Okay Bradley was a great outfielder in his hayday, but right now he brought nothing to the table. His exploits in center field, years ago is worthy of accolades but right now he is just another bad decision in Bloom's folder. Making things even worse is the 17 plus million still owed him. Does anyone think another major league team will pick him up? Highly, and I emphasis "highly" unlikely!
No one will pick him up, but it is possible that someone will trade for him, and take on slightly more than the minimum. For instance, someone might take JBJ for min for the remainder of the year, and a small amount of the buyout (as part of the cash or PTBNL), in order to keep the $4mm option for next year. Small risk for an unlikely upside.I think it's around $11M, not $17M, $3M for the remainder of this season and the $8M buyout for next year assuming no one picks him up off waivers (which of course they will not given the money).
The trade deadline was a couple of days ago. It's either pick him up and pay the salary, or wait until the 14th when he clears waivers and is a free agent. Jackie could also accept an assignment to Worcester, but without being on the 40 man roster, there's not much hope of coming back from there.No one will pick him up, but it is possible that someone will trade for him, and take on slightly more than the minimum. For instance, someone might take JBJ for min for the remainder of the year, and a small amount of the buyout (as part of the cash or PTBNL), in order to keep the $4mm option for next year. Small risk for an unlikely upside.
My guess is that JBJ asked for his release, once Bloom told him he wasn't going to play much.
Lessons learned include that we got lucky there. Suzuki is providing one very expensive win over replacement this year.I think Bloom had his chips on Suzuki and never had a backup plan after it fell through. Hopefully a lesson learned.
Did you miss the whole "trade deadline" thing?No one will pick him up, but it is possible that someone will trade for him,
Oh damn I forgot about JDSorry, this move makes no sense. The Sox would rather have Jaylin Davis on the roster than JBJ? He's basically the definition of "fungible".
So is JBJ at this point. We all kinda love him, but the skills are fading. Just cut bait and move on.Sorry, this move makes no sense. The Sox would rather have Jaylin Davis on the roster than JBJ? He's basically the definition of "fungible".
Someone will pick him up after he clearsOkay Bradley was a great outfielder in his hayday, but right now he brought nothing to the table. His exploits in center field, years ago is worthy of accolades but right now he is just another bad decision in Bloom's folder. Making things even worse is the 17 plus million still owed him. Does anyone think another major league team will pick him up? Highly, and I emphasis "highly" unlikely!
Yes, thank you for pointing it out.Did you miss the whole "trade deadline" thing?
Yes, Jaylin can at least theoretically hit LH which is what they need out of a backup OF.Sorry, this move makes no sense. The Sox would rather have Jaylin Davis on the roster than JBJ? He's basically the definition of "fungible".
I wonder if in part this is a little gift to JBJ. Sox knew that he wasn't likely to see the field for them anymore, but rather than bury him on the bench, it will give him a chance to see if another team, that wasn't willing to give up anything of value at the deadline, is interested in giving him a chance as a risk-free flyer. Or, he is cooked and everyone knows it, in which case it's the right move from a baseball standpoint, given that he has been a net negative for the past two seasons.Sorry, this move makes no sense. The Sox would rather have Jaylin Davis on the roster than JBJ? He's basically the definition of "fungible".
Of course he's fungible, he's the last man on the roster. When Refsnyder or even Kike' returns from the IL, Davis is the first one gone.Sorry, this move makes no sense. The Sox would rather have Jaylin Davis on the roster than JBJ? He's basically the definition of "fungible".
Is the bolded true? Everything I saw this year was that he was still great in CF (with obviously fewer chances) and solid in RF (albeit with Duran out there terrifying us to his right).I mean it is no surprise that he was cooked as a hitter. But, he's been worse as a defender as well. Not to say he's a bad defender, but he's not what he once was. It was assumed that he'd be a backup OF for this team which would have been fine, but to put him a position where he'd fail is on Bloom. There's no way at this stage of his career that he should have been a starter.
Short answer...Yes. JBJ is at the end of his career and has little if anything to offer in Boston. I'm guessing there is a team or two out there that can find room for him at the end of the bench to provide some late inning defense as they make a run at the post season.I wonder if in part this is a little gift to JBJ. Sox knew that he wasn't likely to see the field for them anymore, but rather than bury him on the bench, it will give him a chance to see if another team, that wasn't willing to give up anything of value at the deadline, is interested in giving him a chance as a risk-free flyer. Or, he is cooked and everyone knows it, in which case it's the right move from a baseball standpoint, given that he has been a net negative for the past two seasons.
And doing it now means he can make a postseason roster for someone.Short answer...Yes. JBJ is at the end of his career and has little if anything to offer in Boston. I'm guessing there is a team or two out there that can find room for him at the end of the bench to provide some late inning defense as they make a run at the post season.
Seems crazy... but at the time, there was a lot of talk about dealing one of Betts or JBJ to the Mets for DeGroem or Syndegaard and it was actually debated. I was 50/50. I thought JBJ would have more power and I liked the defense more. Really one of my favorites... all those dumb-ass metrics that claimed JBJ was an "average" CF'er will forever make me roll my eyes at defensive stats.Thank you for many great defensive plays and the 2018 postseason, Jackie!
I forgot just how good his 2016 season was. 267/.349/.486, 118 OPS+, 5.8 bWAR. He had a 72 game stretch where he hit .324/.411/.603 (April 30-July 26).
Going by Defensive Runs Saved, in 915.1 IP he was +12. In 696.1 IP this year, he is +5. So he's still pretty good, but not as good as he was last year. His fielding actually dropped from +14 in 2017 all the way to +4 in '18, 0 in '19, and +5 in the shortened '20 season.Is the bolded true? Everything I saw this year was that he was still great in CF (with obviously fewer chances) and solid in RF (albeit with Duran out there terrifying us to his right).
My sense is that Kike's injury really messed this up -- JBJ went from being a potential platoon guy to being an everyday starter.
I wish we'd been able to keep him for defensive purposes a la Gabe Kapler. My sense is that if Story doesn't get hurt, we don't need Yolmer and JBJ stays. Oh well.
Franchy's already in Worcester. I think the choice of losing JBJ instead of Davis had to do with Davis hitting right-handed. They added two LHH (Hosmer, McGuire) and one RHH (Pham) to the roster while deducting an RHH (Vazquez) and a LHH (Cordero). Makes sense for the next deduction to also be a LHH to maintain the balance. When Refsnyder or Kike return, that will bump Davis.Given how weak defensively the starting outfield is, and how the only true backup outfielder going forward will be Refsnyder, I'm a little surprised that JBJ's defense didn't keep him on the roster over Franchy's "potential."
Unless Davis stays on the roster when Refsnyder returns and Franchy is let go at that point.
Oh, must have missed the Franchy news! That does make more sense.Franchy's already in Worcester. I think the choice of losing JBJ instead of Davis had to do with Davis hitting right-handed. They added two LHH (Hosmer, McGuire) and one RHH (Pham) to the roster while deducting an RHH (Vazquez) and a LHH (Cordero). Makes sense for the next deduction to also be a LHH to maintain the balance. When Refsnyder or Kike return, that will bump Davis.
They have a very jammed 26 and 40 man roster, so I don’t see it. They just got Bader for this same role.Countdown JBJ signing with the Yankees as a late inning defensive replacement in 3....2....
Thanks for this. Just plain awesome. Wow!I just wanted to spend a couple minutes watching him do what he did. You should too.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SVXoiNKMgs
Maybe until Bader is healthy.Countdown JBJ signing with the Yankees as a late inning defensive replacement in 3....2....
My sentiments exactly. Beloved as a human. Hope he gets a chance elsewhere.This is sad news. Time marches on, though. JBJ has been my favorite guy on the Sox since he came up, with the exception of the year he was away. The man is a class act, through and through. That outfield in 2018 was just sick.
Awesome.Some day, on my deathbed, I will think of what baseball and the Boston Red Sox meant to me. This is what I'll be picturing:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYTjCc7Uw_c
Thanks for posting those highlights. I was a boy when Yaz, Lynn, and Evans were Sox outfielders, and I loved watching them. As good as they all were in their own ways, Bradley exuded a kind of physical grace and confidence as an outfielder that was unparalleled. I was always confident he was going to get to it, and he just looked like a guy who always had it measured, someone who knew with the crack of the bat that "I got this." He also carried himself like a good guy. I always wished he could hit more (not just the wild streaks), but the Sox were lucky to have him.I just wanted to spend a couple minutes watching him do what he did. You should too.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SVXoiNKMgs
There's no "shedding" the salary. All of his money is on the books unless someone claims him and his contract on waivers, which apparently did not happen. Sox aren't saving a dime on his deal now. The only benefit of DFA/release now is clearing his roster spot for someone who hopefully can be more productive.Does shedding JBJ’s salary get the Sox under the tax threshold? (Assuming that once he’s off the 40-man what they are paying him no longer counts towards the tax.)
I think this is widely known, but don’t believe I saw it mentioned upthread - MLB got rid of the waiver trade deadline a few years ago, so there is no opportunity for the Sox to pick up anyone in a JBJ trade.
Don't forget the $16 million we paid him!I just hope Alex Binelas turns into something, because otherwise two years of Renfroe for four months of JBJ is a contender for the worst Sox trade of the past decade. Hunter's 120 wRC+ would look really good in this lineup right now, and they didn't even get any savings aginst the luxury tax threshold.
Probably a slight favor to JBJ by giving him more time to catch on with a team during the playoff eligibility period, since he was going to be gone when either Ref or Kike was back anyway.Sorry, this move makes no sense. The Sox would rather have Jaylin Davis on the roster than JBJ? He's basically the definition of "fungible".
Should he have seen Renfroe having a breakout season at age 30 coming? We also won't know if he outthought himself or not for at least several years.Don't forget the $16 million we paid him!
This deal is Exhibit A for those that think that Bloom has an unfortunate tendency to outthink himself.
Renfroe's OPS+ of 123 is a career best but he was 112 last year, I wouldn't call it a breakout season.Should he have seen Renfroe having a breakout season at age 30 coming? We also won't know if he outthought himself or not for at least several years.
By rWAR, Jackie Bradley, Jr. was the ninth most accomplished first-round pick in Boston Red Sox history. His 17.3 career rWAR trails only Clemens (duh), Rice, Garciaparra, Hurst, Ellsbury, Vaughn, Nixon and Sele, and is a tic ahead of Buchholz.As much as we harped on his offense over the years, I was looking at his fangraphs page yesterday and if you combine 2015-2020 he was overall a slightly above average hitter, and overall one of the best center fielders in baseball.
More like an excellent fielder and average hitter. Mike Trout is a tremendous ball player. Rafael Devers is, perhaps, a tremendous ball player. JBJ was not.By rWAR, Jackie Bradley, Jr. was the ninth most accomplished first-round pick in Boston Red Sox history. His 17.3 career rWAR trails only Clemens (duh), Rice, Garciaparra, Hurst, Ellsbury, Vaughn, Nixon and Sele, and is a tic ahead of Buchholz.
He was a tremendous ballplayer.