2014 Eagles: Chip Chip Chipadelphia

[dcmissle]

Interesting to me that Lurie is described as both a lifelong friend of Banner and intensely loyal to Roseman. Firing Banner must have taken a lot. Kicking Roseman upstairs could not have been easy either. Too bad these people could not have worked together, but acceding to Kelly strikes me as the right choice.

 

[Average Reds]

Interesting to me that Lurie is described as both a lifelong friend of Banner and intensely loyal to Roseman. Firing Banner must have taken a lot. Kicking Roseman upstairs could not have been easy either. Too bad these people could not have worked together, but acceding to Kelly strikes me as the right choice.

Not sure you have the right guy here.

Joe Banner was/is a lifelong friend of Lurie, but he is not involved in any of this.

Tom Gamble is the exec who was fired by Roseman. His firing was essentially an act of petulance to put Kelly in his place and it backfired on Roseman.

Joe Banner left the organization several years ago to join the Browns.

 

[dcmissle]

Not sure you have the right guy here.

Joe Banner was/is a lifelong friend of Lurie, but he is not involved in any of this.

Tom Gamble is the exec who was fired by Roseman. His firing was essentially an act of petulance to put Kelly in his place and it backfired on Roseman.

Joe Banner left the organization several years ago to join the Browns.

You are right. My bad. I confused the two.

 

[Sportsbstn]

Before Foles got hurt, he was not a very good QB, quite mediocre.    It will be interesting to see how Kelly handles it, because I am not sure Kelly truly believes in Foles.   

 

[Average Reds]

Before Foles got hurt, he was not a very good QB, quite mediocre.    It will be interesting to see how Kelly handles it, because I am not sure Kelly truly believes in Foles.   

Would not shock me to see Kelly draft a QB to push Foles.

 

[Bosoxen]

Do they have the cojones to trade up for Mariota? The thought of him running the Philly offense scares the bejeezus out of me.

 

[Shelterdog]

Do they have the cojones to trade up for Mariota? The thought of him running the Philly offense scares the bejeezus out of me.

They pick so late they'd need to trade something like their top two picks each of the next three years.

 

[Bosoxen]

Which is why I phrased the question that way. The haul it would take to get high enough would put the Ricky Williams draft trade to shame.

 

[DanoooME]

Before Foles got hurt, he was not a very good QB, quite mediocre.    It will be interesting to see how Kelly handles it, because I am not sure Kelly truly believes in Foles.   

 
Can we really say that for sure though?  He had one tremendous year and one Sanchez-esque year behind an offensive line that was Swiss cheese at the time he was playing.  I think he's somewhere in the middle, which makes him a little above average in my estimation.

 

[LondonSox]

I seriously doubt they could move up from 20 to the top.
If he slips, bad workouts, gets hurt at combine that kind of thing then absolutely could think of them making a move but it's not happening to get to the top.
The only possibility is if someone high up believes in Foles, and thinks he's a better bet than a rookie and could extend him now before he's proven etc. That seems unlikely.
 
The Eagles have a pretty good situation. They need long term replacements for the o-line, and Ryans but next year they are pretty good to go for starters for the the oline, WR (assuming Maclin stays), RB front 7 for the d (bar one outside linebacker). They need a QB and 3 secondary pieces. But they have cap space. IF they think they can fill the QB issue with some move then they could.
 
Everything I see from Kelly suggests draft wise anything is possible. He likes who he likes and we could see some Belichick draft picks, a WHO? or REACH?! But he hasn't got the track record to shrug and ignore it yet.
 
BTW the latest nugget is that Kelly wanted Jordan Matthews in the 1st and Roseman persuaded him to wait for the second. Which doesn't suggest Kelly was screaming for MArcus Smith II (good) but again shows he might not get the value side. That said the kid has been great so... if he had been a late first round pick would anyone have argued? Now anyway. 

 

[lambeau]

Herm Edwards was saying yesterday Lovie Smith could build a defense with the slew of picks Chip would have to give him for Mariota. The Value Chart suggests picks 1-5 each of the next two years would be fair--unless the Eagles make the playoffs next year.

 

[Morgan's Magic Snowplow]

All the mocks have him at the top but I'm far from convinced that Mariota goes top three. He's not a great fit for Tampa or Tenn because (a) he's going to be more of a project than an NFL ready guy and both Lovie and Whisenhunt don't have a lot of time to wait around and (b) he's going to be most successful in an offense tailored to his skills, that uses some spread concepts and read option stuff, but Lovie and Whiz aren't known for thinking outside the box. TB did just interview Greg Roman for their OC position and if they hire him it's a pretty strong sign that they're leaning Mariota. But otherwise I can easily see one of them drafting Winston and the other just passing on the QB position and taking a guy like Leonard Williams or Randy Gregory instead. And Jax isn't taking a QB.

If Mariota is there at #4 and Philly offers Oakland this years #1, a 4th, and next years #1, I'm not sure Oakland can say no. They have a lot of holes to fill.

 

[LondonSox]

I think the Eagles would do that in a heartbeat, the Eagles will fancy themselves a playoff team next year. That said that package is significantly light vs what Washington paid to move up a lot less for RGIII. I don't think that would be enough.
I don't know if Mariota is THE guy but if Kelly does and he slips I could see it, but I don't think they can get into the top few picks.
 
The wildcard would be if they were willing to move McCoy, he has a big cap number and while I love the guy and think he's a great fit for the system Kelly every back they've put in there has done well and it's a LOT easier to find a RB than a QB. Kelly was sniffing around Spiller etc last year.
I don't know Shady with that contract has a lot of value though. You never know with a raiders team though!
 
Basically I think it's a long shot, but if one of the top guys starts to slip, and Winston could easily I'd expect the eagles to be aggressive. I haven't looked at the secondary options for the draft yet though.
 
Man last year GB jumped up unexpectedly to take HA HA Clinton-Dix, the Eagles were all set to grab him next pick, and instead of a giant potential bust in Marcus Smith II they'd just need corners. UGH