tune your sarcasm meterMike Matheny was a terrible manager. Anybody using him as a success wasn’t paying attention.
tune your sarcasm meterMike Matheny was a terrible manager. Anybody using him as a success wasn’t paying attention.
Question 1: I would think that would be true. Why hire someone to be the manager unless he used a similar philosophy.A key component of any hire is going to be ability/willingness to implement Chaim Bloom's analytic strategy, right?
EDIT: Does this maybe work out well for Bloom? Not that I didn't like Cora (who I believe was analytic-friendly), but he gets to hire his guy without firing the incumbent.
He wouldn't fare well with the strong daily media presence in this market.Jim Leyland He's even still managing for USA Baseball. I'd love to watch him cadge smokes in the dugout.
I think this is an inspired choice. He seemed to get interview chances that had no chance of going any where, but is well respected and could make for a fairly seamless transition .Seriously though, why has DeMarlo Hale never gotten a shot anywhere after being considered a strong candidate once upon a time.
I think they should go the interim veteran route. Pay someone a nice parting gift to steady the ship to let the brass figure it out. No one you would really want long term would come here in the third week of January, with an organization in turmoil and looking to cut salary under a new GM regime and a depleted farm system. Real and promising candidates would want to wait it out. That said, there are also likely plenty of people that would take the job for the cash or because they are otherwise too far away in their own career tracks from manager duty. Would you want them anyway?
I can see Henry, et al, taking this hit to do a Yankee-style sell-off and reset.
I said somewhere else but that whole series was quite strange, 15-2 HOU combined for the 4 games in HOU, 19-5 NY combined for the 3 games in NY. It was strange at the time, it is strange now, and I'm genuinely not implying anything here. NY's biggest problem in that series wasn't hitting, it was both hitting and pitching in the road games, their hitting and pitching in NY were both quite good.Yankee fans in their glee. My favorite is CC claiming that the cheating kept them from beating the Astros. Oddly, the Yankees biggest problem in that series was hitting ... which would not have been affected by the trash cans
If they had hit in Houston, they would have won easilyI said somewhere else but that whole series was quite strange, 15-2 HOU combined for the 4 games in HOU, 19-5 NY combined for the 3 games in NY. It was strange at the time, it is strange now, and I'm genuinely not implying anything here. NY's biggest problem in that series wasn't hitting, it was both hitting and pitching in the road games, their hitting and pitching in NY were both quite good.
A guy who won 3 world series is overrated? I would take my chances with a guy who won three world series. He even took the Padres to the World Series. He is a great players' manager, works well with the front office, fans love him. Great baseball mind. The only thing is if a team wants a younger manager. I didn't know he declared himself out for 2020, so, moot.He told Bob Nightengale yesterday he planned to sit out 2020 and wasn't a candidate for the Astros job (link below). As a Yankees fan, I'd love to see BOS hire Bochy as I continue to think his Giants tenure was wildly overrated and he would crash and burn in 2020 in the AL East, but it doesn't seem like an option anyway.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2020/01/14/astros-scandal-alented-but-they-leaderless/4464972002/
He won 90 games just twice in the last 21 seasons, his career record is under .500, both with SD and SF. I think he is wildly overrated and owes a huge chunk of his reputation to the postseason genius of Madison Bumgarner and I think if he takes another managerial job in the future, it will be a disaster.A guy who won 3 world series is overrated? I would take my chances with a guy who won three world series. He even took the Padres to the World Series. He is a great players' manager, works well with the front office, fans love him. Great baseball mind. The only thing is if a team wants a younger manager. I didn't know he declared himself out for 2020, so, moot.
I have heard on TV broadcasts that Bochy is a West Coast guy and doesn’t want to work anywhere else. This many no longer be true, but I would understand the attitude.Mike Matheny had no managing experience at any level, well not sure about Little League. He did OK.
Bruce Bochy has said he had one more rodeo in him. He’s my second (close) favorite manager after Tito. He did have a couple of minor heart procedures in recent years. He went back to managing shortly after both. He is 64. If you want a high integrity guy with experience, he’s certainly it. Hire him, if he shows a sincere interest in the job (which would be a criterion for any candidate).
I'm in this camp. I get people have viewed Tek as a future manager since his playing days, but do we know if he's ever expressed interest in managing? I mean, if he did, I would think he would have had an opportunity for some type of managerial or coaching position by now. I kind of doubt he's just been hanging around hoping somebody would ask.My feeling is that the new manager should have some experience actually, you know, managing. Calls for former players we have fond memories of bring a comforting wiff of familiarity, but that strikes me as trying to solve PR problems rather than on frills baseball ones.
Give me someone with actual experience at the job, even in the minors, before a player stepping into this for the first time. we can learn how to spell the new guy’s name.
if DD was still here this might have been a possibility. Can't see Henry going to him as a stop-gap. Although I'm not sure as to what kind of relationship they have since Leyland left town right when Henry bought the team.Jim Leyland He's even still managing for USA Baseball. I'd love to watch him cadge smokes in the dugout.
Explain how we pluck the current manager of the Rays?Should: Bruce Bochy or Kevin Cash
Will: Ron Roenicke
There is also a chance they bring in someone random for a year that will work with the current staff on an interim basis since hiring a new bench coach or 3rd base coach would be a pain in the ass.
Can't really hire a guy who's already got a job (Cash).Should: Bruce Bochy or Kevin Cash
Will: Ron Roenicke
There is also a chance they bring in someone random for a year that will work with the current staff on an interim basis since hiring a new bench coach or 3rd base coach would be a pain in the ass.
Offer compensation/work out a trade. Seattle and Tampa did it for Lou Piniella. Chicago and Miami did it for Ozzie.Explain how we pluck the current manager of the Rays?
Tampa is a highly competitive team. They aren’t punting their manager to a chief rival 30 days before spring training.Offer compensation/work out a trade. Seattle and Tampa did it for Lou Piniella. Chicago and Miami did it for Ozzie.
You are crazy.Offer compensation/work out a trade. Seattle and Tampa did it for Lou Piniella. Chicago and Miami did it for Ozzie.
In each of those cases, both manager and team were ready to move on. We have no indication that would be the case with Cash.Offer compensation/work out a trade. Seattle and Tampa did it for Lou Piniella. Chicago and Miami did it for Ozzie.
Exactly. With the possible exception of not wanting to put the coaching staff on the street at this point in the game , conduct this search the same exact way as if Cora was fired on October 4.Also don't know why there's a need for an interim hire for the sake of the current coaching staff. You hire the best guy available for the job. Period. If he wants his own staff, you can give it to him...eventually. After the new hire, you give the current staff the opportunity to walk away if they desire (chances are they won't given other teams are fully staffed up). If anyone leaves, you fill their jobs with coaches chosen by the new manager. Then next winter, you re-assess the whole staff as needed (same as you would any other off-season).
Well, the exact topic was who SHOULD be the next manager. Not who will haha. In an ideal world, you call up Tampa and offer a combination of money and 1 or 2 players to get Cash out of his deal (if he would want to leave). Or you bring a dump truck full of money to Bochy and hope he second-guesses retirement. Roenicke is going to be the manager for this year. Just not enough time to bring someone in.You are crazy.
Sorry, board rules.
This is a crazy post
Tampa's NOT trading Cash to one of their biggest rivals at this point in time. Not unless Boston makes an offer they can't refuse and Boston's NOT in that position. Perhaps as a professional courtesy to him they allow Quatraro to interview if he and Boston are interested, if suitable compensation is agreed on before hand should Boston offer the position and if Tampa thinks they have a suitable replacement ready to replace him.Offer compensation/work out a trade. Seattle and Tampa did it for Lou Piniella. Chicago and Miami did it for Ozzie.
MLB's investigation is still on going isn't it? It's not smart to say yes or no if it's yet to be determined.I thought it was interesting that Bloom said they would consider internal candidates yet declined (couldn’t comment) if anyone else on Cora’s staff was involved. I wonder if Cora was adamant that it was only him.
I just came in here to say the same thing. But we'll need to hurry, as I'm guessing the Mets are going to grab him the second they fire Beltran (which may be any day now).How about Eduardo Perez. He’s interviewed for a few jobs, bilingual, been around the game and players with ESPN.
I'd expect the Sox -- particularly with Bloom now -- to go in the direction of someone more innovative than a recently-retired guy with one last rodeo in him. Not to be ageist, I'm sure Bochy was well respected and for all I know he's an analytics guy, but you still aren't building for the long haul with another short-term manager.I have heard on TV broadcasts that Bochy is a West Coast guy and doesn’t want to work anywhere else. This many no longer be true, but I would understand the attitude.
Then why not suggest Tito or Dick Williams or Connie Mack?Well, the exact topic was who SHOULD be the next manager. Not who will haha. In an ideal world, you call up Tampa and offer a combination of money and 1 or 2 players to get Cash out of his deal (if he would want to leave). Or you bring a dump truck full of money to Bochy and hope he second-guesses retirement. Roenicke is going to be the manager for this year. Just not enough time to bring someone in.
Eh, not sure I'd want Dick Williams... but Connie Mack is great with the media and speaks four languages (English, Gaelic, Elvish, and good old Frontier Gibberish).Then why not suggest Tito or Dick Williams or Connie Mack?
Earl Weaver is more my flavorThen why not suggest Tito or Dick Williams or Connie Mack?
One guy they just were forced to fire, the other they couldn't possibly EVER considerNext year two great managers may be available: Hinch and Cora
He would be great, but he has repeatedly turned down managerial consideration the last few years, including when NY was looking for a replacement for Girardi. He said again this October he is not a managerial candidate this winter.I’m going to add another name to this... Raúl Ibañez
He finished second to Cash when Tampa was looking for a manager
He is bilingual
He has been schooled in understanding, applying, and communicating the value of data analysts by the Dodgers and Chaims old boss
works as a MLB commentator so he is available