When will Jakobi Meyers catch a touchdown pass?

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He has now played 36 NFL games and caught 126 passes without a touchdown. He has, however:
  • Thrown 2 TD passes (both last season)
  • Caught a pair of 2-point conversions (one last year, one this year against Dallas)
  • Caught a TD pass against Dallas that was called back because of a penalty (holding by an offensive lineman)
  • This week Mac threw to him at the goal line, but he could not make a play on the ball due to defensive pass interference (which was called)
 

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He should consider suing at this point. ;)

I am going to say in 2 weeks against the Panthers. I think these narratives develop a momentum that will filter through to Josh McD. Players are going to be talking about it, and McD is going to want to get it done (particularly for a guy who just seems to do what he is asked as hard as he can every time). I'm not sure there will be the wiggle room to make it happen next week, so I'm saying Panthers.
 

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Hopefully he gets all the attention from opposing defenses in the red zone thinking the Pats will try to force it to him, and therefore leaving other receivers more open.
 

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I hope it's soon. He was SO happy catching that TD last week, only to have it called back. It will feel great for him and the rest of the team when he finally gets his TD - we all know they are all WELL aware of this.

As an aside, when Taylor scored his first TD yesterday (the first of his career), Damien Harris came SPRINTING off the sideline like he was shot out of a cannon into the end zone and celebrated with Taylor. Seemed so genuinely happy for JJ. I can't imagine the team's reaction when Meyers gets his first.
 

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I just think it is great how close he keeps coming without actually doing it. He's thrown TD passes, he's scored conversions, he's been denied by penalities on both sides of that ball. What else could possible go wrong?
 

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I want him to recover a fumble in the end zone for his first TD.
 

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I do worry that Mac will force a ball that will end up a goal line interception. I'd love for it to happen the way it did against Dallas (minus the holding call) where it's not right down on the line and everyone "knows" where the ball is going.
 

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I just think it is great how close he keeps coming without actually doing it. He's thrown TD passes, he's scored conversions, he's been denied by penalities on both sides of that ball. What else could possible go wrong?
He catches it, but gets knocked unconscious by a headhunting defender, he is carried off on a stretcher.
 

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I want him to throw a touchdown pass to himself. Like that Marcus Marriota play (against KC, IIRC) where he threw it off a defender, caught it on the deflection and ran it in. That's the only way for this streak to end.
 

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I hope he never does - he's more famous now than he ever would be if he had, like, 2 TD receptions. He could parlay this into a Bob Uecker-like post-career.
 

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I really thought they might go wildcat late in the game on the 1 yard line, with him taking the snap.
 

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I want him to throw a touchdown pass to himself. Like that Marcus Marriota play (against KC, IIRC) where he threw it off a defender, caught it on the deflection and ran it in. That's the only way for this streak to end.
That would be excellent.

I hope it's soon. He was SO happy catching that TD last week, only to have it called back. It will feel great for him and the rest of the team when he finally gets his TD - we all know they are all WELL aware of this.

As an aside, when Taylor scored his first TD yesterday (the first of his career), Damien Harris came SPRINTING off the sideline like he was shot out of a cannon into the end zone and celebrated with Taylor. Seemed so genuinely happy for JJ. I can't imagine the team's reaction when Meyers gets his first.
Agree with all of this. Harris' reaction was awesome. The narrative on Meyers not having a TD is already in full force and his teammates and McDaniels are well aware of it.
 

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Meyers would be a really nice Wildcat option. Good runner, but could also be his own RPO pass option player. Starts by bolting to his right, only to pull up and loft a nice pass over an unsuspecting defense's head.
 

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I think Meyers is in that weird spot where he does a lot of things well and has great hands and the ability to get open, but he's not fast enough to really score a TD from deep and not strong/agile enough to get open near the endzone or post someone up for a TD catch. Looking at his strengths as a player it kinda makes perfect sense why he'd be the type of guy who'd produce between the 20's and struggle as the field shortens.
 

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I think Meyers is in that weird spot where he does a lot of things well and has great hands and the ability to get open, but he's not fast enough to really score a TD from deep and not strong/agile enough to get open near the endzone or post someone up for a TD catch. Looking at his strengths as a player it kinda makes perfect sense why he'd be the type of guy who'd produce between the 20's and struggle as the field shortens.
This is true to an extent, but not nearly to the extent that anyone would expect him to catch 126 passes without a TD. I don't think a Meyers-type receiver is somehow unique in the NFL - he's a decent-sized possession receiver who doesn't have the speed or Edelman/Welker type of quickness to be more of a playmaker from the slot. But players like that have been in the NFL for years , and before Meyers the high for catches without a TD was something like 50. If there's anything in his game that sets him apart, it is his ability to pass the ball - quite a difference in how the ball looks coming out of Meyers's hand vs. Bourne's.

As to not able to get open in the end zone: the Patriots do look to him there: he has caught 2 goal line passes for 2-point convervions, which aren't inherently easier to score on than a regular goal line defense. And he would have had his red-zone TD pass yesterday had he not been interfered with. (And then there is his wide open drop of a deep pass against Houston, which maybe he could have run in had he caught it).

All of which is to say, I do agree that in a high-powered passing offense, Meyers is not generally the type of guy catching TD passes from anywhere on the field - but he's still getting the occasional one. Going 126 catches and counting without one is an interesting fluke.
 

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This is true to an extent, but not nearly to the extent that anyone would expect him to catch 126 passes without a TD. I don't think a Meyers-type receiver is somehow unique in the NFL - he's a decent-sized possession receiver who doesn't have the speed or Edelman/Welker type of quickness to be more of a playmaker from the slot. But players like that have been in the NFL for years , and before Meyers the high for catches without a TD was something like 50. If there's anything in his game that sets him apart, it is his ability to pass the ball - quite a difference in how the ball looks coming out of Meyers's hand vs. Bourne's.

As to not able to get open in the end zone: the Patriots do look to him there: he has caught 2 goal line passes for 2-point convervions, which aren't inherently easier to score on than a regular goal line defense. And he would have had his red-zone TD pass yesterday had he not been interfered with. (And then there is his wide open drop of a deep pass against Houston, which maybe he could have run in had he caught it).

All of which is to say, I do agree that in a high-powered passing offense, Meyers is not generally the type of guy catching TD passes from anywhere on the field - but he's still getting the occasional one. Going 126 catches and counting without one is an interesting fluke.
I'm not saying that his profile as a player makes this TD-less streak not insane, the argument is just that he's never going to be the kind of guy that catches many TDs in any offense. And I don't think he's a guy that a lot of teams have, the "not really shifty slot receiver who isn't all that strong either" isn't really a staple of most teams. Possession receivers are usually a lot beefier than Meyers.
 

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If it's anyone other than Belichick....you gotta believe the coach would gameplan for him to get off the shneid
 

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If it's anyone other than Belichick....you gotta believe the coach would gameplan for him to get off the shneid
Maybe if they are up big vs anyone but the Jets. As mentioned in game ball thread, other coaches would have given Mack at least one 1 yard TD pass to us his numbers. We can admit it Brady Gronk padded their stats a bit in those situations. My memory is Shula, Marino pioneered the one yard stat padding TD pass.
 

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Maybe if they are up big vs anyone but the Jets. As mentioned in game ball thread, other coaches would have given Mack at least one 1 yard TD pass to us his numbers. We can admit it Brady Gronk padded their stats a bit in those situations. My memory is Shula, Marino pioneered the one yard stat padding TD pass.
Brady threw less <5 yard TD passes than any other QB in football in the past 15 years relative to how many points his teams have scored. He throws at the goal line all the time now in Tampa, which is why he'll have back to back 40+ TD seasons, but that was a rarity in NE (or at least a lot rarer than you'd expect it to be).
 

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I am personally hoping that Meyers goes the whole year without catching one, but does throw another TD pass, run one in for a TD on a reverse, and catch 2 more 2-point conversions.
 

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This is true to an extent, but not nearly to the extent that anyone would expect him to catch 126 passes without a TD. I don't think a Meyers-type receiver is somehow unique in the NFL - he's a decent-sized possession receiver who doesn't have the speed or Edelman/Welker type of quickness to be more of a playmaker from the slot. But players like that have been in the NFL for years , and before Meyers the high for catches without a TD was something like 50. If there's anything in his game that sets him apart, it is his ability to pass the ball - quite a difference in how the ball looks coming out of Meyers's hand vs. Bourne's.

As to not able to get open in the end zone: the Patriots do look to him there: he has caught 2 goal line passes for 2-point convervions, which aren't inherently easier to score on than a regular goal line defense. And he would have had his red-zone TD pass yesterday had he not been interfered with. (And then there is his wide open drop of a deep pass against Houston, which maybe he could have run in had he caught it).

All of which is to say, I do agree that in a high-powered passing offense, Meyers is not generally the type of guy catching TD passes from anywhere on the field - but he's still getting the occasional one. Going 126 catches and counting without one is an interesting fluke.
Agree with this - Edelman, Troy Brown, Welker and Amendola didn’t score a ton of TDs either relative to their catches… but they still scored some, even from far out (Welker 99 yards vs Miami, Edelman 75 yards vs Miami, Brown 81 yards vs Miami, etc). Hey those were all against Miami, in Miami. How come we suck there so much?
 

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Jakobi update:

He has now played 37 NFL games and caught 129 passes without a touchdown. He has, however:
  • Thrown 2 TD passes (both last season)
  • Caught three 2-point conversions (one last year, two this year against Cowboys and Chargers)
  • Caught a TD pass against Dallas that was called back because of a penalty (holding by an offensive lineman)
So, still no TDs, but he does now have 6 points. During his 2 years plus in the NFL, the Pats have scored 5 2-point conversions: a James White run, a Tom Brady pass to Edelman, and three passes to Meyers (1 from Cam last year and 2 from Mac this year).
 

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Get him on a destroyer taking online classes from Rutgers this off-season and we basically have it all.
I think "all" would require him to exploit NCAA rules to play lacrosse for Rutgers in the spring while taking those classes.
 

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Only one catch for Jakobi, who is now up to 131 catches without a TD.

We learned yesterday that he was the team's backup PR, at least among game-day active players. It would have been awseom for him to break one, though he doesn't seem like the kind of player who does that.
 

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Very happy for elevated practice-squadder Wilkerson - he got his first and second career NFL TDs today.

Also happy that Myers snagged his 2nd TD in between the two.
 

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Wilkerson: 4 games, 8 targets, 4 receptions, 2 TDs.

Meyers: 45 games, 240 targets, 164 receptions, 2 TDs.

Meyers, however, remains ahead in TD passes (2 to 0) and 2 point conversion receptions (3-0).