Young, scrappy and hungry: when does Hamilton get his shot?

Big Papi's Mango Salsa

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Rooting for Aaron Burr at this point.
That's pretty funny.

With the caveat of I'm not looking for the answer of "it means he's been REALLY bad" but I'm genuinely trying to ask here. How does one quantify a -15 OPS+? As in, I understand that 100 is exactly average, and that something like a 115OPS+ means you've been about 15% better than a replacement level player while a 90 OPS+ means you've been 90% as good (or 10% worse) than a replacement level player.

How is a negative score described / quantified.
 

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That's pretty funny.

With the caveat of I'm not looking for the answer of "it means he's been REALLY bad" but I'm genuinely trying to ask here. How does one quantify a -15 OPS+? As in, I understand that 100 is exactly average, and that something like a 115OPS+ means you've been about 15% better than a replacement level player while a 90 OPS+ means you've been 90% as good (or 10% worse) than a replacement level player.

How is a negative score described / quantified.
115% worse than replacement level?
 

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Thank you, but what is that trying to imply?

As in, would "replacement level" be the idea of bringing up "anyone" from AAA to fill the position. So something below that is like bringing up a bad AAA player, and thus -15 OPS+ would be like bringing up a bad AA player.
 
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Thank you, but what is that trying to imply?

As in, would "replacement level" be the idea of bringing up "anyone" from AAA to fill the position. So something below that is like bringing up a bad AAA player, and thus -15 OPS+ would be like bringing up a bad AA player.
But a 100 OPS+ isn’t replacement level, it’s basically average production. So I guess -115 is 115% worse than the average.
 

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Thanks both.

I suppose maybe it's just that there isn't really an equivalency component to it, when I was hoping there was one to more easily conceptualize the data.
 

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Thanks both.

I suppose maybe it's just that there isn't really an equivalency component to it, when I was hoping there was one to more easily conceptualize the data.
Something like if the Sox called up a single A guy with a bad hit tool. Not even replacement level bad.
Or a reliever who hasn''t batted since high school.
 

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Hamilton doesn't have a hit since Blizzard told us he gets hits, that seems like a correlation.
 

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To be a little less pile-on-y..... it's still a super SSS, but more than that, between him and Dalbec, it should underscore how large the gap between AAA and the ML is right now for anyone other than a few absolute elite players. There's people clamoring for Rafaela to be called up... for Mayer... posters thinking that Dalbec may have finally figured something out. But it's more likely that elite AAA players are never going to be anything more than the so-called "AAAA" types with very, very few becoming even replacement level ML quality guys. Defense is more challenging too.
 

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To be a little less pile-on-y..... it's still a super SSS, but more than that, between him and Dalbec, it should underscore how large the gap between AAA and the ML is right now for anyone other than a few absolute elite players. There's people clamoring for Rafaela to be called up... for Mayer... posters thinking that Dalbec may have finally figured something out. But it's more likely that elite AAA players are never going to be anything more than the so-called "AAAA" types with very, very few becoming even replacement level ML quality guys. Defense is more challenging too.
This was the lesson last year too when everyone was injured and we had AAA guys playing positions in the majors that were unfamiliar to them. I don't know what we did to deserve this seemingly endless run of horrible injury luck -- don't fans in Texas or Tampa do more to piss off the baseball gods than us? -- but I sure hope it ends.
 

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In a related topic (somewhat any way) I wonder what the record is for players playing shortstop during 1 season for one team.
Kike, Chang, Reyes, Dalbec, Hamilton, Arroyo, I think Valdez played some too. That would be 7 if I am correct and Story could make. Seven before July is a pretty big number.
 

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In a related topic (somewhat any way) I wonder what the record is for players playing shortstop during 1 season for one team.
Kike, Chang, Reyes, Dalbec, Hamilton, Arroyo, I think Valdez played some too. That would be 7 if I am correct and Story could make. Seven before July is a pretty big number.
I think the only thing maybe a bit unusual is that they've had seven guys field the position before July. They had seven last year and seven the year before despite having a generally healthy All Star starting at the position. Every team goes through periods where they have a position that is a revolving door for various reasons. The Red Sox fielded 10 different players at second base last season and 11 in 2021 (8 so far this year).
 

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Wait... he was a comic artist and got over 3 million views on YouTube but doesn't know how to write a contraction? It must be nice.