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Do any of you(I'm sure many do) remember the late May Friday night pitching match up of Vida Blue and the A's against Sonny Siebert and the Sox in 1971? I think they may have been both undefeated and Siebert and the Sox won. Both teams were in first place also.
 

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Do any of you(I'm sure many do) remember the late May Friday night pitching match up of Vida Blue and the A's against Sonny Siebert and the Sox in 1971? I think they may have been both undefeated and Siebert and the Sox won. Both teams were in first place also.
I was there. Blue was 10-1 going into that game and I think Siebert was 8-0. Sox beat Blue and the crowd started chanting "Vida Blue, 10 and 2."
 

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Do any of you(I'm sure many do) remember the late May Friday night pitching match up of Vida Blue and the A's against Sonny Siebert and the Sox in 1971? I think they may have been both undefeated and Siebert and the Sox won. Both teams were in first place also.
Yup. My old man took me to that game for my birthday. We had good seats sort of behind the plate (we usually sat 1st base grandstand/infield ) One of the most hyped Fenway pitching match-ups I remember.

Blue was young phenom, off to a great start and was IIRC 10-1, and Seibert was 9-0. It wasn't the pitching gem as advertised but it was a pretty good game, and Seibert got the W.
 

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Didn’t Beck give up a big home run in game 1 or game 2 of the 99 ALCS? Maybe to Bernie? Sox were actually really competitive that series. Could have at least taken it to 7 games with a couple breaks.
Yes there was a real bad call in Game one where Knoblauch didn't touch the bag like game 4 I think.?? Two extra inning losses then a huge win with Pedro over Clemens in game 3. They could have been up 3 to 0. But shoulda coulda woulda. And that Yankee team was still great and could have come back from 3 to 0 so maybe thank God that didn't happen, LOL. But yes a few calls and breaks and they may have won that series.
 

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Yup. My old man took me to that game for my birthday. We had good seats sort of behind the plate (we usually sat 1st base grandstand/infield ) One of the most hyped Fenway pitching match-ups I remember.

Blue was young phenom, off to a great start and was IIRC 10-1, and Seibert was 9-0. It wasn't the pitching gem as advertised but it was a pretty good game, and Seibert got the W.
Yes it was a fun first half that year. I was mad at the Sox for trading Tony C but they were still my team. Many of us were still in mourning and shock of probably the Bruins greatest team and one of the greatest Boston teams of my memory, losing to the underdog stinking Canadiens and Dryden. In the first round.
 

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Yes there was a real bad call in Game one where Knoblauch didn't touch the bag like game 4 I think.?? Two extra inning losses then a huge win with Pedro over Clemens in game 3. They could have been up 3 to 0. But shoulda coulda woulda. And that Yankee team was still great and could have come back from 3 to 0 so maybe thank God that didn't happen, LOL. But yes a few calls and breaks and they may have won that series.
He missed on tagging Offerman and the umps still called it a DP.
 

jaytftwofive

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Yes we can't forget about that blunder.
However Yaz said Houk was a very smart manager. The team was just mediocre for 2 years and not so good the others. I'm sure it was Sullivan or whoever was GM then that did the Tudor trade. (Pre-Gorman) I think. Yes Gorman took over in 84, so it was Sullivan.
 
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I thought that was at Fenway (game 4). I thought game 1 was in the 10th knoblauch dropping the throw at 2nd but still getting the out (ump ruled in the transfer, but even McCarver was like “that’s a terrible call”.) Then the next batter hit into a dp to end the inning, and then Bernie walked it off.
 

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Landis played for the Sox a week in August 67 after Tony C went down- they then picked up The Hawk and dumped him.
 

jaytftwofive

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I thought that was at Fenway (game 4). I thought game 1 was in the 10th knoblauch dropping the throw at 2nd but still getting the out (ump ruled in the transfer, but even McCarver was like “that’s a terrible call”.) Then the next batter hit into a dp to end the inning, and then Bernie walked it off.
OK the Offerman/Knoblauch was game 4. Knoblauch did miss the tag but the Umps ruled him out because they said he was out of the baseline and he wasn't. He just pulled away somewhat and Buck and McCarver said he wasn't out of the baseline. Jimi Williams went nuts and then the fans got ugly throwing stuff on the field. So our team got screwed on two bad calls.
 

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Eric Patterson. I had an old Facebook comment bitching about him show up in my Facebook memories today, and I literally had no idea who he is.
 

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I just watched a special on Ken "Hawk" Harrelson". When I said "The Hawk" I meant Andre Dawson. That was his nickname also, LOL. I think he played for Sox in 93 and 94 I forgot that was Harrelson's nickname, didn't think. Anyway Hawk Harrelson was and is a very colorful character. I was at the game In mid April 1969 against the Tribe the day they traded him or the day after. It was a Sunday and I remember walking up the aisles on the 3rd base side waving my arms chanting......."Don't Trade The HAWK!!!!!" Gerry Moses hit a grand slam I believe. Tony C is my favorite all time player(I was afraid he would replace Conig in right) but I still didn't think it was a good trade, but what did I know I was 11. He was quite a broadcaster, voted biggest homer of all time, and admits his faults like his temper. He also is embarrassed and laughs that he was the only GM to fire Tony La Russa in his 34 years of managing. Was anybody at that game in April 69 when Hawk was traded??
 
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Possibly mentioned earlier in this thread, but I had almost completely forgotten about Paul Byrd until I recently came across a random reference to him.
 

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And announcers, starting with Art Gleason and Jon Miller, who used to do a killer Sherm Feller imitation when he worked with Ken Coleman.
Of guys that are obscure from a broadcasting standpoint but I can honestly say I remember them:
Bill Crowley, later in the front office; Dave (not Ned) Martin, Bob Murphy (Mets), Bob Kurtz, Johnny Pesky*

* "fine young man" and "I had him at Columbus in 1968" (seemingly everyone in the world played for that Pirate AAA team)
 
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Anyone old enough to remember 1960 has likely forgotten much more important Red Sox than Tom Sturdivant
I am always hesitant to recall memories from the 1950's because I assume that there is a consensus on this board that Red Sox time begins in the early 60's and that to recall anything earlier would be regarded as antiquarian. I wonder how many other senior members feel the same way. Hell, I saw my first Sox game in 1949 and I just turned 80. There must be members who remember the war years - even the 1930's and the likes of Jim Tabor, Doc Cramer - even Lefty Grove.

Ageism among our (it seems) mostly woke group? Maybe there is a thread here.
 

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I am always hesitant to recall memories from the 1950's because I assume that there is a consensus on this board that Red Sox time begins in the early 60's and that to recall anything earlier would be regarded as antiquarian. I wonder how many other senior members feel the same way. Hell, I saw my first Sox game in 1949 and I just turned 80. There must be members who remember the war years - even the 1930's and the likes of Jim Tabor, Doc Cramer - even Lefty Grove.

Ageism among our (it seems) mostly woke group? Maybe there is a thread here.
Love hearing about the old days. My memories go back to 1965. My comment, above, was mostly a joke based on how my memory has disappeared of long ago events.
 

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I remember us frantically looking at his brother's social media account of him sitting at a table about to sign with the Sox.
Wasn't Bay a constant trade binky here for a couple of years before the trade? I think people just put the immediate post 07 seasons out of their mind for some reason, he was such a good player when he was here and they cut bait with him at the right time.
 

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The '06 team had a few weird ones. Mark Loretta, J.T. Snow, Javy Lopez (the catcher, though it also had Javier), Willie Harris
 

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The '06 team had a few weird ones. Mark Loretta, J.T. Snow, Javy Lopez (the catcher, though it also had Javier), Willie Harris
Loretta plus don't forget Alex Gonzales who I thought the Sox should have kept instead of getting Lugo. Defensively he was great, plus a clutch hit every now and then. Didn't that infield break a record for no errors until sometime in June?? Though they fell apart in late August that was a contending and different Red Sox team. Crisp, Gonzales and Loretta and others would take a walk, steal bunt the man to third and score on a sac fly. National announcers, ESPN etc.. would say......" these are the Red Sox"??? They played a lot of small ball that year and won some games that way. Very Un Red Sox like.
 
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Yup. My old man took me to that game for my birthday. We had good seats sort of behind the plate (we usually sat 1st base grandstand/infield ) One of the most hyped Fenway pitching match-ups I remember.

Blue was young phenom, off to a great start and was IIRC 10-1, and Seibert was 9-0. It wasn't the pitching gem as advertised but it was a pretty good game, and Seibert got the W.
I had good tix bought way in advance. I wanted to take the trolley from Brookline but each car that came by was full and didn't stop. Finally walked to the park. Yes, it was hyped.
 

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Has anyone mentioned the two sport player, Gene Conley? I vaguely remember he was a character. Has anyone got a good story?
 

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Has anyone mentioned the two sport player, Gene Conley? I vaguely remember he was a character. Has anyone got a good story?
Yes He played for the Celtics also. Plus he and Pumpsie Green after a bad loss and a few drinks decided to take a flight to Israel to find God. They stopped at the last minute. 1962, I believe.
 

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Yes He played for the Celtics also. Plus he and Pumpsie Green after a bad loss and a few drinks decided to take a flight to Israel to find God. They stopped at the last minute. 1962, I believe.
Also on the early 60s teams was Wilbur Wood, who did relatively little for the Sox, but went on to have at least a hall of very good career with the other Sox team (Pirates also failed to get much from him). He had BWARs of 11.7 and 10.7 in 1971 and 1972, respectively. 90 wins '71 through '74. I don't know if he was one of Tim Wakefield's advisers when Tim pitched as part of the knuckleballing fraternity where a lot of them take an interest in helping younger knuckleballers.
 

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I am always hesitant to recall memories from the 1950's because I assume that there is a consensus on this board that Red Sox time begins in the early 60's and that to recall anything earlier would be regarded as antiquarian. I wonder how many other senior members feel the same way. Hell, I saw my first Sox game in 1949 and I just turned 80. There must be members who remember the war years - even the 1930's and the likes of Jim Tabor, Doc Cramer - even Lefty Grove.

Ageism among our (it seems) mostly woke group? Maybe there is a thread here.
I know I'm not the only one here who'd love to hear more tales from that time. Do you have memories of '49's final fateful weekend?
You're right, could be time to bust out a new thread on way back in the day.