Who will be the next manager?

Who SHOULD be next manager of the Red Sox?

  • Ron Roenicke

    Votes: 62 18.6%
  • Carlos Febles

    Votes: 14 4.2%
  • Dustin Pedroia

    Votes: 12 3.6%
  • Jason Varitek

    Votes: 62 18.6%
  • Billy McMillon

    Votes: 19 5.7%
  • Brad Ausmus

    Votes: 19 5.7%
  • Gene Lamont

    Votes: 5 1.5%
  • Tony Pena

    Votes: 13 3.9%
  • Bam Bam Meulens

    Votes: 51 15.3%
  • Someone Else

    Votes: 76 22.8%

  • Total voters
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A key component of any hire is going to be ability/willingness to implement Chaim Bloom's analytic strategy, right?

EDIT: Does this maybe work out well for Bloom? Not that I didn't like Cora (who I believe was analytic-friendly), but he gets to hire his guy without firing the incumbent.
 
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A key component of any hire is going to be ability/willingness to implement Chaim Bloom's analytic strategy, right?

EDIT: Does this maybe work out well for Bloom? Not that I didn't like Cora (who I believe was analytic-friendly), but he gets to hire his guy without firing the incumbent.
Question 1: I would think that would be true. Why hire someone to be the manager unless he used a similar philosophy.
 

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I feel like speaking Spanish well is a complete must for a major league manager. Doesn’t mean the manager needs to be Latino, but gotta he able to communicate 100 percent with young Latin players.

Love the Bam Bam pitch, but not sure I want to roll with a first-time manager who won’t have had a full off-season to get to know his squad and prep. I voted Pena for a year, and if he doesn’t do a great job find somebody younger for 2021.
 

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I guess I'm still not understanding those that are suggesting that the Sox can't find a permanent solution (well, as permanent as things get in baseball) this winter. There are only 30 of these opportunities in the world. If someone who wants to manage is going to shy away from this situation out of fear of the pressure or the clouds hanging over the club, then they aren't really a viable candidate no matter what the circumstances. I think the only roadblock they might encounter in hiring is a team not granting permission to speak to one/some of their employees (like TB potentially blocking Quatraro). Otherwise, I think they have their pick of anyone outside the 28 guys currently employed as MLB managers.
 

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Seriously though, why has DeMarlo Hale never gotten a shot anywhere after being considered a strong candidate once upon a time.
I think this is an inspired choice. He seemed to get interview chances that had no chance of going any where, but is well respected and could make for a fairly seamless transition .
 

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I think they should go the interim veteran route. Pay someone a nice parting gift to steady the ship to let the brass figure it out. No one you would really want long term would come here in the third week of January, with an organization in turmoil and looking to cut salary under a new GM regime and a depleted farm system. Real and promising candidates would want to wait it out. That said, there are also likely plenty of people that would take the job for the cash or because they are otherwise too far away in their own career tracks from manager duty. Would you want them anyway?

I can see Henry, et al, taking this hit to do a Yankee-style sell-off and reset.

You could be right, but doesn't the fact that Bloom is a recent arrival himself mitigate that? Maybe they do a quick query to see if some long-term candidates are possible, but failing that proceed as you laid out.
 

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If the Red Sox want a Cora replacement, they need a middle infielder who speaks Spanish, has broadcasting experience, and is extremely familiar with the team and the Yankees.

 

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That would be a dream, get him off Sunday Night baseball. Can you hire Mark Jackson as the bench coach?
 

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Yankee fans in their glee. My favorite is CC claiming that the cheating kept them from beating the Astros. Oddly, the Yankees biggest problem in that series was hitting ... which would not have been affected by the trash cans
 

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Yankee fans in their glee. My favorite is CC claiming that the cheating kept them from beating the Astros. Oddly, the Yankees biggest problem in that series was hitting ... which would not have been affected by the trash cans
I said somewhere else but that whole series was quite strange, 15-2 HOU combined for the 4 games in HOU, 19-5 NY combined for the 3 games in NY. It was strange at the time, it is strange now, and I'm genuinely not implying anything here. NY's biggest problem in that series wasn't hitting, it was both hitting and pitching in the road games, their hitting and pitching in NY were both quite good.
 

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I said somewhere else but that whole series was quite strange, 15-2 HOU combined for the 4 games in HOU, 19-5 NY combined for the 3 games in NY. It was strange at the time, it is strange now, and I'm genuinely not implying anything here. NY's biggest problem in that series wasn't hitting, it was both hitting and pitching in the road games, their hitting and pitching in NY were both quite good.
If they had hit in Houston, they would have won easily
 

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He told Bob Nightengale yesterday he planned to sit out 2020 and wasn't a candidate for the Astros job (link below). As a Yankees fan, I'd love to see BOS hire Bochy as I continue to think his Giants tenure was wildly overrated and he would crash and burn in 2020 in the AL East, but it doesn't seem like an option anyway.

A guy who won 3 world series is overrated? I would take my chances with a guy who won three world series. He even took the Padres to the World Series. He is a great players' manager, works well with the front office, fans love him. Great baseball mind. The only thing is if a team wants a younger manager. I didn't know he declared himself out for 2020, so, moot.
 

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A guy who won 3 world series is overrated? I would take my chances with a guy who won three world series. He even took the Padres to the World Series. He is a great players' manager, works well with the front office, fans love him. Great baseball mind. The only thing is if a team wants a younger manager. I didn't know he declared himself out for 2020, so, moot.
He won 90 games just twice in the last 21 seasons, his career record is under .500, both with SD and SF. I think he is wildly overrated and owes a huge chunk of his reputation to the postseason genius of Madison Bumgarner and I think if he takes another managerial job in the future, it will be a disaster.
 

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Chaim said in the PC that it's important for the next manager to be authentic, in order for him [manager] to be as successful as he can be.
 

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Mike Matheny had no managing experience at any level, well not sure about Little League. He did OK.

Bruce Bochy has said he had one more rodeo in him. He’s my second (close) favorite manager after Tito. He did have a couple of minor heart procedures in recent years. He went back to managing shortly after both. He is 64. If you want a high integrity guy with experience, he’s certainly it. Hire him, if he shows a sincere interest in the job (which would be a criterion for any candidate).
I have heard on TV broadcasts that Bochy is a West Coast guy and doesn’t want to work anywhere else. This many no longer be true, but I would understand the attitude.
 

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My feeling is that the new manager should have some experience actually, you know, managing. Calls for former players we have fond memories of bring a comforting wiff of familiarity, but that strikes me as trying to solve PR problems rather than on frills baseball ones.

Give me someone with actual experience at the job, even in the minors, before a player stepping into this for the first time. we can learn how to spell the new guy’s name.
 

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I voted Roenicke as the "should" because I think he provides the smoothest transition and familiarity this late in the game. This is also pending any direct involvement that may come out in the final report.
If they decide to go with a bridge manager for a year or 2, I like Pena. If they prefer to go for a potential long term replacement, I hold my nose and pick Ausmus.


My feeling is that the new manager should have some experience actually, you know, managing. Calls for former players we have fond memories of bring a comforting wiff of familiarity, but that strikes me as trying to solve PR problems rather than on frills baseball ones.

Give me someone with actual experience at the job, even in the minors, before a player stepping into this for the first time. we can learn how to spell the new guy’s name.
I'm in this camp. I get people have viewed Tek as a future manager since his playing days, but do we know if he's ever expressed interest in managing? I mean, if he did, I would think he would have had an opportunity for some type of managerial or coaching position by now. I kind of doubt he's just been hanging around hoping somebody would ask.
 

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Should: Bruce Bochy or Kevin Cash

Will: Ron Roenicke

There is also a chance they bring in someone random for a year that will work with the current staff on an interim basis since hiring a new bench coach or 3rd base coach would be a pain in the ass.
 

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Jim Leyland He's even still managing for USA Baseball. I'd love to watch him cadge smokes in the dugout.
if DD was still here this might have been a possibility. Can't see Henry going to him as a stop-gap. Although I'm not sure as to what kind of relationship they have since Leyland left town right when Henry bought the team.
 

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Should: Bruce Bochy or Kevin Cash

Will: Ron Roenicke

There is also a chance they bring in someone random for a year that will work with the current staff on an interim basis since hiring a new bench coach or 3rd base coach would be a pain in the ass.
Explain how we pluck the current manager of the Rays?
 

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Should: Bruce Bochy or Kevin Cash

Will: Ron Roenicke

There is also a chance they bring in someone random for a year that will work with the current staff on an interim basis since hiring a new bench coach or 3rd base coach would be a pain in the ass.
Can't really hire a guy who's already got a job (Cash).

Also don't know why there's a need for an interim hire for the sake of the current coaching staff. You hire the best guy available for the job. Period. If he wants his own staff, you can give it to him...eventually. After the new hire, you give the current staff the opportunity to walk away if they desire (chances are they won't given other teams are fully staffed up). If anyone leaves, you fill their jobs with coaches chosen by the new manager. Then next winter, you re-assess the whole staff as needed (same as you would any other off-season).

This is still a one out of 30 spot in the world job. If a guy wants to manage in the big leagues, he's not going to turn an opportunity down just because he might have to keep Tim Hyers as his hitting coach for a year.
 

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Offer compensation/work out a trade. Seattle and Tampa did it for Lou Piniella. Chicago and Miami did it for Ozzie.
In each of those cases, both manager and team were ready to move on. We have no indication that would be the case with Cash.

Not to mention that both of those "trades" (and the Farrell one as well) occurred quite early in the off-season when the team losing the manager had plenty of time (and arguably a desire) to seek out a replacement. Can't imagine the Rays are anxious to put their whole off-season in upheaval to bail out a division rival. Replacing a bench coach or a third base coach in January is one thing. Replacing their manager is another.
 

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Also don't know why there's a need for an interim hire for the sake of the current coaching staff. You hire the best guy available for the job. Period. If he wants his own staff, you can give it to him...eventually. After the new hire, you give the current staff the opportunity to walk away if they desire (chances are they won't given other teams are fully staffed up). If anyone leaves, you fill their jobs with coaches chosen by the new manager. Then next winter, you re-assess the whole staff as needed (same as you would any other off-season).
Exactly. With the possible exception of not wanting to put the coaching staff on the street at this point in the game , conduct this search the same exact way as if Cora was fired on October 4.
 

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My vote is Roenicke for the year. Unless something amazing happens, you're not going to get more than an interim manager this year at this date.
Next year two great managers may be available: Hinch and Cora

And yeah I think MLB is just trying to protect the business. Blame it all on a bench coach and let the players (who did it) and owner (didn't the guy who was thrown out in 2018 ALCS report directly to Crane?) off scott-free.
 

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You are crazy.

Sorry, board rules.

This is a crazy post
Well, the exact topic was who SHOULD be the next manager. Not who will haha. In an ideal world, you call up Tampa and offer a combination of money and 1 or 2 players to get Cash out of his deal (if he would want to leave). Or you bring a dump truck full of money to Bochy and hope he second-guesses retirement. Roenicke is going to be the manager for this year. Just not enough time to bring someone in.
 

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Offer compensation/work out a trade. Seattle and Tampa did it for Lou Piniella. Chicago and Miami did it for Ozzie.
Tampa's NOT trading Cash to one of their biggest rivals at this point in time. Not unless Boston makes an offer they can't refuse and Boston's NOT in that position. Perhaps as a professional courtesy to him they allow Quatraro to interview if he and Boston are interested, if suitable compensation is agreed on before hand should Boston offer the position and if Tampa thinks they have a suitable replacement ready to replace him.
 
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I thought it was interesting that Bloom said they would consider internal candidates yet declined (couldn’t comment) if anyone else on Cora’s staff was involved. I wonder if Cora was adamant that it was only him.
 

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Three names not yet posted here from Ian Browne at MLB.com.

Dino Ebel -- Dodgers third base coach and longtime Angels bench coach under Scioscia
Joe McEwing -- White Sox bench coach, about whom no description is complete without the word "scrappy"
Mark Kotsay -- A's quality control coach. As I recall, he had a dreadful Red Sox season at the end of his career.

Also Browne listed Eduardo Perez, whom @SemperFidelisSox suggested above.

More frequently-discussed names in the article include Roenicke, Varitek, McMillon, Febles, Quartaro and Bam Bam.
 

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How about Eduardo Perez. He’s interviewed for a few jobs, bilingual, been around the game and players with ESPN.
I just came in here to say the same thing. But we'll need to hurry, as I'm guessing the Mets are going to grab him the second they fire Beltran (which may be any day now).

edit: Mentioned the Mets, because I recall they were down to him or Beltran last fall.
 

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I have heard on TV broadcasts that Bochy is a West Coast guy and doesn’t want to work anywhere else. This many no longer be true, but I would understand the attitude.
I'd expect the Sox -- particularly with Bloom now -- to go in the direction of someone more innovative than a recently-retired guy with one last rodeo in him. Not to be ageist, I'm sure Bochy was well respected and for all I know he's an analytics guy, but you still aren't building for the long haul with another short-term manager.
 

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Well, the exact topic was who SHOULD be the next manager. Not who will haha. In an ideal world, you call up Tampa and offer a combination of money and 1 or 2 players to get Cash out of his deal (if he would want to leave). Or you bring a dump truck full of money to Bochy and hope he second-guesses retirement. Roenicke is going to be the manager for this year. Just not enough time to bring someone in.
Then why not suggest Tito or Dick Williams or Connie Mack?
 

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Give Roenicke a raise and an additional year, (why make a lame duck guy lamer?) and buy time to make a reasoned long-term managerial decision. And Bloom will find his young # crunching multi-lingual skipper to helm the SS Sox and steer it away from the icebergs.
 

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I’m going to add another name to this... Raúl Ibañez

He finished second to Cash when Tampa was looking for a manager

He is bilingual

He has been schooled in understanding, applying, and communicating the value of data analysts by the Dodgers and Chaims old boss

works as a MLB commentator so he is available
 

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I’m going to add another name to this... Raúl Ibañez

He finished second to Cash when Tampa was looking for a manager

He is bilingual

He has been schooled in understanding, applying, and communicating the value of data analysts by the Dodgers and Chaims old boss

works as a MLB commentator so he is available
He would be great, but he has repeatedly turned down managerial consideration the last few years, including when NY was looking for a replacement for Girardi. He said again this October he is not a managerial candidate this winter.