I had the same thought. Vazquez for one of the semi-late inning relievers (Colome/Pazos/Nicasio) makes sense.Just registering my expectation that one of our catchers is a Mariner by the end of the GM Meetings.
I had the same thought. Vazquez for one of the semi-late inning relievers (Colome/Pazos/Nicasio) makes sense.Just registering my expectation that one of our catchers is a Mariner by the end of the GM Meetings.
No, it doesn't make any sense. Vazquez is the guy the team trusted in the post-season and he OPS'd .734 in 2017. He's going to be the primary catcher next season.I had the same thought. Vazquez for one of the semi-late inning relievers (Colome/Pazos/Nicasio) makes sense.
Yeah, I think Vaz is clearly Plan A, but they probably do need a third catcher. I think Swihart serves a role as emergency catcher and sub at the corners (3b/1b/LF/RF).No, it doesn't make any sense. Vazquez is the guy the team trusted in the post-season and he OPS'd .734 in 2017. He's going to be the primary catcher next season.
I'm not sure that arrangement makes use of Swihart very well. He's a better hitter (SSS) against RHP, but all of our guys playing 3B/1B/LF in that arrangement are also better against righties, and the guy playing RF plays 155+ games a year. Plus Nunez and Holt may still be on the team.Yeah, I think Vaz is clearly Plan A, but they probably do need a third catcher. I think Swihart serves a role as emergency catcher and sub at the corners (3b/1b/LF/RF).
Does that mean he’s arb-eligible this off-season instead of next off-season?Swihart granted Super 2 status today. Interesting to see how/if that alters the equation.
that's correct.Does that mean he’s arb-eligible this off-season instead of next off-season?
Isn't the best option non-tendering Leon?that's correct.
it's hard to imagine he will go through all 6 years before FA, because with no options, he'll just be DFA'd sometime before then. I don't think a non-tender is coming but it wouldn't be impossible either.
MLBTradeRumors, which has become the most accurate projections for arb salaries, has Swihart at 1.1M and Leon at 2.3M. Vaz will be starting his 3yr, 21mil extension.
Vazquez is signed long-term and Swihart has more offensive upside. I don't care how much they love Leon. He is so bad offensively.again, they seem to love Leon. I think he's back.
Vaz has a 3/$13.5M mil extension.that's correct.
it's hard to imagine he will go through all 6 years before FA, because with no options, he'll just be DFA'd sometime before then. I don't think a non-tender is coming but it wouldn't be impossible either.
MLBTradeRumors, which has become the most accurate projections for arb salaries, has Swihart at 1.1M and Leon at 2.3M. Vaz will be starting his 3yr, 21mil extension.
This is one of those stupid David Schoenfeld ESPN “throw anything against the wall and see what sticks” pieces they had to find a BOLD (tm) move for all 30 teams and this was supposed to be ours. The last thing he says in the blurb, “I like adding a right hand bat to this lineup”. Guess he hasn’t seen our lineup in a few years.Just read on FB that the Sox are looking at Donaldson for 3B and moving Devers to 1st with Moreland. Anybody know if any legs to this?
"Rumor has Red Sox signing josh Donaldson and moving devers to play first base with Mitch Moreland ? Does anyone see the sense in this , I am not sure one way or the other. There thoughts is that it gives us two years for our young third baseman to come up. Donaldson just turned 32 . I can remember not long ago how great he was"On FB?
If Devers can improve at 3rd with the throws across the diamond then he's a very good 3rd baseman (I'm assuming he'll continue to improve at the plate). But if he doesn't improve defensively there, he'd make an ideal 1st basemanBoth Devers and Moreland being LH makes even less sense. Be really surprised if Pearce isn't back.
Devers will very likely be our 3B until JD is gone and then move to DH.
If Dalbec is any good, Devers probably gets moved to 1b anyway.If Devers can improve at 3rd with the throws across the diamond then he's a very good 3rd baseman (I'm assuming he'll continue to improve at the plate). But if he doesn't improve defensively there, he'd make an ideal 1st baseman
Devers made one bad play in the postseason, letting Bregman's ball get past him for a double. He needed to at least knock it down. Otherwise he was solid fielding the ball and very good throwing the ball. And the throw on Machado in Game 4 was amazing.If Devers can improve at 3rd with the throws across the diamond then he's a very good 3rd baseman (I'm assuming he'll continue to improve at the plate). But if he doesn't improve defensively there, he'd make an ideal 1st baseman
Error bars are still pretty high on Dalbec's future outcome. I wouldn't make any current decisions based on his contributions in 2-3 years.Devers made one bad play in the postseason, letting Bregman's ball get past him for a double. He needed to at least knock it down. Otherwise he was solid fielding the ball and very good throwing the ball. And the throw on Machado in Game 4 was amazing.
In addition to working on hitting with J.D. Martinez this offseason, I'd love it if he focused his training on agility and flexibility and not strength. Sometimes he still seems a little stiff on some of his actions. He he could improve that, he could be a very good third baseman.\
Of course, as bosox79 says, if Dalbec can hit, Devers probably moves across the diamond. But Dalbec has SO much swing and miss in his game now, he may never hit big-league pitching well enough.
Just out of curiosity, did this FB source offer any sort of numbers ($ and years) that the Sox might be willing offer or what Donaldson would be looking to get? I get that it's not happening, but curious if there was anything more than Sox looking at Donaldson. .Just read on FB that the Sox are looking at Donaldson for 3B and moving Devers to 1st with Moreland. Anybody know if any legs to this?
My sense is that Vazquez has the starting job to start with.They love Leon so much they benched him after Game 1 and Vazquez started the rest of the series.
That's interesting. "Mentioned the contract" implying that Vaz might have been pressing in some way? Or that the Sox are committed to him as a matter of fact?My sense is that Vazquez has the starting job to start with.
I think the Leon love *was* real. But I also think the pitchers all got a post-season taste of not-Leon and survived. Something that may have gotten lost in the sauce -- but which I cant find right now -- was Cora's frank assessment of Vazquez's disappointing regular season. He mentioned the contract and implied (to my ears, anyway) that there were things in his control that he knew he needed to work on but didn't. Given the contract, the organization certainly wants him to seize the job. Maybe being with Cora in Puerto Rico will push him.
I read it in a less positive light. I read it as Vaz not putting forth as much effort because he got the contract.That's interesting. "Mentioned the contract" implying that Vaz might have been pressing in some way? Or that the Sox are committed to him as a matter of fact?
So two lefties at 1b instead of Pearce/Moreland? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Unless they're committed to Devers and Moreland is simply a late-inning defensive replacement or injury insurance or pinch hitter.Just read on FB that the Sox are looking at Donaldson for 3B and moving Devers to 1st with Moreland. Anybody know if any legs to this?
Yes. That's how I took it. It wasnt a brutal takedown. But it was unsparing and direct. Maybe a little on the pressing side. But mostly the effort and preparation side. Sounds like he had talked with him, so it would not have been a surprise to Vazquez.I read it in a less positive light. I read it as Vaz not putting forth as much effort because he got the contract.
I love it, of course, but I can’t see where the Mets fit AB in their outfield of Cespedes/Nimmo/Conforto/Bruce/Lagares.Ken Rosenthal thinks that the Mets may listen to trade offers for Noah Syndegaard this offseason thinking that they won't sign both him and deGrom to long term extensions. Any interest in floating a package of Benintendi and Dalbec for Syndegaard? Does that get the Mets to not hang up the phone?
Bruce dabbled at first last year, and Lagares is not a legitimate starting option; in his last full season (2015) he had a sub .650 ops, and only played in 30 games last year.I love it, of course, but I can’t see where the Mets fit AB in their outfield of Cespedes/Nimmo/Conforto/Bruce/Lagares.
And then play JD 100% in the outfield? I was kind of shocked to see JD’s hitting splits, DH vs. playing in the OF (much better when he plays the OF). It’s not as big career wise, and his hitting numbers this year were still excellent as a DH. But, Sox break up their best asset group? No thanks. Also, if DD didn’t want to trade JBJ last year, I don’t think he’ll want to trade Beni this year. He alone is just about equal to Thor in WAR.I love it, of course, but I can’t see where the Mets fit AB in their outfield of Cespedes/Nimmo/Conforto/Bruce/Lagares.
It's not that surprising that his numbers are better when he's in the field vs DH. A lot of players over the years have expressed disinterest in being a full time DH because they feel like it takes them out of the flow of the game. That it is harder to "get up" for 3-4 ABs a game when all the time between them is spent in the dugout. I think it takes a special kind of hitter, or a whole lot of adjusting for a player to maximize his effectiveness at the plate without playing the field.And then play JD 100% in the outfield? I was kind of shocked to see JD’s hitting splits, DH vs. playing in the OF (much better when he plays the OF). It’s not as big career wise, and his hitting numbers this year were still excellent as a DH. But, Sox break up their best asset group? No thanks.
Let's look at this.And then play JD 100% in the outfield? I was kind of shocked to see JD’s hitting splits, DH vs. playing in the OF (much better when he plays the OF). It’s not as big career wise, and his hitting numbers this year were still excellent as a DH. But, Sox break up their best asset group? No thanks. Also, if DD didn’t want to trade JBJ last year, I don’t think he’ll want to trade Beni this year. He alone is just about equal to Thor in WAR.
Can't tell if this is serious or snark.I love it, of course, but I can’t see where the Mets fit AB in their outfield of Cespedes/Nimmo/Conforto/Bruce/Lagares.
Imagine if they had to find a spot for Willie McGeeCan't tell if this is serious or snark.
This sort of trade makes no sense if you think you can re-sign Eovaldi. If not, they're comparable but you're still robbing Peter to pay Paul.I wouldn't do Benintendi for Syndergaard straight up.
1) Benintendi has 4 years of control left, Syndergaard has 3
2) Beni is the position player so automatically there is less injury risk involved
3) For as good as Noah is, he's only made more than 25 starts once
4) The Sox don't exactly need to pay a hefty price for a SP. They need depth behind Sale, Price, Porcello, Eduardo. Trading Beni would create an unnecessary hole in the lineup.
Willie might be a better option than Cespedes.Imagine if they had to find a spot for Willie McGee
Which part do you mean?Can't tell if this is serious or snark.
Regarding Cespedes, I don't think it's a matter of how much he's owed over the next two years, but rather how much he'll be able to play over the next two years. It's likely that he misses at least the first half of this season and i really don't see Lagares holding up any potential deal that brings back Benintendi. As for the bolded...Just imagine the possibilities of a team that features three "good, young and cheap" outfielders.Which part do you mean?
Cespedes is likely done as an MVP player but they owe him $59 million the next two years. He's unmovable and they may as well play him, and he's probably a 2-3 win player over a full season. Conforto and Nimmo are both good, young and cheap. Lagares is still a good defender. Bruce is awful.
If it's the front half of the statement, I already exhausted all my bearish-on-Beni capital upthread. I'm not convinced he's not Joc Pederson.
Praising with faint damns? I mean, granted Pederson is not quite the guy LA hoped he was, but if that's Beni's downside, I'm OK with that.If it's the front half of the statement, I already exhausted all my bearish-on-Beni capital upthread. I'm not convinced he's not Joc Pederson.