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DennyDoyle'sBoil

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Spain played a fantastic match. Incredibly physical and the U.S. was pretty clearly affected.

I might give player of the match to Corredera. She was lock down and controlled the U.S. left side in the final third for 90 plus minutes. Not sure why the U.S. didn't try the right, but that was just a really gritty performance and one that could have won the game.

Great for the U.S. to come out on top of a tester like that.
 

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If it's clear she's not going to get there, she has an obligation to avoid or minimize conduct. You don't have a right to take out the player playing the ball, and that's ALWAYS called a foul on the attacker if the keeper gets there. If she misses, or you beat her to it because it's lower than she thought, it's fair game. But she's got her entire length of arm to get there ahead of you with just your head, she's going to get there first if it's above head level. You don't get a license to take out the keeper just because there's a cross.
That makes sense as a rule, but an attacker tracking the ball probably doesn't have a way to make that determination in real time. As for the play itself, I don't remember it as clear cut as you're making it out to be, but I'm certainly not ready to die on that hill.
 

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great win by the US, they probably deserved a slightly more flattering scoreline but they were the better team out there. There are no moral victories at this stage.

Are we really discussing looks?
we're discussing whether it's fair for a casual fan to look at Rapinoe and think she's among the oldest on the team, when she's actually in the middle.
 

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Yet another weird VAR issue. There, in the end of the game, VAR wasn't really able to do its job because there was never a stoppage. The U.S. did a great job of keeping the ball in play all the way to the final whistle and that created little opportunity. Once the final whistle goes, VAR really can't signal the ref.

Or maybe they did review it. It seemed that with a possible issue in the box happening so late in the game that VAR really never got a chance for a review.
 

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great win by the US, they probably deserved a slightly more flattering scoreline but they were the better team out there. There are no moral victories at this stage.


we're discussing whether it's fair for a casual fan to look at Rapinoe and think she's among the oldest on the team, when she's actually in the middle.
Just going to type this. A tough win is a win. Survive and advance.
 

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dude, there's no h. Benefit of the doubt that you're not trying to be "clever" and make a joke but maybe try to spell it right going forward?
Umm, okay. Sorry for misspelling her name.

Way to jump to the thought that I was calling her a "hoe" or some such nonsense. Based on the fact I've been a pretty consistent USWNT supporter and know of nothing that would make me think calling her a "hoe" is funny, but I appreciate you making sure I wasn't just being anti-women because I spelled her name wrong. In a post I literally said was a cool moment after the game.

If you gotta say "benefit of the doubt", I kinda feel you really aren't. I'm not going to see any response you make, but hope you have a good afternoon.
 

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Only a few minutes in and already another mistake on goalkick/corner in the Canada/Sweden match. Given how important corners are it seems this would be one thing an eye in the sky could instantly help out with with multiple camera views.
 

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Just going to type this. A tough win is a win. Survive and advance.
Tough win.. but I have to ask..how many times was Morgan fouled either on or off the ball. She seemed to get tagged regularly and only one of them was given a card?
Even the tackle with clear studs up wasn't given even a free kick against Heath I believe. Ref didn't have control of any of that even though the US did benefit from two PKs which is huge of course.
Spain just seemed really chippy...they're going to be very good going forward though.
 

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Umm, okay. Sorry for misspelling her name.

Way to jump to the thought that I was calling her a "hoe" or some such nonsense. Based on the fact I've been a pretty consistent USWNT supporter and know of nothing that would make me think calling her a "hoe" is funny, but I appreciate you making sure I wasn't just being anti-women because I spelled her name wrong. In a post I literally said was a cool moment after the game.

If you gotta say "benefit of the doubt", I kinda feel you really aren't. I'm not going to see any response you make, but hope you have a good afternoon.
It's not a big deal, but if you're claiming to be a supporter, well, it's kinda like a Patriots fan misspelling "Belichick". Or the old running gag around here for those who misspelled "Buchholz". Like, while you were posting the following, about 50 other people spelled her name right...

Rapinhoe needs to hit that better.
Worst 2 goal game ever for Rapinhoe.
That ball by Rapinhoe was sweet.
She was LITERALLY choking Rapinhoe.
The Spanish player in the Rapinhoe jersey? lol That's cool.
It got to be a little face-palm-inducing, is all, and at that point it's not just a stray-finger typo. Someone might reasonably wonder if you're doing it intentionally, by the 5th time.
 
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I personally think DrewDawg is much funnier than trying to make a pun that stupid.
 

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It got to be a little face-palm-inducing, is all, and at that point it's not just a stray-finger typo. Someone might reasonably wonder if you're doing it intentionally, by the 5th time.
No. If I'm spelling it wrong, I'm spelling it wrong every time. You know why? Because I didn't know. There are ways to point that out without the way it was done. Especially if it was "face-palm inducing". And honestly, half the posts are from my phone. Once I spell it wrong the first time or 2, it's autotyping that shit.

Unless you can find even one post of mine where I insinuate anything about her or another player that would make me think "hoe" is "funny" move on. Because if we want to delve into posting history on this site and how that might influence what people think of your posts, your history is fair game too.
 

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No. If I'm spelling it wrong, I'm spelling it wrong every time. You know why? Because I didn't know. There are ways to point that out without the way it was done.

Unless you can find even one post of mine where I insinuate anything about her or another player that would make me think "hoe" is "funny" move on. Because if we want to delve into posting history on this site and how that might influence what people think of your posts, your history is fair game too.
Don't get me wrong, I agree with Kliq, and with you that you're above that sort of childish shit. Napkin jumping to the conclusion that you're doing some sort of playground insult was going way too far. But you gotta admit it merits at least a "C'mon, man!"
 

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Tough win.. but I have to ask..how many times was Morgan fouled either on or off the ball. She seemed to get tagged regularly and only one of them was given a card?
Even the tackle with clear studs up wasn't given even a free kick against Heath I believe. Ref didn't have control of any of that even though the US did benefit from two PKs which is huge of course.
Spain just seemed really chippy...they're going to be very good going forward though.
They were more than chippy - but isn't that the textbook for beating a more skilled opponent, no matter the competition? You have to make them pay, and we did.

I agree that the ref could have called way more than she did, but any game where you win 2-1 on 2 penalties and didn't score a goal from open play, it's hard to complain about the officiating. I think you take the win and move on.
 

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They were more than chippy - but isn't that the textbook for beating a more skilled opponent, no matter the competition? You have to make them pay, and we did.

I agree that the ref could have called way more than she did, but any game where you win 2-1 on 2 penalties and didn't score a goal from open play, it's hard to complain about the officiating. I think you take the win and move on.
Not disagreeing with the take the win and move on.. BUT..what was odd to me, especially starting out, was how often Morgan was on the ground with zero calls and the ref not even looking into what happened. I don't recall Morgan being the type of player to dive often so it seemed like an intentional cheap tactic by Spain to keep kicking her off the ball..especially since she'd had injury issues last game. It's all well and good to be chippy or more than chippy, but typically the ref puts some kind of control on that at some point. I think the first card either way was around the 60th minute or so and that player had been involved in a number of questionable, at best, challenges prior to that. Just seemed like mildly cynical play..especially since Spain was actually more on the front foot than most teams that would play that way.
 

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Canada looked to be the better team that half but had very few high-quality chances to show for it, nevermind goals. Sweden appear to be playing for the counter, and looked decent in coming forward.
 

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right here
Don't get me wrong, I agree with Kliq, and with you that you're above that sort of childish shit. Napkin jumping to the conclusion that you're doing some sort of playground insult was going way too far. But you gotta admit it merits at least a "C'mon, man!"
Could you point out where I did that?
I literally said I was giving him the benefit of the doubt that he wasn't doing that. You can tell because, like, the words were there. Rest assured that if I wasn't giving him the benefit of the doubt it would have been an entirely different result.
 

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If you are going to play a high line, you better not miss the chance to intercept that first pass out. Canada did, and it gave Sweden a goal.
 

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No movement towards the ball, and the hand wasn't very far away from the body, but that's getting called pretty consistently.

And...SAVED!

And even more incredibly, no review necessary to see if her foot was 2 inches off the line!
 

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And now a penalty the other way, to potentially end Canadian hopes.

But VAR takes the penalty away on an offside call. Although to me, looking at that, the only part of her body offside was her arm.
 

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what a waste, they could've taken the set piece as a back-pass to the LB standing on the 18 and she'd have gotten an uncontested look from 15 yards. Could be blocked, but she could also have netted it. The 1-against-6 header was the even-lower percentage choice.
 

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Forgot about this game and just turned it on for that last corner. Always have to love the keeper-comes-up-for-the-last-ditch-corner, it happens so rarely.
 

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Germany is not going to like playing against Sweden, I'll say that for them.

edit: also, don't sleep on the Chinese. Theirs is no '99 squad, but they held Spain to a scoreless draw and only lost 1-0 to Germany in a game where they could easily have gotten a result. I like them over Italy. Japan-Netherlands could go either way though.
 

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Forgot about this game and just turned it on for that last corner. Always have to love the keeper-comes-up-for-the-last-ditch-corner, it happens so rarely.
My favorite non-Liverpool club football moment of all time is still probably the Jimmy Glass last-kick-of-the-season goal to keep Carlisle United from being relegated out of the Football League.
 

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what a waste, they could've taken the set piece as a back-pass to the LB standing on the 18 and she'd have gotten an uncontested look from 15 yards. Could be blocked, but she could also have netted it. The 1-against-6 header was the even-lower percentage choice.
off-topic, but philosophically I think you'd almost always be better with a short(ish) corner to an open player who can then dribble, shoot, or try a pass with some thought behind it, rather than blindly humping it toward the six-yard box and ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

nobody pays me for this stuff though.
 

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Six of the eight Europe versus the rest of the world games are now over and only the USA representing the non-Continent.

With the exception of Brazil France I would say the Europe teams had the better of the tactics out of five of the six so far.
 

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off-topic, but philosophically I think you'd almost always be better with a short(ish) corner to an open player who can then dribble, shoot, or try a pass with some thought behind it, rather than blindly humping it toward the six-yard box and ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

nobody pays me for this stuff though.
There's a lot of research on this, starting with the discovery that short corners result in a goal (before a change of possession) more often than cross-to-box corners do. And then discovering that in-swinging corners do better than out-swinging ones, percentage wise, etc.

The Belichick types who would actually study and implement this largely don't have positions of power, though, perhaps because they're less good at the other parts of coaching.

The USWNT always seems to have some particularly creative set plays that they've clearly spent a lot of time working on, and it's very pleasant to watch because the play is never just "aim a moonball for the penalty spot and pray".
 

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off-topic, but philosophically I think you'd almost always be better with a short(ish) corner to an open player who can then dribble, shoot, or try a pass with some thought behind it, rather than blindly humping it toward the six-yard box and ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

nobody pays me for this stuff though.
Short corners that keep possession have a higher average goal number than humping it into the box.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17465493-the-numbers-game