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Farewell to my '19-20 LP favorite, the Portland Trailblazers. Watching Dame, CJ, Melo, Trent and Whieside grind through the winter and then get a shot at the playoffs was so entertaining. I hope they run it back with Melo.
 

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Before this game I thought Luka needed an efficient 40 point triple double to force a game 7. He nearly did that and they might lose by 20. Just got no help from anyone else.
 

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And now he's ejected. And he should be, that was a cheap shot, on top of all the other cheap shots.
Morris should sit the first two games of the next series. That was definitely worse than the nut-kick that earned Draymond Green a one-game suspension during the WCF a few years ago, and like that incident, this one didn’t happen out of the blue.
 

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Murray is an odd player. It seems like every time I check he's scoring 40+, but has averaged just 18-19 ppg over the last couple years.

Although it may just be me - he didn't hit 40 once during the regular season, though he's done it twice this series (possibly on his way to a 3rd tonight).
 

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This has gotta be some of the best shot-making ever between opposing guards in the playoffs.

Don’t remember much of Jordan vs. Clyde. I’m sure Clyde wishes he didn’t either.
 
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This series is the only series outside the Celtics games that I watched every minute of. It really can't get better than this.
 

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I’d kill for a live mic on Murray. Straight fire in that fourth quarter.
 

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Murray is so smooth. He’s two summers in the gym away from being an easy 25 every night. Needs to build up strength and endurance, but the ability is there.
 

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Morris should sit the first two games of the next series. That was definitely worse than the nut-kick that earned Draymond Green a one-game suspension during the WCF a few years ago, and like that incident, this one didn’t happen out of the blue.
For the record, the nut-kick did not earn him a suspension during the WCF. They hosed OKC by allowing him to play after the nut-kick, then later hosed GS in the Finals by suspending him for lightly caressing LeBron’s balls, which LeBron had explicitly requested him to do by tea-bagging him while he was lying on the floor. The latter act was basically a tender moment between two consenting adults — until LeBron ran crying to Kiki Vandeweghe and begging for Draymond’s suspension.

The King got his way, of course, and Steven Adams and OKC got the shaft — doubly so when the outcomes of the WCF and Finals allowed KD to bolt to the Bay.
 

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Murray is so smooth. He’s two summers in the gym away from being an easy 25 every night. Needs to build up strength and endurance, but the ability is there.
Not that he can’t get stronger, but absorbs contact very well now. He may be behind Kyrie as the silkiest finisher in the league right now. That 360 lay up from last game was something else.
 

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For the record, the nut-kick did not earn him a suspension during the WCF. They hosed OKC by allowing him to play after the nut-kick, then later hosed GS in the Finals by suspending him for lightly caressing LeBron’s balls, which LeBron had explicitly requested him to do by tea-bagging him while he was lying on the floor. The latter act was basically a tender moment between two consenting adults — until LeBron ran crying to Kiki Vandeweghe and begging for Draymond’s suspension.

The King got his way, of course, and Steven Adams and OKC got the shaft — doubly so when the outcomes of the WCF and Finals allowed KD to bolt to the Bay.
How would a different outcome have led KD to not bolt to the Bay?
 

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How would a different outcome have led KD to not bolt to the Bay?
Hard to say ... it’s generally assumed he would have stayed in OKC had they made the finals, and not joined GS had they won their second straight finals after going 73-9. But who knows for sure. KD is a complicated dude.

Anyway, sorry for the hijack. Mitchell v Murray is incredible.
 

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One thing about Denver vs Utah is that both teams, due to some key injuries, are forced to play some all O/no D guys in Clarkson and Porter Jr. respectively, and those guys are getting killed on the defensive end by Murray/Mitchell on switches. Next round against the Clippers, it will not be as easy to find such favorable matches.
 

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One thing about Denver vs Utah is that both teams, due to some key injuries, are forced to play some all O/no D guys in Clarkson and Porter Jr. respectively, and those guys are getting killed on the defensive end by Murray/Mitchell on switches. Next round against the Clippers, it will not be as easy to find such favorable matches.
It will be tougher but Dallas showed you can feast on Jackson and even Shamet. The Clippers will need Beverley next round. And this is where the Clippers will face a test with Zubac and Harrell having to deal with an elite big in either Jokic or Gobert.

Before the bubble I thought that the Clippers would come out of the West and still do. This may be a perception thing and therefore entirely incorrect - they really seem unfocused in their play at present. I can't see a Denver or Jazz team knocking them off but the Lakers or even the Rockets have a shot.
 

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It will be tougher but Dallas showed you can feast on Jackson and even Shamet. The Clippers will need Beverley next round. And this is where the Clippers will face a test with Zubac and Harrell having to deal with an elite big in either Jokic or Gobert.

Before the bubble I thought that the Clippers would come out of the West and still do. This may be a perception thing and therefore entirely incorrect - they really seem unfocused in their play at present. I can't see a Denver or Jazz team knocking them off but the Lakers or even the Rockets have a shot.
I'd say it's more than a "shot". The clipps have yet to put together 4 straight quarters. I dont see them having much of a chance if, big if, they can even get to a matchup vs Lebron and AD
 

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I remember when we all thought the 2016 nba draft was going to suck, particularly the lottery.

Simmons, Ingram, Brown, Murray, Sabonis in the top 11 have to match up pretty well with most other classes, plus Brogdon Siakam and Levert later.
 

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Murray is an odd player. It seems like every time I check he's scoring 40+, but has averaged just 18-19 ppg over the last couple years.

Although it may just be me - he didn't hit 40 once during the regular season, though he's done it twice this series (possibly on his way to a 3rd tonight).
As incredible of a back and forth we are seeing between Murray and Mitchell we have to keep in mind that these games are being played in a different environment than any others.

Tunnel vision and shooting backgrounds do matter......for some players they make for extreme results than what we’ve seen from that player in the past.
 

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Zach Lowe giving this some love as the craziest first round series since Celtics vs Bulls in 2009.


As incredible of a back and forth we are seeing between Murray and Mitchell we have to keep in mind that these games are being played in a different environment than any others.

Tunnel vision and shooting backgrounds do matter......for some players they make for extreme results than what we’ve seen from that player in the past.
That certainly seems to be the case, as the shooting numbers in the bubble indicate, but it’s fun to watch this historic shot-making.

Jordan and AI were the only guys to post multiple 50 point games in a playoff series, and now we have two guys doing it against each other. My math from last night checks out this morning- they're both at 73 TS%, with Murray at 34 PPG and Mitchell at 38.7. Murray has only played 4 more minutes. Not only do they have the same True Shooting, but they also have the exact same 3 Point Attempt rate (3PAr = .415). Unsurprisingly, Murray's taking a lot more midrange jumpers and Mitchell is getting to the rack and the line more, but the latter is pretty extreme- he's 53 for 56, while Murray's 21/23. Both are finishing extremely well (DM = 77.4% from inside 3 feet, JM = 72%; for reference, good guards are typically in the low 60s).

I do prefer to watch a well-oiled defensive machine that smothers everything in its path and a team that moves the ball crisply on offense (and not just because I’m a Celtics fan!), but it’s fun to get swept up in the mano-a-mano hero ball when guys are just unconscious like these two have been.
 

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Brook Lopez belongs on the NBA's All-Whining team, along with Kyle Lowry, among others. Nick Nurse, of course, is the head coach.