Week 12 Patriots at Dolphins

Ed Hillel

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This is actually a good point to judge your coach. Will this team quit, or come out competitively here?
 

Arroyoyo

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Who is a realistic hire next year if we fire Mayo? Is anyone else on the Vrabel train?

And do you fire AVP or consider Maye’s quick development a giant +1 for AVP? Given how Maye has looked, is it worth installing a new offense with a new head coach?
 

Steve Dillard

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if only I could put my finger on one clear thing that changed? hmmm
Trading Judon to Atlanta?

I kid, but they had no depth, and once Judon/Bentley/Barmore left, the talent level really dropped
 

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Zooming out, this feels like one of those “two steps back” games you get when you are rebuilding. Kind of like that awful first game against the Jets where you play so badly on so many levels it just feels like the sky is falling.

I still maintain Tua sucks. McDaniel’s game plan and the talent are carrying him.
I saw Miami play without Tua. He and MM are the two most important people in the Miami organization. The concussion concerns can't be dismissed, but the talent deniers at this point are a bit strange to me.
 

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I saw Miami play without Tua. He and MM are the two most important people in the Miami organization. The concussion concerns can't be dismissed, but the talent deniers at this point are a bit strange to me.
He's very good at very particular things.... so they built the offense around it. He's good, but he wouldn't be in other places. One of the keys for all QBs... need to be good AND have a system built to your strenghts/weaknesses
 

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He's very good at very particular things.... so they built the offense around it. He's good, but he wouldn't be in other places. One of the keys for all QBs... need to be good AND have a system built to your strenghts/weaknesses
This is so true with the prime example being in Foxboro for 20 years
 

Van Everyman

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I enjoy your posting, but some of your takes are insane. Like you were completely a Mac sympathizer, yet think Tua sucks? I don't get it.
I just think Tua is a system quarterback, albeit in a very good system. He makes multiple boneheaded decisions in just about every game and can’t make multiple reads. He would be back to being the washout he was under Flores on pretty much any other team.

As for Mac, I just think part of him cratering was Bill’s fault. We probably won’t ever see eye to eye on that but that’s ok.
 

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He's very good at very particular things.... so they built the offense around it. He's good, but he wouldn't be in other places. One of the keys for all QBs... need to be good AND have a system built to your strenghts/weaknesses
This is true for literally every QB. Penalizing Tua for good coaching is weird.

The offense was literally one of the worst offenses in football while Tua was gone. Tua and McDaniel together make incredibly effective offensive love.
 

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Some huge portions of these game threads feel like Groundhog Day. Not a knock on people posting here; it’s because it’s so much of the same shit over and over again each week.
 

Arroyoyo

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I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a RB stick to the assigned hole when another hole is WIDE OPEN as much as Rham. Zero vision on the field.

There’s a sophomoric joke in there somewhere.
 

Smiling Joe Hesketh

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This is true for literally every QB. Penalizing Tua for good coaching is weird.

The offense was literally one of the worst offenses in football while Tua was gone. Tua and McDaniel together make incredibly effective offensive love.
And without Tua McDaniel makes baffling decisions. Thompson throwing 45 times at Buffalo in a playoff game? Madness.