Week 17 NFL Game Thread - What day of the week is it?

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Lol Bears, crappy snap, QB still probably should catch it. Recovers but blocking was crap so a guy hits him... And he comes up limping.

Such a good encapsulation of their season
 

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Yeah, I don't get how the Bears are so bad. I mean ever since that Hail Mary - they just fell apart.

Edit - I guess it all their offensive line.
 

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It is either the Bears or the Pats. I don't know which one is the worst. Both give up some many pressures and commit so many penalties.
Bears have arguably better tackles, but Onwenu is probably the best individual lineman on either team. I think CHI slightly better with Andrews out, but if Strange is back to where he was before the injury that probably puts NE over the top
 

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I am shocked Williams went that many passes without an interception.
He's surprisingly conservative, he is willing to throw it away, or put it where only his guy has a chance.. Also takes sacks over throwing it up. Probably needs to throw a few more 60/40 balls really.
 

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Seattle's defensive strategy at the end seemed to be ... "Rush everyone. They can't block and he won't know what to do with the ball."
 

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Seattle's defensive strategy at the end seemed to be ... "Rush everyone. They can't block and he won't know what to do with the ball."
Also they won't run short easy reads....so many plays where almost all routes are deep. Basically every good pass play was.. "Caleb runs away from multiple defenders and throws 10-15 yards downfield
 

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He's surprisingly conservative, he is willing to throw it away, or put it where only his guy has a chance.. Also takes sacks over throwing it up. Probably needs to throw a few more 60/40 balls really.
Exactly my thought whenever his INT-less streak is flashed on the screen every game. If you have those receivers, you avoid turnovers, and you score 3 points through 59 minutes…well maybe the risk/reward calculus is out of whack.
 

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Exactly my thought whenever his INT-less streak is flashed on the screen every game. If you have those receivers, you avoid turnovers, and you score 3 points through 59 minutes…well maybe the risk/reward calculus is out of whack.
Nooo. It's what makes him an amazing rookie QB!

Are people finally coming around?
 

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3 OCs, 2 HCs, and a god awful o-line.

what rookie is looking amazing given those 3 above?
And it's pretty clear from reports out of Chicago that Eberflus and Waldron heavily emphasized not making mistakes and playing from the pocket (because they are bad coaches).

Williams has not been as great as Daniels, but he's still having a pretty decent rookie year all things considered, and he shows a couple times every game at least why he was a top pick, he makes throws few can. Honestly.... if he were on the Patriots nobody wouldn't blink and would look at him like we do Maye. Williams is a victim of pre-season hype, mostly based on bad evaluation of the talent and coaching around him. (as always, people think WRs make a good offense, when the line is far more important).
 

Kenny F'ing Powers

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Hey. I understand all the stuff surrounding the team. You're not telling me things I dont know.

I'm going out on a limb. Hes the 1st overall pick, has plenty of excuses/reasons for any of his poor performances, and has most of the media fawning over him. I'm not being a contrarian for the fun of it. I just think there's some serious red flags that he's shown throughout the season, and he hasn't really progressed on them.

He has seven (7!?) games with under 175 yards passing this season. Just for comparison, Drake Maye - the other rookie with a shitty head coach, terrible line, and way way worse skill players - has zero. Williams has managed this despite having the 4th most passing attempts in the league.

For a guy that has a cannon for an arm and amazing WR talent, why is he 3rd worst amongst qualified QBs in yards per attempt? Bryce Young, Cooper Rush, Mac Jones...and Caleb Williams?

Again, I understand all the excuses. And I understand he's a highly touted, 1st overall rookie QB. But, to me, the places hes shown deficiencies are places that are really hard to fix. This isn't "he has bad footwork" stuff. This is, "can he process the game?" stuff.
 

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Baffling third and fourth down calls by Cincy and they turn it over on downs.