2018 NFL Game Thread - Week 5

Euclis20

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Yeah that play looks bad, but three things:

-The contact occurred clearly after the ball was in the air, so PI only, no holding or illegal contact
-The ball was significantly overthrown, there was no chance the receiver would have been even close to the ball
-If the ball is uncatchable, there is no PI.

Maybe if Mayfield didn't overthrow his receiver by 20 yards something good would've happened. Good call.
 

Mystic Merlin

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Ball was in the air when the big hit happened, so it’s either DPI or no call.

The other DB was riding the receiver past 5 yards, so they could’ve called illegal contact for that, but I’ll bet that gets ignored 90% of the time in a late-game situation like that.
My issue was the latter, Landry was getting mugged throughout the route. I'm not sure I agree that it gets ignored "90% of the time in a late-game situation like that", or why that should matter.
 

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Yeah that play looks bad, but three things:

-The contact occurred clearly after the ball was in the air, so PI only, no holding or illegal contact
-The ball was significantly overthrown, there was no chance the receiver would have been even close to the ball
-If the ball is uncatchable, there is no PI.

Maybe if Mayfield didn't overthrow his receiver by 20 yards something good would've happened.
But... If there had been no tackle he MAY have been able to come close enough to garner a PI call.
 

curly2

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No way McCaffrey got the first down. Fox even had the graphic saying 4th and 1. Panthers got a gift, and the Giants got screwed.
 

Byrdbrain

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The replay in Cle does suggest the ball was in air, so holding/illegal contact can't be made.

Still a horrible call, you can't call uncatchable when you prevent the receiver from getting anywhere near end of pattern, IMO...there's just no way to be sure.

Steratore is horrible as a "Rules analyst" all he seems to be doing is trying out for the gig of being the NFL's prime excuse-making "Supervisor of Referees"
I just rewound to be sure and the ball landed well out of bounds so there was no way it was catchable even if he wasn't tackled.
I agree it's messed up but I think in that situation it's the right call per the way the rules are written.
 

Deathofthebambino

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Why is Cleveland letting the clock run, so they can leave this to their kicking game? Have they not fucking had enough depressing kicking issues for one season? They had two timeouts, and a minute to go, with the ball around the 30, and just ran 3 times.
 

Jed Zeppelin

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OH MY GOD HUE WHY ARE YOU PRESRVING CLOCK

Edit: just to be clear I obviously meant the opposite in my severe agitation over what I was seeing.
 

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Ugly kick but got the job done for Cleveland.

Baker Mayfield looking pretty legit thus far
 

PedroKsBambino

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I just rewound to be sure and the ball landed well out of bounds so there was no way it was catchable even if he wasn't tackled.
I agree it's messed up but I think in that situation it's the right call per the way the rules are written.
Yes, but what's hard on a replay like that is that the receiver has a catch radius of, what, 8 plus feet at the sideline? So it's really, really tough to assess whether contact was possible when you tackle the guy that far upfield. I don't think he could have gotten down there enough, but it's just not clear given the replays I saw....and as I understand the rule when that's the case you have to throw the flag, because the defense bears the risk that the throw can't be assessed.

As others noted, there was also a ton of contact prior to the tackle, so it's another reason to question the overall officiating of the play. But in the end, irrelevant...
 

curly2

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Wouldn't they have just kicked the FG from, like, the same exact spot?

They weren't going to run out of time.
With the field goal team having to sprint on the field and get set really quickly to get the kick off, it would have been a lot tougher, especially since it was a 63-yarder, and everything had to go perfectly.
 

Jed Zeppelin

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Browns need to be smart about their situation. They have a bunch of talent now but Hue is really bad. Can’t keep him around just because he doubles their win total from the last three years or whatever. Running the clock down there was absurd.