Yeah I just remembered that. Unreal.Giants also scored 7 on the fumble return. It's 27 points over 7 games. 3.86 PPG.
0.31 points per drive allowed. So if you get 10 drives, you'll get a field goal!
Yeah I just remembered that. Unreal.Giants also scored 7 on the fumble return. It's 27 points over 7 games. 3.86 PPG.
0.31 points per drive allowed. So if you get 10 drives, you'll get a field goal!
Check out the line when they cross midfieldHere's the opposing QBs passing line so far this season:
123-242 (50.8%), 1,209 yds, 5.0 y/a, 1 td, 18 int, 26 sacks for 170 yds, 35.6 rating
I don't care if every game was against third string QBs....those numbers are absolutely unfathomable.
In 1900, Buffalo was the 8th largest city in the US. Cleveland #7, Cincinnati #10, Pittsburgh #11.It’s crazy to think there was a time when Buffalo/Cleveland/Pittsburgh were like the economic heart of America.
Over/under INT's for Baker I am setting at 2.5Baker Mayfield, the Pats next QB opponent, leads the league in interceptions thrown with 11.
Look at that ghastly number against non-AFCE opponents. My word what a drop-off.So it turns out the D is a mirage - it is just feasting on the lousy AFC East:
vs. AFC East: 2.50 PPG
vs. rest of NFL: 5.67 PPG
That is more than 2.25 times as many points per game given up vs. non-AFC East teams. #tomatocans
That was good, and echoes a comment Booger made last night, about how the Pats were basically playing only two defenses against the Jets: zero blitz and zero bluff.
New England’s defense has posted a passer rating of 35.6; if you throw an incomplete pass on every plat, that’s a 39.6 passer rating!
*edit*: link removed due to funny formattingWhile the offense is on the bench, the Patriots have a point differential of +10 this year. Removing all of their offensive drives from every game, the Patriots would be 3-3-1 (0.500) - tied for the second wildcard spot in the AFC, and better than 15 teams in the NFL.
Plus DH missed 2 games, and KVN missed a game. It's incredible what this defense is doing.Before van noy's rise, Hightower was usually seen as the guy that makes the defense go. But Chung has regularly been a close second. Except for 8 snaps in week 5 he hasn't even played in the last 3 games.
We haven't played against any good receiving TEs. We're going to need him when we play KC to pick up Kelce I would imagine.Before van noy's rise, Hightower was usually seen as the guy that makes the defense go. But Chung has regularly been a close second. Except for 8 snaps in week 5 he hasn't even played in the last 3 games.
And Philly, and Baltimore, and even Dallas....We haven't played against any good receiving TEs. We're going to need him when we play KC to pick up Kelce I would imagine.
Kelce's production is down a few ticks this year. He's still a Pro-Bowl TE, but his yardage looks like it'll be closer to the 1,000-1,100 he put up in 2016 and 2017 than the 1,336 he put up last year. Additionally, he only has 1 TD through 7 games. He caught 10 last year.We haven't played against any good receiving TEs. We're going to need him when we play KC to pick up Kelce I would imagine.
I never really did any digging on why Detroit didn't want him and how Van Noy became available. I remember him coming over as a cast off of the Lions and being a bust but did some searching today and it is interesting to see they wanted him for a long time:Before van noy's rise, Hightower was usually seen as the guy that makes the defense go. But Chung has regularly been a close second. Except for 8 snaps in week 5 he hasn't even played in the last 3 games.
There's a dozen or so other articles about it as well. Sounds like the Pats wanted him, he went way ahead of where he was projected and Pats stayed after him.According to a report from Adam Kurkjian of the Boston Herald, New England targeted Van Noy back in the 2014 NFL Draft and then continued to maneuver for him even after he landed with the Lions. Eventually, they took advantage of a major Lions mistake and nabbed a player they knew would fit their system for next to nothing.
You see, even Van Noy’s position coach at BYU, Kelly Poppinga, knew that he wasn’t a fit for Detroit’s version of the 4-3 defense and he remained in contact with a Patiots scout he chooses to keep anonymous even after he was drafted.
“We talked a lot about (Van Noy) when he was coming out before the draft,” Poppinga said. “I think [the Patriots] were really hoping they could get him. He got drafted really high by the Lions [No. 40 overall] to a place that really didn’t fit him, a 4-3 scheme that just did not fit his style at all.
“Even when he was at the Lions, the scout would still kind of talk to me, like, ‘Man, hopefully, one day, we can get our hands on this Kyle Van Noy guy.’ Sure enough, the day that the trade was announced, this scout reached out to me to say, ‘We’ve got our boy.’ ”
Have folks who have seen the Chiefs play noticed Kelce being used as a blocker more often this season? I realize he’s no Gronk when it comes to blocking, but I’m still curious. Given KC’s apparent reduction in OL effectiveness compared to last season, there could be a scheme adjustment driving that reduced production. If he’s just being forced to chip DEs more often to help the blocking hold up, that might still be a key factor.Kelce's production is down a few ticks this year. He's still a Pro-Bowl TE, but his yardage looks like it'll be closer to the 1,000-1,100 he put up in 2016 and 2017 than the 1,336 he put up last year. Additionally, he only has 1 TD through 7 games. He caught 10 last year.
Ravens tracker update. Red zone and plus-50 updates coming later.Ravens tracker update
Ravens:
Game 1 (@ Steelers, finished 9-7): 0 points, 193 yards passing, 30 yards rushing, 223 total yards
Game 2 (vs. Jacksonville, finished 7-9): 36 points, 375 yards passing, 46 yards rushing, 421 total yards
Game 3 (@ Miami, finished 11-5): 19 points, 152 yards passing, 106 yards rushing, 258 total yards
Game 4 (vs Cincinnati, finished 4-12): 0 points, 90 yards passing, 4 yards rushing, 94 total yards
Game 5 (@ Cleveland, finished 3-13): 0 points, 207 yards passing, 23 yards rushing, 230 total yards
Game 6 (@ Jacksonville, finished 7-9): 10 points, 253 yards passing, 95 yards rushing, 348 total yards
Game 7 (@ Washington, finished 8-8): 10 points, 145 yards passing, 101 yards rushing, 246 total yards)
Totals: 75 points, 1,415 yards passing, 405 yards rushing, 1,820 total yards, total opponents' record of 49-63, .438%)
Pats:
Game 1 (vs Steelers, currently 2-4): 3 points, 276 yards passing, 32 yards rushing, 308 total yards
Game 2 (@ Miami, currently 0-6): 0 points, 142 yards passing, 42 yards rushing, 184 total yards
Game 3 (vs Jets, currently 1-5): 14 points, 69 yards passing, 36 yards rushing, 105 total yards
Game 4 (@ Bills, currently 5-1): 10 points, 240 yards passing, 135 yards rushing, 375 total yards
Game 5 (@ Washington, currently 1-6): 7 points, 75 yards passing, 145 yards rushing, 220 total yards
Game 6 (vs. Giants, currently 2-5): 14 points, 161 yards passing, 52 yards rushing, 213 total yards
Game 7 (@ Jets, currently 1-5): 0 points, 73 yards passing, 81 yards rushing, 154 total yards
Total: 48 points, 1,039 yards passing, 523 yards rushing, 1,562 total yards, total opponents' record of 12-32, .273%)
And that also includes a Mayfield 18 yard scramble. Chubb was, and is, good---without that long run he still had numerous 7-10 yarders. Taking that long one out, he had 19 carries for 87 yards--nice average, but if you combine that with allowing under 200 yards passing, we'll take it all day.Yesterday their rush D allowed:
- 22 att, 159 yds, 7.3 ypc
- Even without Chubb's 44 yarder, it still would have been 21 att, 105 yds, 5.0 ypc
For sure. And that was my point really. They "struggled" yesterday but it was against an offense that has the potential to be explosive, and they still only allowed 310 total yards and 13 points. I mean, that's pretty good.And that also includes a Mayfield 18 yard scramble. Chubb was, and is, good---without that long run he still had numerous 7-10 yarders. Taking that long one out, he had 19 carries for 87 yards--nice average, but if you combine that with allowing under 200 yards passing, we'll take it all day.
Did anyone else think it seemed like the Patriots had trouble wrapping up and tackling, possibly as a result of the wet weather? The Chubb 44 yarder looked just like the other long plays we've seen the defense give up with missed tackles this season.The Pats' D wasn't great yesterday - at least not by their own lofty standards. Coming in they had been averaging:
- 3.9 points allowed
- 223.1 yards allowed
- 12.6 first downs allowed
And yesterday they gave up:
- 13 points (9.1 more than their previous average)
- 310 yards (86.9 more than their previous average)
- 15 first downs (2.4 more than their previous average)
Going into yesterday's game, their pass D had allowed:
- 123-242 (50.8%), 1,209 yds (5.0 y/a), 1 td, 18 int, 35.6 rating
Yesterday their pass D allowed:
- 20-31 (64.5%), 194 yds (6.3 y/a), 1 td, 1 int, 79.2 rating
Going into yesterday's game, their rush D had allowed:
- 126 att, 483 yds, 3.8 ypc
Yesterday their rush D allowed:
- 22 att, 159 yds, 7.3 ypc
- Even without Chubb's 44 yarder, it still would have been 21 att, 105 yds, 5.0 ypc
And even though their D "struggled" yesterday, they held a potentially explosive offense (they had just scored 28 points and put up 406 total yards against Seattle, and 40 points/530 yards at Baltimore two weeks prior to that) to just 310 total yards and 13 points.
Many of us commented on the bad tackling, but personally I won't blame the weather, because Cleveland didn't seem to have the same tackling issues. I just think it was a sloppy day for tackling, and I'm sure that will be a point of emphasis this week for BB. One of the issues of creating so many turnovers is that teams and players can get a little happy hunting them, sometimes at the expense of sure tackling. I don't know if that's what happened yesterday but their tackling was definitely off.Did anyone else think it seemed like the Patriots had trouble wrapping up and tackling, possibly as a result of the wet weather? The Chubb 44 yarder looked just like the other long plays we've seen the defense give up with missed tackles this season.
This is a good point. I will say that on the Edelman's first TD it seemed like he should have been tackled short of the end zone and that he was able to slip out of the LB's grasp. He tends to do that once or twice a game in all weather conditions though.Many of us commented on the bad tackling, but personally I won't blame the weather, because Cleveland didn't seem to have the same tackling issues. I just think it was a sloppy day for tackling, and I'm sure that will be a point of emphasis this week for BB. One of the issues of creating so many turnovers is that teams and players can get a little happy hunting them, sometimes at the expense of sure tackling. I don't know if that's what happened yesterday but their tackling was definitely off.
I think they've had some issues with this in previous games as well. If this D has a weakness that might be it.Did anyone else think it seemed like the Patriots had trouble wrapping up and tackling, possibly as a result of the wet weather? The Chubb 44 yarder looked just like the other long plays we've seen the defense give up with missed tackles this season.
Agree. Buffalo. Washington.I think they've had some issues with this in previous games as well. If this D has a weakness that might be it.
Seems like they often have multiple guys at the point of attack though.
The whispering consensus has been that whatever his offensive acumen, Kitchens's head coaching is faling short. He did nothing to quiet those voices yesterday.It's worth noting that Cleveland is a talented team with a bad record. There was always potential for them to do more as they actually have the skill players to do it.
Red zone update:Red zone update:
The Jets ran a shocking 6 plays in the red zone. But they were 0-5 passing with 2 INT, and 1 carry for 0 yards. GJGE.
Jets: 6
Washington: 0
Buffalo: 9
NYJ: 0
Miami: 1
Pittsburgh: 5
21 total plays inside the red zone.
Total breakdown:
2-11 passing, 9 yards, 3 INT, 0.0 rating, 1 sack, 0 yards lost (so Pats have more catches than their opponents inside the red zone)
9 carries for 19 yards, 1 TD, 2.11 YPC
Total: 21 plays, 28 yards (1.33 YPP), 1 TD, 3 INT
It adds up. For the total yards, they subtract the sack yardage.Plus 50 update
The Pats have only allowed 124 plays on their side of the field in 8 games (15.5 per game):
QBs are 26-80 (32.5%) for 263 yards, 10 picks, and 11 sacks for -75 yards. Passer rating of 7.4.
RBs have 33 carries for 110 yards (3.33 YPC) and 1 TD (Josh Allen)
Total: 124 plays for 298 yards, 2.40 YPP
Edit: numbers aren't adding up, trying to figure this out