Yep. But if US doesnt win later, Iran can advance with draw versus US which slightly complicates it.
World Cup Day 6 11/25: AMERICAN REVOLUTION!
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If US loses by less than 4 goals today, they will control their destiny and go through with a win versus Iran.
That might be the strangest sentence I’ve ever written.
I think an Iran win is actually preferable to a draw.
Sure the US could draw all 3 games and go through but so could have Wales.
Now the US can lose to England and still have a good chance of going through.
frankly if we can’t be Iran we don’t deserve the knockout stage anyway.
Sure the US could draw all 3 games and go through but so could have Wales.
Now the US can lose to England and still have a good chance of going through.
frankly if we can’t be Iran we don’t deserve the knockout stage anyway.
This group will be so finely poised after the US beats England…
I think in that scenario round 3 becomes “win and you’re in” for all four teams.
I think in that scenario round 3 becomes “win and you’re in” for all four teams.
It basically makes today irrelevant and Tuesday a knockout match against a team that can bunker and counter. Going to interesting if Gregg rests a bunch on yellows.
Dest and McKennie yellows scare me. Is #7 on Iran good, seeing as he is now out vs the US?
#7 is Jahanbakhsh, he was once a nailed-on starter but has ceded playing time increasingly to Gholizadeh. I think Jahanbakhsh is the better fit at RM against the US but won't be a huge blow for Iran IMO
Huge worry about Tim Ream being able to survive for me. Not as worried about Dest or McKennie who arguably shouldn’t be starting based on form/fitness.
On one hand, if we get no points from England the danger is that Iran can sit deep and force the US to try and break them down, a game we’re bad at playing and they’d advance on the draw.
On the other hand, Iran also looked worse playing that game than they did today being aggressive. Probably mostly due to England being England though.
On the other hand, Iran also looked worse playing that game than they did today being aggressive. Probably mostly due to England being England though.
Yellow accumulation could matter in game 3 vs. Iran. Does McKennie start? What a result for the US.
Where is the 4 goals coming from?
If we lose 2-0 today. We'll be at 1 point with -2 GD, which will be the same as Wales. If they beat Iran 1-0 and Wales beats England 2-0, then we'll have:
England 6 points
Wales 4 points, 0 GD
US 4 points, -1 GD
Iran 3 points
And Wales would go through.
I believe if the teams are level on pts, GD, GS, and h2h, they then look at the results in a table absent the 4th place team, where it becomes:
Wales - 4 pts, +1 GD, win over England
England - 3 pts, +1 GD, win over US
US - 3 pts, -1 GD, win over Iran
Might be wrong but sourcing it off of this
I was looking at the same thing and not sure where you got that they'd drop the 4th place team results. Are you thinking of if it's a 3 way tie? Don't think that scenario qualifies here.
I’m going to avoid researching the letter of the rule and just submit to the wisdom of the forum: Why was the Qatari goalie allowed to handle with his hands that header back to him from a teammate?
Other than Bale, what Wales player is better than anybody on England’s bench? It’s not like England is a thin squad.
On replay, looks like Afif felt contact and his body went completely limp. I think Lahoz makes the right decision and VAR probably didn't see a clear error
The goalie can't handle if the defender passed the ball with his foot. Any other part of the body and it's fair game.
Ah fair, I took that to mean all three teams that could advance, so def misinterpreting it
I mean, I'm not betting money on it, but Argentina lost to Saudi Arabia with higher stakes.
We just shouldn't be claiming that the US controls their own destiny if it's not mathematically true.
Oops, that's a pretty bad play in the box.
I love the zip up hoodie the Senegalese coach is wearing. Looks like he could have picked it up a Walmart.
I love the zip up hoodie the Senegalese coach is wearing. Looks like he could have picked it up a Walmart.
By the way, if the player flicks the ball up and then heads it back to the keeper it's still a(n indirect) foul.
It's considered trickery to try to get around the back-pass prohibition and the player would get a yellow card for ungentlemanly conduct.
View: https://twitter.com/Concaholic/status/822894396098179072
They kept showing an Iranian woman, wearing the garb of any free woman, heartily enjoying the festivities and cheering for her home nation’s team after their first goal. It was a political swipe at the government of Iran in a football thread, but I accept with pride any yellow card shown to me.
My takeaway from this morning is every team in the group now has a chance to survive or go home IF we can beat England today.
You are correct - I was thinking of Iran as the key threat for the second spot.
I don’t see Wales beating England, but it’s obviously a possibility.
If Ecuador could get something from Netherlands today, I’d love to what kind of horsing they would lay on Qatar in the final game.