I'm not going to get into a Tannehill debate, but I will say this: he wasn't the problem last year. He ran a dumbed down college scheme that worked for one year. His line at one point consisted of Jamil Douglas snapping balls over his head, Jason Fox who would either get beat or hold his man every other play, and The Dallas Thomas Turnstyle Experience.Grier was quoted that they had him as #2 player on their board. They had heard rumors of the video and said it was two years old.
I think you are right re: the o-line
I think you are wrong about the offense considering the QB is still Tannehill. He could be given 30 seconds every time and he'd still get sacked 40 times a year
yes...they need to address LB, DE and CB at the minimum. the offense is largely set, now except at RB. Tannehill, Ajayi, Landry, Parker, Stills, Cameron, the five o-linemen above with decent depth (hazel the 4th WR?)I'm far more concerned about the defense than the offense right now.
Also, just to put a bow on the first round, for the 8th overall pick, Miami got Kiko Alonso, Byron Maxwell, and Laremy Tunsil. Wow.
My thought as well. Giants missed out on Floyd from Georgia, I don't think they pass on Jack. Heck, he might not make it beyond Jacksonville or Baltimore either.Jack seems like the right guy for a team with a 2-3 year window (i.e. high risk he won't play much after that) so I'm surprised he made it through the 20's. Not sure he'll make it past the Giants again.
Makes sense long term, but can Miami stick with Albert & James all season?For now, their plan is to use Tunsil at guard, assuming left tackle Branden Albert and right tackle Ja’Wuan James stay healthy. That’s not safe to assume though, and Tunsil will ostensibly take over for the 31-year-old Albert at some point.
This is all stemming from Armando Salguero's speculation. Dude is basically guessing and people are quoting it as a reliable source. Is it possible? Sure. Albert played guard in college. He can probably benefit from a move inside and would allow him to play at a high level for longer.So Phins will put Tunsil at... guard???
Makes sense long term, but can Miami stick with Albert & James all season?
I couldn't agree more. Armando's speculation right now isn't worth shit. Is guard possible? Sure, but not anymore than LT at this point.This is all stemming from Armando Salguero's speculation. Dude is basically guessing and people are quoting it as a reliable source. Is it possible? Sure. Albert played guard in college. He can probably benefit from a move inside and would allow him to play at a high level for longer.
I'm sure they mix and match a bit in training camp, but I think Tunsil is the starting LT.
This dude's legit. Moving Albert inside not only extends his career, but it's also more likely to keep him healthy for the season. Will he be overpaid? Absolutely. But he's the perfect guy to put on Tunsil's hip this kid; someone who can mentor a young kid who's made some questionable off the field decisions as a young adult. The primary concern? Albert getting butt-hurt over the move.• ESPN’s Todd McShay: “Tunsil's ceiling is sky high. He has the natural ability to play at a Pro Bowl level for a long time.”
• Pro Football Focus’ draft guide notes Tunsil “faced the toughest slate of edge rushers of anyone in the country and yielded” no sacks and just five pressures in 185 pass blocking snaps. PFF says Tunsil is "the cleanest tackle to come out of college in some time. Tunsil simply looks different than your average tackle in the NFL.”
Same guy admitted taking money from his coaches on the same day.Holy shit!!!!
I cannot believe they got Tunsil. The video seems to be a few years old. Maybe the first time I've ever believed a guy when he says his account got hacked.
My guess is Albert moves inside to LG and Tunsil takes over at LT. Moving to LG might extend Alberts career an extra year or two, and Tunsil is the heir apparent anyways.
Tunsil-Albert-Pouncey-Turner-James
Wow. If they can keep those guys heathy, it might be a big year for the offense.
Agreed. Albert seems very much like a team-first kind of guy. He already came back from his devastating knee injury and made the Pro Bowl at LT last year. He doesn't really have anything to "prove" in that regard. I think he can be easily sold on moving to guard and mentoring Tunsil. It's a mutually beneficial move and the line gets greatly improved Week 1.This dude's legit. Moving Albert inside not only extends his career, but it's also more likely to keep him healthy for the season. Will he be overpaid? Absolutely. But he's the perfect guy to put on Tunsil's hip this kid; someone who can mentor a young kid who's made some questionable off the field decisions as a young adult. The primary concern? Albert getting butt-hurt over the move.
I think anyone on an NFL field is at risk of injury, regardless of position. I am unaware of any study or opinion that says playing guard makes someone less likely to be injured. I'd be interested in such a study or data that suggests that, though.SF121,
Perhaps it's inaccurate, but it was my assumption that facing a team's best pass rusher every week is typically a lot more physically taxing than lining up on the interior.
Are you aware of the rule regarding the NFL's drug program? I am not; however, I read that because the Tunsil video was made 2 years ago, he wouldn't have to enroll. I'm going to see what I can find on that.
Regardless of whether or not the NFL uses their discretion and places him in the drug program for something he did in college several years ago, he's never failed a drug test. He passed the one at the combine, he passed the ones in college. He's at least smart enough to know that he can't fail drug tests if he wants to play.However, if he doesn't get entered into the program AND subsequently gets pulled over with drugs... that probably helps Josh Gordon & others who are suing the program. So it is highly likely the video (alone) qualifies Tunsil for the program - if only so the NFL & NFLPA are covered legally.
I get the "Don't snitch" angle, but as a Dolphin fan who doesn't care about Ole Miss, I kind of saw that moment as a small positive...Same guy admitted taking money from his coaches on the same day.
This could be the best pick of the 2016 draft or the worst. And I think we'll know in under 2 years.
Agreed, and at that point, being honest was probably his best move. They asked him if he was in the video, he said yes. They asked if those were his texts asking for money, he said yes. It might suck for Ole Miss, but Tunsil did the right thing by coming clean. Once training camp starts, no one will be thinking about the video if he's pasting lineman and linebackers other than to think how fortunate it was that Miami managed to get him at 13.I get the "Don't snitch" angle, but as a Dolphin fan who doesn't care about Ole Miss, I kind of saw that moment as a small positive...
I totally read that as him trying to live up to the good, honest guy he just told everyone that he was. I read it as him trying to defer it, but when it came back up he blurted out the truth so he wasn't now a liar in an effort to avoid "liar" to the resume of negatives that was beginning to pile up.
It was a no win situation, and really I don't blame the kid who was in the unthinkable situation, they could have shielded him better in that moment considering the unique circumstances.
You may well be correct.Regardless of whether or not the NFL uses their discretion and places him in the drug program for something he did in college several years ago, he's never failed a drug test. He passed the one at the combine, he passed the ones in college. He's at least smart enough to know that he can't fail drug tests if he wants to play.
It isn't a huge secret that players need to be clean from about April until whenever it is their random annual screening is in the offseason. By all accounts, it isn't difficult to find out when your screening is and when you need to be clean. It's just a matter of are you smart enough, or do you care enough about football to not test positive, or do you not give a shit/are you an addict like Dion Jordan? I'm guessing Tunsil is the former and not the latter.
Also, the league said Noah Spence won't be entered into the drug program, despite being kicked out of Ohio State for failed drug tests. I find it hard to believe that they put Tunsil in Stage 1 for a video of unknown date and origin.
The Miami Dolphins: brought to you by Season 2 of Ballers on HBO.Can't make this up
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 17s17 seconds ago
Dolphins said Laremy Tunsil had an allergic reaction and will not be appearing at today's previously scheduled press conference.
Just to clarify, that could totally be made up.Can't make this up
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 17s17 seconds ago
Dolphins said Laremy Tunsil had an allergic reaction and will not be appearing at today's previously scheduled press conference.
Wouldn't any team getting four starters out of their top four picks in the draft be "a major home run"? How likely is that to happen?I'd say they should lean defense with remaining picks, but I like what they've done. In three years, if Tunsil is the starting LT, Howard is a starting CB, Drake is a successful partner in the backfield with Ajayi, and Caroo is a starter, this draft is a major home run.
Signed,Below is the career fumble rate for running back prospects in the 2016 NFL Draft class, starting with the highest (worst).
39.9 – Kenyan Drake, Alabama
43.3 – Alex Collins, Arkansas
44.0 – Daniel Lasco, California
45.6 – C.J. Prosise, Notre Dame
61.2 – Josh Ferguson, Illinois
61.6 – Wendell Smallwood, West Virginia
63.5 – Kenneth Dixon, Louisiana Tech
63.8 – Tre Madden, USC
71.1 – Devontae Booker, Utah
72.0 – Jonathan Williams, Arkansas
104.1 – DeAndre Washington, Texas Tech
111.8 – Jordan Howard, Indiana
123.0 – Tyler Ervin, San Jose State
123.8 – Derrick Henry, Alabama
128.8 – Tra Carson, Texas A&M
138.5 – Keith Marshall, Georgia
140.4 – Paul Perkins, UCLA
162.5 – Ezekiel Elliott, Ohio State
169.7 – Aaron Green, TCU
Kelvin Taylor, Florida (no fumbles in college)
That's where I'm at as well. I think he would struggle in off man or cover 2. He's going to be in a system that will allow him to do what he does best. Joseph is highly regarded as a developer of DB talent. Miami brought Howard in pre-draft and traded up to get him. This was clearly a case of them getting their guy, the guy they thought would best fit their scheme. Is Alexander a better prospect? Probably. They felt like Howard was going to be the better fit.I'd probably question the Xavien pick a lot more if Vance Joseph wasn't Miami's defensive coordinator. Howard was clearly his choice, so it's one of those situations that you trust the staff to coach e'm up accordingly. You definitely see the flashes on tape and in press, short coverage, and jump ball opportunities, but he needs more consistency. As was mentioned, also, he has a tendency to get beat deep. Personality wise, he appears to be a tough, motivated kid.
I think that's the key.That's where I'm at as well. I think he would struggle in off man or cover 2. He's going to be in a system that will allow him to do what he does best. Joseph is highly regarded as a developer of DB talent. Miami brought Howard in pre-draft and traded up to get him. This was clearly a case of them getting their guy, the guy they thought would best fit their scheme. Is Alexander a better prospect? Probably. They felt like Howard was going to be the better fit.
It seems like they drafted him specifically as a return man. Anything they get out of him as a receiver is a bonus. Guy said he was pissed when he ran a 4.3. He's been hand timed at 4.1. Like you said, you can't coach 4.1.The Grant pick is the first one that is a bit baffling, especially since they just drafted Drake and Carroo.
Admittedly though I haven't been paying too close attention to know how Grant's value related to other players on the board.
Maybe it shouldn't be a complete surprise though, because it does seem to keep with the theme of this draft, as Grant is another guy with abilities that you can't coach. In Grant's case it's the ridiculous raw speed and play-making ability (at least on the college level).