There goes soxfan's joke about a trade to the Browns after week 4. If there was any chance of that, now he is here for the season and that is probably a good thing.So ends Jimmy's NE career? Enough tape to entice a gm for a first and a second?
There's no way a FA starts on Thursday. None. And at that point it's only 1 more week til Brady is back. Bring in a backup, pay him for 2 games, then move on.so do we go "in house" with Brissett or go to the FA route....
Ink would still be wet when the NFL announces that they made a mistake, and have re-opened the investigation into the Manning HGH allegations.Maybe sign Manning?
Yikes. Out of the group, Flynn was in NE camp so most likely the one who gets signed.Here's a quick list of available QBs - http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/2016/quarterback/
"Best" options look to be, um, TJ Yates, Jimmy Clausen and Matt Flynn. Oh, Ryan Lindley is there too.
Patriots game plan won't let him be a disaster. It's going to be pretty vanilla.Brissett will start both games unless he is a disaster. A FA will be brought in to back him up.
This would be the most epic troll of all time and I for one, would love it. Mouthbreathing NFL fans everywhere would short-circuit due to cognitive dissonance.Maybe sign Manning?
Could people stop with that nonsense. This is the Jimmy G injury thread. If you want to talk about the same tired topic of trading Jimmy knock yourself out by starting a new thread. Let' keep things on point here. Plus no team is going to trade anything for an injured Qb. The trade topic is for another time.So ends Jimmy's NE career? Enough tape to entice a gm for a first and a second?
I think it's valid to wonder about his trade value, if only for the offseason.Could people stop with that nonsense. This is the Jimmy G injury thread. If you want to talk about the same tired topic of trading Jimmy knock yourself out by starting a new thread. Let' keep things on point here. Plus no team is going to trade anything for an injured Qb. The trade topic is for another time.
It's definitely an odd situation.So now what do you do with Jimmy if he's out 6-8 weeks? IR and use the return on him or just ride yet another man down for a while? I know he's proved to be quite valuable, but I'd rather avoid using the return on someone who probably won't play a meaningful snap. I think I'd play another man short and hope for the best.
Radiographs would be primarily for the clavicle, no.....? (IIRC something DRS alluded to)X-rays were negative and showed no break.
ESPN: Cheating Pats cheat again by signing Cheater!!!Ink would still be wet when the NFL announces that they made a mistake, and have re-opened the investigation into the Manning HGH allegations.
Coming at it from a position of 100% cynicism, it would make sense to do whatever possible to get Jimmy on the field for week 4 figuring you won't need him for some time afterwards (barring injury to Brady).Depending on how inflamed the area is and Garoppolo's level of pain tolerance, he may be able to get back in the lineup. AC joint injuries, it was pointed out, can be injected with painkillers and managed if a player gets close enough to a tolerable level of pain.
Channeling Jim Otto, Mike Webster, Darryl Green football.
There's no way I rush JG back. He needs to be at 100% if Brady goes down later in the season. JB will learn a few plays for Thursday and a few more for Buffalo - maybe he pulls off a win, maybe not. I'll take 2-2 with the league's best QB tandem healthy, and I'm giddy at 3-1.
Prob had shoulder, chest films, possibly humerus as well depending on his physical exam. No dedicated clavicle films usually - although advanced imaging (CT/MR) can be used to look for an occult fx - rare in my experience. The clavicle is well visualized on an AP chest and a shoulder series. Usually that's all you need to see the clavicle and you can assess for other potential injuries...like a pneumothoraxRadiographs would be primarily for the clavicle, no.....? (IIRC something DRS alluded to)
He's busy playing for the Mets minor league system.Spent a preseason with the team? CHECK.
Knows McDaniels's system/terminology? CHECK.
Readily available and waiting by the phone for just this situation? CHECK.
Would allow Belichick to run the wishbone if he had to play because of an injury to Brissett? CHECK-PLUS.
"I'm happy to be able to help out Coach Belichick and the Patriots for a few weeks."
If the Pats get down to the fourth-string QB, they're probably talking about a pseudo-college run offense anyway ... so why the hell not?Spent a preseason with the team? CHECK.
Knows McDaniels's system/terminology? CHECK.
Readily available and waiting by the phone for just this situation? CHECK.
Would allow Belichick to run the wishbone if he had to play because of an injury to Brissett? CHECK-PLUS.
"I'm happy to be able to help out Coach Belichick and the Patriots for a few weeks."
Tebow in a recent interview basically said he was not too keen on adopting another position due to concussion concerns. Given that, I doubt he could help any team.I never was a big Tebow fan but that guy should be in the NFL in some capacity. He's a stud. Maybe not an NFL QB but I firmly believe he could help a team.
Can't disagree here.If the Pats get down to the fourth-string QB, they're probably talking about a pseudo-college run offense anyway ... so why the hell not?
Big Ben played the week he had the same injury last year.Coming at it from a position of 100% cynicism, it would make sense to do whatever possible to get Jimmy on the field for week 4 figuring you won't need him for some time afterwards (barring injury to Brady).
Ooooooh. Nothing gets my bonsai tree grow more than the magical phrase, "start a new thread."Could people stop with that nonsense. This is the Jimmy G injury thread. If you want to talk about the same tired topic of trading Jimmy knock yourself out by starting a new thread. Let' keep things on point here. Plus no team is going to trade anything for an injured Qb. The trade topic is for another time.
It's valid, on a new thread.I think it's valid to wonder about his trade value, if only for the offseason.
And if I recall correctly, he was not very effective. And he was highly experienced. Plus he is Ben -- losing a mouthful of teeth in a motorcycle accident was no big deal.Big Ben played the week he had the same injury last year.
Woudn't vanilla equate to somewhat of a disaster when the defense knows that vanilla is coming? There is no way we don't incorporate some misdirection or creative play calling into the game plan......otherwise a disaster would be looming.Patriots game plan won't let him be a disaster. It's going to be pretty vanilla.
I think I would rather have Brett Farve's dick pic QB the team then the corpse of PeytonManning could actually learn the playbook by Thursday---he probably already basically knows the concepts.
Could you even imagine?
But no....it'll be Flynn or Stanzi backing up Jacoby Thursday.
Someone's going to have to get cut anyway when Brady comes back. Derby I suppose.Wither AJ Derby, right? If he is inactive every week with Gronk not playing then he is likely the low man on the roster. Someone has to go to make room for another QB, good odds on it being Derby.
He certainly gets it done with the short game.I think I would rather have Brett Farve's dick pic QB the team then the corpse of Peyton
You probably just leave him on the roster.So now what do you do with Jimmy if he's out 6-8 weeks? IR and use the return on him or just ride yet another man down for a while? I know he's proved to be quite valuable, but I'd rather avoid using the return on someone who probably won't play a meaningful snap. I think I'd play another man short and hope for the best.
To clarify, I mean keep him on the roster.
Kinda funny that the most sensible and scientifically valid position I've heard on this is coming from Tebow of all people.Tebow in a recent interview basically said he was not too keen on adopting another position due to concussion concerns. Given that, I doubt he could help any team.
They ran the classic Gary Kubiak "fake zone stretch one way, bootleg back the other way and throw to the tight end" play at least a couple times today, both with Garoppolo and Brissett. That's the sort of thing that's not like a trick play per se but not exactly vanilla either. It's a good complement to the run game (especially if the D overpursues the stretch), but it's a pretty easy defined read for the QB.I think the game plan is going to look similar to an early 2001 Brady gameplan with maybe a little in there to use his mobility and athleticism. Lots of screens, simple reads, a heavy reliance on the running game with the most likely path to victory coming from strong special teams and defense.
Gronk back would be real nice, can run some creative TE screens that are young QB friendly.
He came back in the same game to lead his team on the game winning drive and went 24/37 for 339 the next week.And if I recall correctly, he was not very effective. And he was highly experienced. Plus he is Ben -- losing a mouthful of teeth in a motorcycle accident was no big deal.
Jeff Howe @jeffphowe 2m2 minutes ago
Good news for Garoppolo. His shoulder isn't as bad as initially believed. It's a sprained AC joint. Still out Thursday, per sources.