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Italy capitalizes on a bad giveway and puts together a nice string of passes to go up 1-0 on China at 14'.
 

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US/France tix are reportedly going for over $10,000 on the secondary market.
 

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US/France tix are reportedly going for over $10,000 on the secondary market.
There's a pair listed for that. Average ticket price is a better indicator, and that is apparently around $600. Which still makes it the most in-demand women's sporting event of basically all time.

Megan Rapido had a pretty awesome interview after the game yesterday, with some great quotes about the Spain match as well as the France match:
Megan Rapinoe on the quarterfinal against France in Paris: "Hopefully it's a complete spectacle. Just an absolute media circus. I hope it's huge and crazy. That's what it should be. This is the best game, this is what everybody wanted. I think we want it, seems like they're up for it ... all the fans. Maybe it will be a pretty even split between the fans in the stadium. We've been traveling pretty deep in this World Cup. I hope it's a total [blank]-show circus. It's going to be totally awesome. I think this is what everybody wants."
 

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Hmm, maybe they should be playing this match at the 80,000 seat Stade de France rather than the 48,000 seat Parc de Princes.
 

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if they had the kind of foresight to "set up" the US-France game location they would have done the brackets differently to have them not play til the Final
 

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There's a pair listed for that. Average ticket price is a better indicator, and that is apparently around $600. Which still makes it the most in-demand women's sporting event of basically all time.
Yeah, I saw the tweet and wasn't able to click on story until later. Was going to come back and update, but you got there first.
 

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China has out-possessed and out-shot Italy and is down 2-0. Just a huge number of wasted possessions in or near the italian box.
 

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Did you even watch? China's keeper kept the score down.

Italy aren't the most talented team in the tournament. They're incredibly well-organized and coached. It's a testament to the developing women's programs in Europe that they're even here. They didn't even qualify for the last World Cup. I don't think they can hang with the bigger teams, but this was a hell of a result for them.
 

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Japan can’t even get it out of their side of the field.
 

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Did you even watch? China's keeper kept the score down.

Italy aren't the most talented team in the tournament. They're incredibly well-organized and coached. It's a testament to the developing women's programs in Europe that they're even here. They didn't even qualify for the last World Cup. I don't think they can hang with the bigger teams, but this was a hell of a result for them.
Didn't have a chance to watch it. Did they catenaccio it or did they earn the win?
 

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Can Fox not find the right mix of crowd noise and commentators? Half the time I can barely here them.
 

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some luck on a redirected corner for the Netherlands' goal - it hit a defender between the legs, on a path that the keeper was heading for, and instead got redirected by the defender to the far corner and side netting. Couldn't have aimed it any better than they got by accident.
 

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Although Netherlands’ superiority in the air is obvious, Japan’s general refusal to try to just boot the ball upfield is notable.

Weird to see so much passing in front of their own goal.
 

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I’m newer to the game and don’t really understand tactics as much as most but Japan’s defense is so strange to me. They have been allowing so much pressure for long periods of time but are so well organized that they’ve barely been threatened. Everything is to the outside looking for crosses that just aren’t there
 

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I’m newer to the game and don’t really understand tactics as much as most but Japan’s defense is so strange to me. They have been allowing so much pressure for long periods of time but are so well organized that they’ve barely been threatened. Everything is to the outside looking for crosses that just aren’t there
Of course as I hit submit they get threatened and give up a potential hand ball
 

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No way. Not a PK.

EDIT: Watching on small screen. I may be wrong.
 

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The yellow seems excessive. The handball didn't seem intentional. Was it for dissent?
I think it's pretty common, right? Since handball by definition has to be "deliberate" I guess the handling in the box is almost always a card?
 

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I think it's pretty common, right? Since handball by definition has to be "deliberate" I guess the handling in the box is almost always a card?
Part of the reason the rule needs to be fixed. The handball does not need to be deliberate by definition. Consider the UCL final--Sissoko's arm was clearly up, but he did not deliberately handle the ball nor clearly gain an advantage. The call was made, but no yellow given.
 

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Part of the reason the rule needs to be fixed. The handball does not need to be deliberate by definition. Consider the UCL final--Sissoko's arm was clearly up, but he did not deliberately handle the ball nor clearly gain an advantage. The call was made, but no yellow given.
Deliberate is still in the rule. I believe the only thing they changed is that a handball need not be deliberate to be a direct free kick if it leads to a goal or goalscoring opportunity.

The handball that was called there is still the "deliberate" variety. I think the confusion is that "deliberate" does not mean "intent to play the ball with the hand," but merely "intent to put the hand" in the offending position.
 

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I’m newer to the game and don’t really understand tactics as much as most but Japan’s defense is so strange to me. They have been allowing so much pressure for long periods of time but are so well organized that they’ve barely been threatened. Everything is to the outside looking for crosses that just aren’t there
ding ding ding
 

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Deliberate is still in the rule. I believe the only thing they changed is that a handball need not be deliberate to be a direct free kick if it leads to a goal or goalscoring opportunity.

The handball that was called there is still the "deliberate" variety. I think the confusion is that "deliberate" does not mean "intent to play the ball with the hand," but merely "intent to put the hand" in the offending position.
Yes and no. The laws of the game are written poorly, which is why we are debating. A FK is given if a player handles the ball deliberately. This cuts in your favor. However, "handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with the ball with the hand or arm. The following must be considered: 1) movement of hand towards ball (as opposed to ball towards hand); 2) distance between ball and hand; and 3) the position of the hand does not necessarily mean there is an offense." Based on the written rule, I think Japan got hosed by that call.

I'm not going to go into the factors for a yellow because I don't think a handball was merited there.
 

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Yeah, the definitely need to rewrite the handball rule. Given the way it is called right now it would be something like "handball is called if either (a) a player deliberately uses their hand/arm to strike or deflect the ball or (b) the ball strikes the player when their hand/arm is in an unnatural position (i.e. away from their body). (a) would be a yellow card, (b) would not.

The problem with (b) of course is that attacking players are going to start deliberately smashing the ball at defenders at close range in the hope that their arm with be in an unnatural position.
 

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I think the intent of the amendment, based on the stuff that came out around the time, was that a hand getting struck by the ball in an unnatural position is a "deliberate" handball. It's just that "deliberate" doesn't mean "intentional hand to ball" and thus I think the intent of the rule change was indeed that a yellow should follow even the ball to hand in unnatural position handling. That's certainly how it's being called.

I mean, I'm not disagreeing that the rule should perhaps be changed, but I don't think it's being implemented differently from intended. The question is just whether it's a good rule.
 

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I think the intent of the amendment, based on the stuff that came out around the time, was that a hand getting struck by the ball in an unnatural position is a "deliberate" handball. It's just that "deliberate" doesn't mean "intentional hand to ball" and thus I think the intent of the rule change was indeed that a yellow should follow even the ball to hand in unnatural position handling. That's certainly how it's being called.

I mean, I'm not disagreeing that the rule should perhaps be changed, but I don't think it's being implemented differently from intended. The question is just whether it's a good rule.
You may be right, but I don't see much of a difference between the handball today and Sissoko's against Liverpool. Both PKs, but why didn't Sissoko get a yellow? What about Kimpebe in the PSG-MAN U match? No yellow given there.