2017-18 NBA Regular Season Game/Observation Thread
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Magic have lost 9 straight. Could be another team to add to the mix for the 5th spot at this rate. Pacers continue to look legit. Sabonis, Turner and Odalipo is a nice core.
More silliness with +/-
Embiid 30/11 for a -23
Covington 1-11 with 3 TO's.....-7
Then there is Yogi Ferrell for Dallas. In 13 min, 0-4 with 3 TO's and a couple fouls......good for a +15.
Seems like Derrick Rose's decision to walk the earth like Caine in Kung Fu has been a big addition by subtraction, which should not have been surprising given that Rose is an awful basketball player. (IIRC, as soon as the Cavs got Wade, I wrote "they should cut Rose right now.")
At the same time: before tonight's (solid) victory in Philly, the Cavs were ranked #29 in the league in defense, and #15 overall by SRS (which factors in point differential and strength of schedule), so I'm not sure I would start buying their stock just yet.
Also: the #9 ranked 3fg% team in the league (37.5%) shooting 3-28 from three does not happen every day. Sorry London Sox, I was pulling for you...
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And Kings best the Curryless, KDless Warriors 110-106 in Oakland behind six double digit scorers. My new favorite Frank Mason III had a good night but the Kings MVP was HRBs boy Willie Trill Cauley-Stein. This isn't your father's Kings anymore.
No idea how the kings keep winning games, other than people are resting and overlooking a team that plays hard. They are bad. Really bad.
Shitty game for the Sixers 3 for 28 from three and we are not talking tough looks.
Worst performance of the year.
Simmons was off and he sprained his ankle. This sucks but no one even noticed it live and the game was over so I'm hoping it was minor.
Embiid spent the first half on the perimeter which is starting to piss me off, 3rd quarter he went inside and dominated.
But one of those games for the Sixers 3-28 and at LEAST 6 missed layups open layups.
The Cavs are back though. LeBron was epic and the start was ridiculous he was pissed by Simmons chatter I think.
Korver was deadly, wade played decent and his dick veteran drawing of fouls and flops was high grade
But Crowder wtf man. He was absolutely brutal. And at one point flopped and dragged summons down looking for an offensive foul and nearly hurt LeBron.
Shitty game for the Sixers 3 for 28 from three and we are not talking tough looks.
Worst performance of the year.
Simmons was off and he sprained his ankle. This sucks but no one even noticed it live and the game was over so I'm hoping it was minor.
Embiid spent the first half on the perimeter which is starting to piss me off, 3rd quarter he went inside and dominated.
But one of those games for the Sixers 3-28 and at LEAST 6 missed layups open layups.
The Cavs are back though. LeBron was epic and the start was ridiculous he was pissed by Simmons chatter I think.
Korver was deadly, wade played decent and his dick veteran drawing of fouls and flops was high grade
But Crowder wtf man. He was absolutely brutal. And at one point flopped and dragged summons down looking for an offensive foul and nearly hurt LeBron.
Oh and anyone who doesn't hope for Lou Will to somehow become available before the trade deadline is missing something. The guy isn't an elite player but he does possess elite offensive skills. 42 points on 12-22 shooting including 4-8 from deep. The Clippers beat the Lakers 120-115 at home.
Ah man that is a shame
But I mean who could have seen those two getting hurt...
They have to trade Jordan and tank now, if it is bad that is of course
If Griffin’s injury is indeed serious, your wish may have been granted...
Magic lost to: Nuggets (2nd night of B2B); GSW; PDX; Jazz (at home); IND; MIN; Cs; PHI; and IND again. All of which (as of this moment) are playoff teams.
Probably the most inexplicable loss is the Jazz blowout at home, but that happens.
ORL has enough talent to be in the playoff hunt assuming everyone stays healthy.
IND really is the surprise team of the league I would think.
Boston, Detroit and Indy are the leaders for this title. Remember all the hot takes about how historically bad the EC was over the summer? 10 of the 15 teams are .500 or above
In those 9 games, they have lost by an average of 14.8 points. Take out that 40 point Jazz game, and it's still 11.6. Tough schedule, but they haven't even been competitive. I doubt they'll be in competition for the 5th pick, but worth keeping an eye on.
Compared to 7 in the Western Conference.
Amazing thing: here is one list of the 25 best players under 25 (including this for illustrative purposes only), 9 are in the Western Conference and that's if you include players like Wiggins, Capela, Dennis Smith Jr., and Steven Adams. Other than KAT, AD, Jokic, and maybe Booker, DSJ, Ball, and Josh Jackson, almost all of the impact talent under 25 is in the East.
Giannis
AD
Porzingas
KAT
Embiid
Simmons
Jokic
Beal
Booker
Turner
Tatum
Wiggins
Drummand
Aaron Gordan
Jaylen Brown
Capela
Smith Jr.
Schroder
Porter
Russell
Smart
Randle
Markkanen
Collins
Steven Adams
Poor Austin. He puts up a 19/8/6 and gets scolded for diving after a loose ball. The kid can't win.
This guy and his father need to leave.
Hire Fizdale. He's from LA and good friends with Lebron so it gives you an 1% shot at him next year.
Clippers have a tough decision to make now on DeAndre Jordan. That's a team going nowhere and fast and he'd probably bring back a decent return if they moved him even with his pending free agency.
Also have to wonder when and if the Grizzlies start listening on Gasol or Conley. The coaching change will give them a short reprieve on those kind of talks but it's unlikely that those two form the core of the next good Memphis team.
Also have to wonder when and if the Grizzlies start listening on Gasol or Conley. The coaching change will give them a short reprieve on those kind of talks but it's unlikely that those two form the core of the next good Memphis team.
Erm no. The magic shot at a ridiculous rate and had poor shooting against them, it was a fluke
Since their stupid lucky opening they suck.
The magic will be in the lottery
Agreed on the Magic. Here are updated win projections, which are based solely on how well teams have played this year (but regressing certain components to the mean):
Yeah, Clippers went 8-11 WITH Griffin and now he is looking at a long absence. I think they are about to go into a free fall.
Not sure that's a given, at least not imminently, Tony Parker's recent 3-week guesstimate notwithstanding. If three weeks becomes a month, we're approaching the midpoint of the season.
But yeah, even if Kawhi only plays 30-40 games, I'd take the over on the Spurs at 43.
Yeah - this is not a very granular analysis. This just takes each team's performance to date, and regresses to the mean based performance in certain components (such as 3PT%, opposing 3PT%, opposing FT%, etc...). These are not like the win projections I run preseason - these are much more of a toy, to just to see how well and sustainably teams have played so far.
16/10/6 from LeBron, 32 for Love and the Cavs scored 75 by the half. They seem to be playing pissed off.
That puts the Lakers at 5th, I like it.Agreed on the Magic. Here are updated win projections, which are based solely on how well teams have played this year (but regressing certain components to the mean):
I can't even with the Wolves. Teague isn't playing and I can barely name the players on the team outside KAT, Wiggins (13 points on 13 shots, no rebounding, no assists, no d on a max contract)
Butler is great but if Thibs can't make KAT and Wiggins play defense this team isn't very scary and they are goign to be gassed in the offseason.
8 minutes to go and Wiggins and KAT are at 30+ minutes already
Butler is great but if Thibs can't make KAT and Wiggins play defense this team isn't very scary and they are goign to be gassed in the offseason.
8 minutes to go and Wiggins and KAT are at 30+ minutes already
Ben Gordon, not a good week: https://nypost.com/2017/11/28/ben-gordon-arrested-again-for-felony-robbery/
Two things:
1. I love Paul Pierce so I am completely biased but he is fantastic as an NBA color guy. He is a natural in front of the cameras, his familiarity with the players (from being on the court with them) is a huge plus and he clearly enjoys the work.
2. Per El Uno, David Fizdale makes so much sense with the Clippers if they move on from Doc (and they should - I love Doc but his time in LA has not been kind to him). I don't know if Fizdale nets the Clips LeBron but, Gasol and early 2017-18 season noise aside, he did a pretty good job with a ragtag roster in Memphis.
1. I love Paul Pierce so I am completely biased but he is fantastic as an NBA color guy. He is a natural in front of the cameras, his familiarity with the players (from being on the court with them) is a huge plus and he clearly enjoys the work.
2. Per El Uno, David Fizdale makes so much sense with the Clippers if they move on from Doc (and they should - I love Doc but his time in LA has not been kind to him). I don't know if Fizdale nets the Clips LeBron but, Gasol and early 2017-18 season noise aside, he did a pretty good job with a ragtag roster in Memphis.
Hes 15/30 from 3 in the 5 games he's played since I posted this. Up to .504/.379/.768. He does make some really boneheaded plays and I still don't like him too much on the defensive ends. His measurements are lack luster so I'm not sure he'll ever be great on that end of the court.
He is also capable of creating his own shot. If he can just be an average NBA defender, he will be a very valuable player.
Quite the night for Aaron Judge Gordon: 37 pts on 21 fga, 13 reb, 4 ast, 4 stl, 1 blk.
Orlando, losers of nine straight, wax OKC 121-108. Break up the Eastern Conference!!
Orlando, losers of nine straight, wax OKC 121-108. Break up the Eastern Conference!!
Interesting to see if other teams try it, WAS came out to about a +18 I think in the hack a Simmons stretches.