals from open play in four matches. Is this a Southgate issue? The talent on that team should be more competitive.
 

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I am not unhappy that the US's toughest group stage opponent appears to be in a pretty deep funk. Hope it continues into November.

World cup cycle number two is about the right time for the wheels to come off with an international manager, if US cycles are anything to go by as a comparison.
 

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They’ve scored one goal in four UEFA Nations League matches this summer, and that goal was a pen, so zero goals from open play in four matches. Is this a Southgate issue? The talent on that team should be more competitive.
I haven't watched any of the games; my guess is they haven't played well, and they are also rotating a bunch of people around and not playing their best XI every game. Also you have to imagine a lot of their players are exhausted and are not necessarily up for this FIFA/UEFA cash grab.

The 1-0 loss to Hungary in Budapest is bad, but not really that bad. Draws with Italy and Germany are fine in a vacuum. Getting crushed 4-0 at home to Hungary? That has got to be a wakeup call; and they have Germany and Italy to close things out so I'm not sure it is going to get much better.
 

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One hell of a run by Costa Rica to make the WC. Took 19 out of a possible 21 points to close out qualifying and now won the play-in game.

6 points from the first 7 games and 19 points from the last 7.

Hollywood sports movie type of run.
They were a little unlucky the first four matchdays, but the quality came out in the end. They righted they ship in the middle part of qualifying and after they drew is Azteca and the U.S.A. lost to Canada pretty convincingly, I think I asked on these boards: Why the hell is everyone talking about Panama?

I am going to miss CONCACAF qualification so much. In many ways, it has been my favorite sporting event. Maybe even more than the World Cup itself. There's just absolutely nothing like it. The margins are just so razor thin. You make these judgments about teams halfway through, but in the end it always turns out so close.

I truly believe that the 0-0 game in Azteca to have been one of the most important results that the U.S.A. has ever had in the history of it's program. But it will mostly be forgotten. I'd like to think we would have beaten New Zealand, but it would have been an absolutely brutal few months waiting for that game with all the weight of the last cycle.
 

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England getting crushed at home by Hungary, 3-0 and John Stones just got sent off.
It's hard to believe that we can keep saying this... but that might be the worst red I've ever seen (worst, as in worst call, ie not a red, not even a yellow, not even a foul).