Who won the Brock Holt for Mark Melancon swap?

[Paradigm]

Mark Melancon has been a very good closer for the Pirates. He's solidified the back-end of that bullpen, providing 2.5 and 2 WAR since joining Pittsburgh, although he's showing some signs of decline. 
 
Brock Holt has shown that he can effectively play every position on the field at an average-or-better value (he's a pretty damn good outfielder). He reduces the bench load and was worth 2.3 wins last year. He's hit very well for a utility guy, meaning the Red Sox have not had to roster a no-bat reserve infielder like a Brendan Ryan.
 
edit: shit, I should have added a poll. 

 

[Rasputin]

We win.

 

[theapportioner]

Assuming that the opportunity cost of keeping him includes Koji perhaps not turning into our closer, then we win for sure.

 

[koufax32]

I think you provided an answer in how you explained the background for the question. Melancon has been a very good RP. I think it wise though to refuse to assign any extra value to his closer moniker. I would imagine how people answer your question will largely depend on if they agree with me on that previous sentence. Holt has been a good baseball player through his hitting and fielding. That would be true if he only played one or two positions. I think the fact that he is a true Super Utility guy who allows for more specialization in the bullpen due to the extra roster spot he allows has enormous value that I think is extremely hard to quantify. I am a big believer in valuing roster flexibility whether in fantasy sports or actual. That to me puts Holt above Melancon.

Another factor here you kind of alluded to is the high turnover/variability of rp's. That would imply a safer projection for Holt going forward as well.

 

[Seels]

I don't think Melancon was ever going to be what he is for the Pirates for us. He strikes me as the epitome of a guy that can get things done in the NL and not in the AL.
 
I'm not as big on Holt as a lot of people but at worst he's a guy that is about as good a bench player as you could hope for.
 
Getting anything for Melancon's awful performance is a plus. Sox win.

 

[nvalvo]

Also, from the Bucco perspective, their SS position has been a smoldering ruin (with the partial exception of Mercer, a glove first shortstop who sometimes grades out negatively by the numbers), and Holt can actually hit acceptably and play okay defense there. Melancon's been good for them, but they could really use another middle infielder. 
 
Whether or not we won the trade, I think they definitely lost it. 
 
 

I don't think Melancon was ever going to be what he is for the Pirates for us. He strikes me as the epitome of a guy that can get things done in the NL and not in the AL.

 
Why? It's not like he faces opposing pitchers very often pitching in the late innings. 

 

[Cellar-Door]

Draw to me.
This seems like one of those deals where both teams came out happy.
Melancon really helped them out the last few year, and saved them a bunch of money in dumping Hanrahan's corpse on the Red Sox.
 
 
 
Edit- I disagree about Mercer, 2013 and 2014 he put up .267/.318/.406 in 920 PA vs Brock Holt's .272/.324/.364 in 564

 

[MakMan44]

If I was to pick today, I'd pick Holt. Lot of value of being able to plug him all around the field and expect something like league average offense, maybe a bit lower. 

 

[Soxfan in Fla]

Win for both. Both teams have benefitted nicely.

 

[GraysonGrandeGonads]

All 4 parties. (the key players for their next contracts and both teams)
 
Although I'd love MM in the pen right now. 

 

[JBJ_HOF]

I don't think Melancon was ever going to be what he is for the Pirates for us. He strikes me as the epitome of a guy that can get things done in the NL and not in the AL.

 
Melancon is a stud and he did do for the Red Sox what he is doing for Pitt. In his last 43 IP with the Sox he had 40 K, 10 BB, and 3 HR. He is a much better assent than Brock Holt and it's not particularly close.

 

[Cuzittt]

Brock Holt is extremely valuable due to his versatility.

Who won this trade is a question of how you judge versatility.

 

[threecy]

 
Melancon is a stud and he did do for the Red Sox what he is doing for Pitt. In his last 43 IP with the Sox he had 40 K, 10 BB, and 3 HR. He is a much better assent than Brock Holt and it's not particularly close.

 
It's just as much as SSS as his last outings with the Red Sox, but he hasn't been as dominant in interleague games vs. the AL (mind you, with the exception of 2015 (skewed by a 3ER appearance vs. the Tigers), his interleague stats are still very strong, but not the same as his sub 2.00 ERA lines overall).  It may be a stretch to think his Pittsburgh stats would be replicated in Boston.