Wes Welker suspended 4 games

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When I see something like this, I get caught between two thoughts: 1) "Why would a guy that amped up and intense need amphetamines?" and 2) "Oh."
 

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What a team guy, taking amphetamines to get caught and alleviate the roster crunch as he recovers from the concussion.
 

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The vast majority of NFL fans, as well as the major media sites, will no doubt now surmise he became addicted to them while on the Patriots. Fed to him, of course, against his will by the evil Belichick.
 

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I wonder how useful amphetamines are for a sport like football.  I used to take ephedra when boxing, and whatever energy boost I got was canceled out by the loss of wind from having my resting heart rate at 100 bpm. 
 

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He's lucky he wasn't also caught beating his wife.  He would have got 2 more games added.
 

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Reverend said:
When I see something like this, I get caught between two thoughts: 1) "Why would a guy that amped up and intense need amphetamines?" and 2) "Oh."
Help me out here - why does Welker need to get amped up for games/practices BEFORE the regular season?
 

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So I'm not the only one currently terrified over this. Good to know....
Yeah I'm a little terrified. But... he'd have known a while ago and BB would not have traded Mallet?... Anyways enough speculation - I'm sure he'll be fine...
 

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And once again, Belichick looks correct in retrospect...
 
Well, once Welker spent part of last year concussed and injured and started heading in the same direction this year, BB was proven right.  This is just gilding that particular lily.
 

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Norm Siebern said:
The vast majority of NFL fans, as well as the major media sites, will no doubt now surmise he became addicted to them while on the Patriots. Fed to him, of course, against his will by the evil Belichick.
Nah, TB fed him the tainted molly.
 

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nattysez said:
 
Well, once Welker spent part of last year concussed and injured and started heading in the same direction this year, BB was proven right.  This is just gilding that particular lily.
 
Agreed----though there's a set of writers and fans who will find this far more persuasive than I personally do, too.
 

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Nah, TB fed him the tainted molly.
Genuinely asking this since I have no experience - is there really any such thing as 'tainted' molly? Isn't it usually a cocktail of a bunch of chemicals and often has amphetamines? I can't imagine a pro athlete taking molly and thinking they won't flag positive for something banned.
 

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Molly is pure MDMA. 
 
Getting MDMA cut with anything else makes it the 90s ecstasy people stupidly thought made you get holes in your brain.
 

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Molly is pure MDMA. 
 
Getting MDMA cut with anything else makes it the 90s ecstasy people stupidly thought made you get holes in your brain.
Right, but t doesn't need to be cut to register as an amphetamine in a drug test because it IS a frickin' amphetamine. Hell, that's what the "A" in MDMA stands for.

I can't believe the press still hasn't figured out how to cover this.
 

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How'd he test positive for alcohol?

Somebody diluted his old fashioned with liquor.
 

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mikeford said:
If its cut with amphetamines, it's not molly.
 
 
 
also: POPPED A MOLLY, IM SUSPENDED, WOO
 
 
mikeford said:
Molly is pure MDMA. 
 
Getting MDMA cut with anything else makes it the 90s ecstasy people stupidly thought made you get holes in your brain.
 
Ecstacy meant (in theory) pure MDMA in the 90s.  Like X, people step on stuff all the time and sell it as "molly".  It's marketing, nothing more.
 

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Right, but t doesn't need to be cut to register as an amphetamine in a drug test because it IS a frickin' amphetamine. Hell, that's what the "A" in MDMA stands for.
 
This is true, but it's like saying "isopropanol is an alcohol". Amphetamine is a pretty broad class of compounds.
 
The devil is in the details. Different affinities for different receptors, although there's plenty of overlap. Pseudoephedrine is also an amphetamine, yet few have a problem with it as a cold medicine. Typically when people are describing "amphetamines" they really just mean the compound known as amphetamine, or one of the closely related analogs like methamphetamine.
 

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Right, but t doesn't need to be cut to register as an amphetamine in a drug test because it IS a frickin' amphetamine. Hell, that's what the "A" in MDMA stands for.

I can't believe the press still hasn't figured out how to cover this.
 
True, but testing positive for 'pure' MDMA apparently triggers a different set of punishments (you get put in the substance abuse program) than testing for other amphetamines - at least, that's what was reported during the Scandrick news, though obviously that could be the press not understanding that MDMA is an amphetamine.
 

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SumnerH said:
 
 
 
Ecstacy meant (in theory) pure MDMA in the 90s.  Like X, people step on stuff all the time and sell it as "molly".  It's marketing, nothing more.
Pretty much this.
Most street tablets are actually pretty high in MDMA content, seeing as it was a) freaking cheap to make, and b) freaking easy to measure rough purity levels in the late 90s though the present. The coloring of the tablets/names were used as marketing ploys; same reason why people prefer buying Tylenol to acetaminophen.
Differential effects of the drug usually referred to the fact that effects vary from person to person and from context to context.
 
 
singaporesoxfan said:
 
True, but testing positive for 'pure' MDMA apparently triggers a different set of punishments (you get put in the substance abuse program) than testing for other amphetamines - at least, that's what was reported during the Scandrick news, though obviously that could be the press not understanding that MDMA is an amphetamine.
 
MDMA is of the amphetamine class, but it's not an alpha-methylphenethylamine (i.e. what we often call an amphetamine or methamphetamine if its attached to an N-methyl group).
 
Drug tests differ MDMA from other amphetamine class substances, ditto for pseudoephedrine. The metabolites are completely different and MDMA actually shows up in the urine itself. Taking either won't give you a false positive for methylphenethylamine. In any case, I'd be surprised if the evidence was solely from drug tests. Pretty dumb on Welker's part if so.
 
Anyways, back to Welker. I'm surprised no one mentioned the fact that he took amphetamines because of difficulties concentrating during the game.
I figure the problem was that he obtained the pills illegally, but had a prescription for it. When he got the prescription from his doctor, he took his eyes off the script and let it bounce around at the medical office. Also...
 
Reverend said:
"Why would a guy that amped up and intense need amphetamines?"
 
Such behavior indicates a guy that needs amphetamines.

 
 

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With Sanders and DT on the outside, JT on the seam, and Tamme playing the slot role, I assume this makes it easier for the Broncos to cut ties with Wes before he goes out like Dennis "Cap" Quaid.
 

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SumnerH said:
Ecstacy meant (in theory) pure MDMA in the 90s.  Like X, people step on stuff all the time and sell it as "molly".  It's marketing, nothing more.
Got that WMD right'chere!
 

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mikeford said:
Molly is pure MDMA. 
 
Getting MDMA cut with anything else makes it the 90s ecstasy people stupidly thought made you get holes in your brain.
 
 
EricFeczko said:
Pretty much this.
Most street tablets are actually pretty high in MDMA content, seeing as it was a) freaking cheap to make, and b) freaking easy to measure rough purity levels in the late 90s though the present. The coloring of the tablets/names were used as marketing ploys; same reason why people prefer buying Tylenol to acetaminophen.
Differential effects of the drug usually referred to the fact that effects vary from person to person and from context to context.

 
 
The DEA says you're both wrong. Of the "Molly" seized in NY state by the DEA only 13% contained any MDMA at all usually cut with other Amphetemines or Ritalin.
41% was 4-MEC and 20% methylone.
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887324755104579073524185820910
 
Edit- I guess mikeford was saying it is hypothetically supposed to be pure MDMA so he's not wrong, it just isn't really what it is claimed to be in most cases.