Wynn again. If Wynn goes down again we are screwed.They won yesterday with him catching 2 passes for 4 yards. The only “we’re screwed if injured” guys are Brady and Edelman. I have no idea how we’d ever get a first down if Jules missed time.
Wynn again. If Wynn goes down again we are screwed.They won yesterday with him catching 2 passes for 4 yards. The only “we’re screwed if injured” guys are Brady and Edelman. I have no idea how we’d ever get a first down if Jules missed time.
There's a bit of a contradiction between your first sentence and your last one. Edelman is a great punt returner, but returning punts is risky business and BB knows he's too valuable to lose. Thus Gunner or whoever. I assume Sanu was back there only because Gunner is hurt, and when Gunner's healthy again he'll field the punts, even if BB believes Sanu is better at it (though we don't know that).Football coaches never coach in fear of a player getting injured. Those that do don't last long in the NFL.
The options yesterday were not great. Gunner has been on the injury report for a couple of weeks, and doesn't really help anywhere else on the field. Edelman gets enough abuse as it is and is best used as the break glass option.
THERE IS NO WAY SANU EVEN COMES CLOSE TO GETTING INJURED RETURNING A PUNT. RELAX.Maybe wrong thread, but does watching Sanu receive punts make anyone else nervous? Nervous because of the possibility of injury.
I don't think Gunner is hurt. He was inactive given 5 WRs and 2 TEs active on Sunday.There's a bit of a contradiction between your first sentence and your last one. Edelman is a great punt returner, but returning punts is risky business and BB knows he's too valuable to lose. Thus Gunner or whoever. I assume Sanu was back there only because Gunner is hurt, and when Gunner's healthy again he'll field the punts, even if BB believes Sanu is better at it (though we don't know that).
https://nesn.com/2019/11/how-patriots-used-receiver-nkeal-harry-in-first-round-picks-nfl-debut/Kyed: A source told NESN.com Dorsett isn’t expected to miss time with his head injury.Did we ever get a prognosis on Dorsett?
I joked about this after Edelman's TD pass this past weekend...Brady wins #7 and retires. Edelman replaces Brady. Gunner replaces Edelman. Pats win #8. Belichick retires.Can't wait for him to fight his way onto the 2020 team as primary KR/PR and #3/4 WR with roles and backup roles on all 6 ST squads.
It would be awesome if he comes back, Pats go 6-0 down the stretch and offense is dropping 30+ and some smart ass reporter votes Wynn for MVP.The MVP is back!!!
I do hope Wynn is a big boost.
Yes. The Pats already used their two "return from IR" slots on Harry and Wynn. So Gunner's trip is season ending, setting aside the fact that there's fewer than 8 games left anyway.Going on IR now means you are done for the season, is that correct?
Sorry, the judges were looking for "The champ is here!"The MVP is back!!!
Has anyone else noted that there is no actually “champ” in that commercial? Like, 10 jerseys and none of them Patriots. Seems like there never are in any NFL apparel ads.Sorry, the judges were looking for "The champ is here!"
A large pile of feces at left tackle momentarily delaying pass rushers processing how to avoid stepping in it on their way to Brady would be a boost.The MVP is back!!!
I do hope Wynn is a big boost.
Because the number 5 or 6 wide receiver doesn't usually see the field for the Patriots and therefore have to play special teams so that Edelman/Sanu do not until it mattters in the playoffs. And nothing better was available with the cap dollars they had or assets they were willing to invest in the position? I mean you could argue that a competent fullback or tight end would add more value to the team.I love the Gunner story and he is obviously a fast guy but he did not seem elusive. The Pats know way more than I do but why was he on the roster when the receiver position has been precarious?
Develin and J. Johnson were both healthy fullbacks when Gunner was initially placed on the roster.Because the number 5 or 6 wide receiver doesn't usually see the field for the Patriots and therefore have to play special teams so that Edelman/Sanu do not until it mattters in the playoffs. And nothing better was available with the cap dollars they had or assets they were willing to invest in the position? I mean you could argue that a competent fullback or tight end would add more value to the team.
He was deep depth at WR like Slater, and was mostly a PR. He was also available for other ST units and emergency DB. Useful guy to have around.I love the Gunner story and he is obviously a fast guy but he did not seem elusive. The Pats know way more than I do but why was he on the roster when the receiver position has been precarious?
We'd call it "The Runs"A large pile of feces at left tackle momentarily delaying pass rushers processing how to avoid stepping in it on their way to Brady would be a boost.
Gunner is basically another Slater; he's a WR in name only. He has two catches this year and they were both in the NYG game where every WR and TE was hurt and they couldn't sub in the second half. He's only played 29 offensive snaps outside of that.Gunner must really be hurt right? I mean Korey Cunningham could have been cut now that Wynn is back (He hasn't made a gameday roster since his first game I don't think). If Sanu and Dorsett are both legitimately at risk that could leave just 3 receivers healthy enough to dress. Even if just one of them is hurt, it sure would be nice to have Gunner around (even if he was inactive for the games and just there in case of a midweek injury).
Isn't that situation exactly what we're talking about, though?Gunner is basically another Slater; he's a WR in name only. He has two catches this year and they were both in the NYG game where every WR and TE was hurt and they couldn't sub in the second half. He's only played 29 offensive snaps outside of that.
My point is, he's a sub-replacement-level WR in that scenario, so he's not really adding anything compared to, say, just playing LaCosse and Watson all the time.Isn't that situation exactly what we're talking about, though?
Hmmmm……..THERE IS NO WAY SANU EVEN COMES CLOSE TO GETTING INJURED RETURNING A PUNT. RELAX.
He was injured during the game. While returning a punt. I assumed the all caps would be a tip off. Check your sarcasm meter.Hmmmm……..
I hear what you are a saying. My point was simply that despite some speculation about a Foxboro Flu IR the news about Sanu and Dorsett makes it seem much more likely that Gunner is actually hurt. If they are facing a real possibility of having only 3 active wide receivers this week, I am sure they would like to have him available as the 4th. Even assuming you go in to the game assuming you are living in 12 personnel for much of the game going in with only 3 active WR is scary. Not talking long term, but just this Sunday.Gunner is basically another Slater; he's a WR in name only. He has two catches this year and they were both in the NYG game where every WR and TE was hurt and they couldn't sub in the second half. He's only played 29 offensive snaps outside of that.
Unless something changed since Sunday (unlikely), he's not seriously hurt - he flew with the team, which usually means there was at least a chance he could have gone Sunday. But he was a late add to the injury report Friday with an ankle / hamstring, so he probably is dinged. I suspect the truth is somewhere in the middle: he's hurt enough at the moment enough to not be very useful, and he could recover but they need the roster spot.I hear what you are a saying. My point was simply that despite some speculation about a Foxboro Flu IR the news about Sanu and Dorsett makes it seem much more likely that Gunner is actually hurt. If they are facing a real possibility of having only 3 active wide receivers this week, I am sure they would like to have him available as the 4th. Even assuming you go in to the game assuming you are living in 12 personnel for much of the game going in with only 3 active WR is scary. Not talking long term, but just this Sunday.
This is exactly how I feel and no amount of Sad Panda Brady press conferences will upset me along the way. This team doesn’t win it every year and they’ve had their share of terrible injury luck this season.The D is gonna have to continue to be great until the pieces are in place for the offense to shoulder its share of the load. I see them eking out some tight wins and maybe suffering a loss or two until the offense gets in gear. If/when THAT happens, then this team goes back to being the best team in football.
IF we don't get in the groove with Wynn back (and sanu/dorsett healthy), I'm not sure how much additional improvement we can expect outside unfounded optimism for a major leap by rookies, unfortunately.The D is gonna have to continue to be great until the pieces are in place for the offense to shoulder its share of the load. I see them eking out some tight wins and maybe suffering a loss or two until the offense gets in gear. If/when THAT happens, then this team goes back to being the best team in football.
This is a fantastic post.Unless something changed since Sunday (unlikely), he's not seriously hurt - he flew with the team, which usually means there was at least a chance he could have gone Sunday. But he was a late add to the injury report Friday with an ankle / hamstring, so he probably is dinged. I suspect the truth is somewhere in the middle: he's hurt enough at the moment enough to not be very useful, and he could recover but they need the roster spot.
WR is thin, but again, I don't think Gunner moves the needle on that. They can play Slater, they can play an extra TE, they can play an extra OL. I'm not saying those are great options, but I think they are comparable options to what Olszewski gives them.
EDIT: I also think there's a blessing in disguise here; Harry and Meyers got first-team reps all yesterday and will get a bunch more this week even if Dorsett is able to return. Probably not great for the Week 12 Pats, but it might be good for the playoff Pats.