Absolutely ... it's a smart buy-low opportunitySeems to be consensus from all reporters, that's the package. Very happy with this. Whether Taillon pans out or not, that's a trade you have to make.
Yea, I think Tanaka is gone and if they have to buy another player, it will be Gardner.So...
Cole
Severino
Kluber
Taillon
Deivi
Montgomery
Schmidt
German
That’s really solid. Guessing Tanaka to Japan is close?
Neil Huntington screwed those 2013-2015 teams so badly. When he had legitimate teams that could have won it all had they won their division and avoided Bumgarner and Arrieta in a one-game playoff, he wouldn't trade prospects for a piece to put them over the top. Sometimes you have to do that and pay the price. I'm sure Royals fans would say 2015 was worth it.Those two years the Pirates ran into buzzsaws in the playoffs really are painful to think about now.
He is fine, he got hurt in mid-2019 and could have come back at the end of 2020, but they held him back. Both he and Kluber should be as ready as anyone when the season starts.Has anyone seen anything detailed about Taillon's recovery?
I don't think NY ever wanted him back, they needed to add guys with #2 potential and that is not current Tanaka. Rakuten was supposedly going to offer him $20-$25M per year to come back, obviously way way more than he would make in the US now even if NY wanted him.Guessing Tanaka to Japan is close?
I looked at this last night, those three started 24 of NY's 60 regular season games last year. The other 36:So, the innings that last year went to Tanaka, Happ, and Paxton (or lacktherof) will go to Kluber, Taillon, and German.
Given the price of Hand and Boston's willingness to take Ottavino's contract, that should indicate to us what Rosenthal would cost. I would imagine a multi-year agreement at around 10/per. Would be surprised if Cashman did that instead of use our prospects to fund a trade at the deadline.NY moves Ottavino and his entire salary to BOS along with Frank German, so now they are back to 40 guys on the 40 man and around $14M under the $210M tax line. They clearly want to reallocate some of this money and think they can do better on the FA market, maybe Gardner and Trevor Rosenthal? Not too convinced Rosenthal is an upgrade on Ottavino myself.
Edit: Olney says they are paying 850K of Ottavino, so around $13M under.
I agree. It's gonna be Gardner and a trade, not Gardner + TR. Which, by the way, would also require a trade to clear up 2 spots. Greg Allen might be 1, but still. No matter what, the Yankees will need to make a trade if they want to improve their bullpen.The Rosenthal thing doesn't make much sense to me, he had 10 superb innings for SD last regular season and then got hammered in the playoffs. NY actually had him briefly in 2019 but he couldn't throw strikes and never got out of Scranton. I only mention him because there has been a lot of smoke around him to NY on Twitter.
There are Japanese news reports that Tanaka’s old Japanese team Rakuten is going to offer him somewhere between $20-$25M annually (no report on length) to try to woo him back, which I think is way past where NY would go.
Have to imagine that there's a handshake agreement to come to terms with Gardner in place and, to me, that really closes the door. I like Gardner for the stability he provides, he's like a #4 pitcher who will always be healthy. But I think they really do need that lefty moved up in the lineup especially because Hicks just hasn't been the stud switch hitter and defender he could be if he were healthy.If Gallo really is good in Yankee Stadium LF and CF, I'd pack Frazier and Abreu's bags for them.
The Yankees may have the chips to get it done, but I guess I'd like to understand how interested the Reds really are in moving Castillo at all, or not.
I mean, I hope the Yankees can get him, but my enthusiasm will be tempered a bit if the Reds aren't interested unless they get an offer that blows them away. And I say that knowing that the Yankees do need to move some of their surplus at some point, and Castillo is a fine player to target for that.
Anyway, glad to see the roster coming into focus. In Cashman I trust.
Truly not trolling here, but Cashman's teams haven't won a World Series in a decade, and only 1 in the past 20 years. He won 3 of them in his first three years as GM, but were those "Cashman teams"? Or were they "Gene Michael" teams?I like Gallo a lot too but I'm not sure he would even cost Frazier. The one thing Cashman is really good at is finding value in position players that nobody else sees, so I think he could even go in another direction. However, for his own credibility, I think he needs to have a no excuses sort of year. Everyone has been staring at the lineup and pitching construction for a couple of years now wondering why we're so one-sided. Lot of lefty arms and lot of righty bats. Go out and get your lefty bat, get a power righty bullpen arm behind your 8th and 9th inning lefties. Call it an off-season. I'm so pumped for this year but it would be that much more exciting if we could fully round out this roster once and for all.
Shortish answer is that he rarely loses a trade and rarely overpays for players. The team is able to restructure itself as needed because of how he continues to manage and build the farm system. I think fans outside of NY get stuck on the WS too much. Cashman didn't have proper control of the team until probably 2016 when he finally convinced Hal to do a rebuild. As soon as that happened there was a flurry of trades that netted the team so much value that the farm system was top 5 and the roster was contending for a world series almost immediately. Now, a few years later, the system is powerful, the roster is flexible, and they aren't a team like in 2010 who is being dragged down by heavy contracts. Even Stanton, who is the worst contract on the team, only costs $22-23/yr AAV.Truly not trolling here, but Cashman's teams haven't won a World Series in a decade, and only 1 in the past 20 years. He won 3 of them in his first three years as GM, but were those "Cashman teams"? Or were they "Gene Michael" teams?
I admire how Yankee fans speak so positively about their GM, considering how much Red Sox fans complain about ours, but what has Cashman done to earn this trust and praise?
That's fair.The playoffs are a crapshoot. Cashman has had fairly sustained success building a team and farm system that reliably get them to the playoffs, giving them as many chances as possible to cash in.
Maybe. But this is the discussion that you guys were having on the Sox forum after Cherington left, right? Would you rather seesaw and win a couple ships or consistently be in the running? The Sox team that won is now long gone and they're attempting to rebuild. Probably preference but I'm not unsatisfied watching baseball just because they haven't won recently. I firmly believe it will happen. Especially with the sucktitude of the AL at the moment.That's fair.
I think I am happier with the Red Sox results in the past 20 years than I would be with the Yankee results, but there is definitely value in getting into the tournament each year and having a chance to win.
I'm 50 years old and I've been lucky enough to see the Yankees win seven championships. I'm young enough that I think I'll see more, though I know there are no guarantees.That's fair.
I think I am happier with the Red Sox results in the past 20 years than I would be with the Yankee results, but there is definitely value in getting into the tournament each year and having a chance to win.
I think I suggested I am happier with the seesaws. To me, coming in 2nd or 3rd is the same as coming in last (I mean in the division, I don't mean losing the ALCS or WS is the same as last). The losing years suck, but at least we sometimes know early that we don't have to worry about fall plans getting in the way of the playoffsMaybe. But this is the discussion that you guys were having on the Sox forum after Cherington left, right? Would you rather seesaw and win a couple ships or consistently be in the running? The Sox team that won is now long gone and they're attempting to rebuild. Probably preference but I'm not unsatisfied watching baseball just because they haven't won recently. I firmly believe it will happen. Especially with the sucktitude of the AL at the moment.
Sure. I'm 33 and have seen 5 WS wins and historic 2001 and 2004 series. From 2017 to now, this team has been non-stop entertainment and excitement. Watching the emergence of Judge in 2017 was as fun as anything I've seen on the Yankees in 20 years. I'll take that right now. Call me in 5 years and ask me again, though. Cashman does need to pass the test again.I think I suggested I am happier with the seesaws. To me, coming in 2nd or 3rd is the same as coming in last (I mean in the division, I don't mean losing the ALCS or WS is the same as last). The losing years suck, but at least we sometimes know early that we don't have to worry about fall plans getting in the way of the playoffs
And I've been so careful not to sound at all like I might be trolling here, but with a month to go until spring training (hopefully) I think it's too soon to make those sorts of comments. Yes, the NYY look strong, but the Sox still have some moving pieces.Well, this looks like a rare year when both fanbases have a chance to be happy.
Lose can start his plans almost a full year in advance, E5 Yaz gets to watch an interesting failure, and Yankees fans can hopefully watch a competitive team.
The way I think of it is that Cashman 1 got fired in mid-2016 after getting his ass kicked for a few seasons by Sox development, and Cashman 2 immediately took over. Cashman 2 has been insanely good, adding talent at every level of the system and seriously restructuring the coaching staff. He has yet to break through with another title, but NY has been a top 3-5 team in MLB for 4-5 years running (including 2021, on paper anyway). Positioning your team in the top handful in MLB year after year and continually trying to make them better seems like the definition of a top GM.Truly not trolling here, but Cashman's teams haven't won a World Series in a decade, and only 1 in the past 20 years. He won 3 of them in his first three years as GM, but were those "Cashman teams"? Or were they "Gene Michael" teams?
I admire how Yankee fans speak so positively about their GM, considering how much Red Sox fans complain about ours, but what has Cashman done to earn this trust and praise?