Kremlin Watcher said:Fired. Meh. Whatever.
I was referring to his departure from Arkansas, not Atlanta.soxfan121 said:
Nope. He quit on a 3-10 team on Monday, December 10th with a four-sentence note he had laminated and put in every player's locker. Less than 24 hours after telling Arthur Blank and Rich McKay he was "going nowhere".
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/13/sports/football/13falcons.html?_r=1&
Bobby Petrino is a colossal dickhead, for many other reasons, and I'm sorry for derailing the Michigan thread with a factual correction.
Back to looking for a coach.
Zososoxfan said:I think Devin will be picked in the 3rd or 4th round. He's a little too risky for a 1st or 2nd round pick, despite the skills and upside. High third would be my guess, but I wouldn't be surprised anywhere from low 2nd to mid 4th.
Supporting Zo's line of thinking, my position on Funchess:Zososoxfan said:I think Devin will be picked in the 3rd or 4th round. He's a little too risky for a 1st or 2nd round pick, despite the skills and upside. High third would be my guess, but I wouldn't be surprised anywhere from low 2nd to mid 4th.
Kremlin Watcher said:
I have no idea what will happen and don't have a dog in this fight, but there are a lot of precedents for pro coaches enjoying success at the college level.
Examples of NFL coaches moving to a college job:
Pete Carroll - NY Jets to USC - successful
Dan Devine - Green Bay to Notre Dame - successful
Jim Mora - Seahawks to UCLA - successful
Bobby Petrino - Atlanta to Arkansas - started slow but was building success before he had to quit
Steve Spurrier - Washington to South Carolina - successful
Bill Walsh II - San Francisco to Stanford - successful
Bill Walsh I - San Diego (assistant) to Stanford - not a huge success, but obviously his move back to the NFL was
Joe Walton - NY Jets to Robert Morris - successful although it's such a small program that isn't probably not a good comp
Bill O'Brien - New England OC to Penn State - incomplete grade due to sanctions
Butch Davis - Cleveland to North Carolina - raised the program's profile but major NCAA infractions
Nick Saban - Miami to Alabama - complete and total failure
REMAIN CALM. I am now getting some chatter to the effect that Harbaugh is coming, pending t-crossing and i-dotting. None of it is from a source I would consider rock solid, and all of it comes with an ominous "barring a last second change of heart" disclaimer. Please remain calm.
It feels like warranted optimism transforming itself into e-fact via a game of telephone—I can confidently say that there are people close to the situation who think it is happening, some of them very strongly. Whether they're right is another matter. Harbaugh may get NFL offers that change the equation. Right now Michigan can talk to him all they want; NFL teams would get hit with accusations of tampering if they did so. Everyone, including Harbaugh, is working with incomplete information.
One of the things I really love about Harbaugh is that he's not Les Miles.tims4wins said:No doubt that Harbaugh is a good coach and will probably bring Michigan back to a national power. And I will probably root for the laundry. But I really cannot stand him as an NFL coach and as such I probably wouldn't be able to enjoy any success quite as much. Just my own .02. YMMV.
twibnotes said:One of the things I really love about Harbaugh is that he's not Les Miles.
I just can't see Miles being successful at Michigan.
bowiac said:I assume everyone here reads MGoBlog, but just in case they don't...:
I know this is couched with all the necessary disclaimers, but since Cook is seemingly the only person saying positive things about Michigan's chances, he's going out on a bit of a limb here. My head tells me the lone voice guy is probably wrong, no matter how much I like him, but it's hard not to get my hopes up.
If it doesn't happen of course, gonna be hard not to be a bit pissed at Cook.
I want to believe the good rumors, but I was hearing them four years ago from people with solid inside connections. This feels like one of those situations when you can't believe it until it's 100 pctEric1984 said:
A fellow alum I know who's about 10 years older than me and a lot more connected than I am claims "it looks good" based on what he calls reliable sources. Of course I don't know who these sources are, so i wouldn't know what to make of it.
I can be as cynical as the next guy but cmon...Chemistry Schmemistry said:And part of me says someone at Michigan really pissed him off and he knows perfectly well what waiting to hire a coach will do to this year's recruiting class if he's not there, not to mention the national perception of the clusterfuck that's been Michigan sports these days.
twibnotes said:I can be as cynical as the next guy but cmon...
The more I read about him, the more I think Jed York is the 49ers' Woody Johnson.Sille Skrub said:Congrats to the Michigan men of SoSH. Outstanding hire. I'll never understand how/why the 49ers let Harbaugh get away.
And some moretwibnotes said:More assertions from NFL media that this isn't done yet.
http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24919491/raiders-still-plan-to-approach-the-49ers-about-jim-harbaugh-on-monday
Yup.twibnotes said:More assertions from NFL media that this isn't done yet.
http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24919491/raiders-still-plan-to-approach-the-49ers-about-jim-harbaugh-on-monday
Given the leaking from the front office over the past 8 months or so about how they want Harbaugh out, there's no way the 49ers are getting any significant compensation if Harbaugh goes to the college ranks. They will either let him out of his contract or they risk being stuck with him.Dick Pole Upside said:
- Harbaugh negotiate contract settlement with SF
- Michigan negotiate compensation with SF
- Harbaugh finalize contract with Michigan
Three separate agreements (my conjecture) need to be executed in some order.
Rapoport, Schefter, LaCanfora et al simply don't have the sources to close the loop on all three of these moving pieces.
Of course Harbaugh isn't going to announce anything prior to his formal exit from the 49ers. That won't occur until sometime after the conclusion of his game today. So all the NFL media dipshits will leave their positions open for more clicks.
Michigan insiders (that have proven reliable thus far) have been indicating that a verbal between Harbaugh and Michigan has been in place for at least 10 days. SF FO has openly indicated that they have been in touch with Michigan, so I think item #2 has been agreed to in pricinciple for several days as well.
Despite all the caterwauling from the media and the Oakland FO saying they haven't been told they are out of it yet (makes me shiver because it harkens Cherington's identical quote about the Sox and Lester), the latest from insiders this morning is that all three of the items listed above have been completed.
Rumor is that DJ Durkin (Harbaugh's DL coach at Stanford and current DC at Florida) will be coming to AA as DC.
Arrangements being made for Tuesday presser... unveiling at BBall game... blah blah blah.
Hackett deserves tremendous credit when this gets pushed across the goal line.
This is not new news. ESPN is at least a week behind as are all of the national media guys. It's been embarrassing how poor their reporting has been regarding Harbaugh. People closer to the program have been talking about this for some time. I'm not ripping you, Red. I just think that you posting this now shows how poor the national media has been in reporting this and how slow they've been to getting up to speed. Those of us plugged in or listening to the Michigan side of things have heard the Woodson/Brady thing a while ago.RedOctober3829 said:SportsCenter said alums put a full court press for Harbaugh. Included on that was both Charles Woodson and Tom Brady.
As is usually the case, local media people are going to have these things before national guys do. No one is going to confirm that Harbaugh is taking another job until the previous one is done. It's the ethical thing to do. The local guys want to make a name for themselves and will put themselves out there before things are official. National guys don't need to do that.sachmoney said:This is not new news. ESPN is at least a week behind as are all of the national media guys. It's been embarrassing how poor their reporting has been regarding Harbaugh. People closer to the program have been talking about this for some time. I'm not ripping you, Red. I just think that you posting this now shows how poor the national media has been in reporting this and how slow they've been to getting up to speed. Those of us plugged in or listening to the Michigan side of things have heard the Woodson/Brady thing a while ago.
Yeah, I'm salty and petty at guys like Rapoport, La Confora, and co.
EDIT: Like 90% of the stuff the NFL media "reported" was straight from agents.
National guys weren't reporting anything. They were sound boards for agents. We were rumored with Sean Payton and Jason Garrett? We were reportedly turned down by David Cutcliffe? All of this stuff came from NFL guys. The shift in reporting over the last four days has been incredible and these dudes are tripping over themselves to back track. The local guys, in this case, were doing their due diligence. There weren't guys who were jumping to say Harbaugh was coming to Michigan, but they were doing their due diligence and also filtering the various reports from other folks.RedOctober3829 said:As is usually the case, local media people are going to have these things before national guys do. No one is going to confirm that Harbaugh is taking another job until the previous one is done. It's the ethical thing to do. The local guys want to make a name for themselves and will put themselves out there before things are official. National guys don't need to do that.
Bullshit -- there's no ethical obligation to keep a story under wraps, lest it cause discomfort for the subject of the story. If anything, the opposite is true.RedOctober3829 said:As is usually the case, local media people are going to have these things before national guys do. No one is going to confirm that Harbaugh is taking another job until the previous one is done. It's the ethical thing to do. The local guys want to make a name for themselves and will put themselves out there before things are official. National guys don't need to do that.