2023-2024 General NBA Season Thread

DannyDarwinism

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Well this sure looks like a nightmare for the association. Apparently for the hurt eyeball game the under on his minutes played was the biggest winner of any player prop that day.
 

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I hope that teaches everyone to play through a hurt eyeball next time, lest you be investigated and your reputation ruined.

edit: in retrospect this was probably a bad post, I agree the totality of the facts looks pretty bad, but "withdrew due to a hurt eyeball" just makes me wince in sympathy. Perhaps undeserved, in this case.
 
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I hope that teaches everyone to play through a hurt eyeball next time, lest you be investigated and your reputation ruined.
If this was a one-off that would be one thing….but in the other abnormally bet prop game he pulled himself 2:43 in due to “illness.” This wasn’t a one-off.
 

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If this was a one-off that would be one thing….but in the other abnormally bet prop game he pulled himself 2:43 in due to “illness.” This wasn’t a one-off.
Yeah, the eye thing was in January, but the "illness" was just a few days ago. Seems like if he had stuck to just pulling this once, he might have gotten away with it.
 

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Yeah, the eye thing was in January, but the "illness" was just a few days ago. Seems like if he had stuck to just pulling this once, he might have gotten away with it.
He also reportedly sold his jersey number to Bruce Brown for $10k only days before the first prop game. Yikes.
 

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Well this sure looks like a nightmare for the association. Apparently for the hurt eyeball game the under on his minutes played was the biggest winner of any player prop that day.
The night he pulled himself for “illness” his Unders were also the bigger prop liability for DK and they had multiple people trying to make $20k bets on his Unders.
 

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I smell debt to a bookie!
Or just being broke. He isn’t making that much money on a two-way to keep up with the NBA lifestyle that surrounds him. Whatever the case this is looking worse and worse for him with every new report.
 

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Yeah, the eye thing was in January, but the "illness" was just a few days ago. Seems like if he had stuck to just pulling this once, he might have gotten away with it.
This is nuts. I’m not a gambler, and that’s just to say I never gave much thought to how easy it is for a player to influence a bet that only depends on whether (s)he is on the court. I don’t get how that’s allowed to be a thing.
For the people here more in tune with this - how much would the gamblers of the world care if we just said “no more betting on shit one player can rig?”
 

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This is nuts. I’m not a gambler, and that’s just to say I never gave much thought to how easy it is for a player to influence a bet that only depends on whether (s)he is on the court. I don’t get how that’s allowed to be a thing.
For the people here more in tune with this - how much would the gamblers of the world care if we just said “no more betting on shit one player can rig?”
There are different types of wagering. You can wager on the teams or the total points scored in a contest. Then you have the “individual prop” market which have much smaller limits on how much a bettor can wager. Say the limit is $20k you can wager on a team at this particular outlet…the limits on a player prop can be around $1k or even less depending on the sport (higher in a larger handle sport such as NFL, much smaller on say a tennis match).

This was what raised a red flag in that multiple accounts were flagged for attempting to wager $10-20k all on the same player props involving Porter. These type of wagers would NEVER, and I’ll confidently say never, occur on an obscure bench player on TWO occasions where the player willingly removed himself from the game both times minutes after entering.

To be clear, it is very possible that a betting group would have injury information, although this would mostly be for NFL, to suggest a player would see a limited number of snaps and attack these Under markets. The NBA rarely works like this and especially with a player such as Porter. Like literally there are 4-5 boxes that are being checked off here togethe when only one singular box could realistically be considered a one-off.
 
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There are different types of wagering. You can wager on the teams or the total points scored in a contest. Then you have the “individual prop” market which have much smaller limits on how much a bettor can wager. Say the limit is $20k you can wager on a team at this particular outlet…the limits on a player prop can be around $1k or even less depending on the sport (higher in a larger handle sport such as NFL, much smaller on say a tennis match).

This was what raised a red flag in that multiple accounts were flagged for attempting to wager $10-20k all on the same player props involving Porter. These type of wagers would NEVER, and I’ll confidently say never, occur on an obscure bench player on TWO occasions where the player willingly removed himself from the game both times minutes after entering.

To be clear, it is very possible that a betting group would have injury information, although this would mostly be for NFL, to suggest a player would see a limited number of snaps and attack these Under markets. The NBA rarely works like this and especially with a player such as Porter. Like literally there are 4-5 boxes that are being checked off here togethe when only one singular box could realistically be considered a one-off.
Oh wow, so this wasn’t even a smart dumb scheme? In other words, to pay off they would have had to have been allowed to make higher bets than actually permitted? And they didn’t do that research? So this ain’t Inception level planning.
And good to know there are some safeguards in place.
 

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This is weird. I feel like the Ohtani coverage is completely oversaturated compared to this scandal. The irregular betting patterns occurring two times on an imperceptible injury (illness, aggravated eye) are pretty much a smoking gun. This directly compromises the integrity of games. After Porter removed himself, the Raptors only had one healthy center.
 

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This is weird. I feel like the Ohtani coverage is completely oversaturated compared to this scandal. The irregular betting patterns occurring two times on an imperceptible injury (illness, aggravated eye) are pretty much a smoking gun. This directly compromises the integrity of games. After Porter removed himself, the Raptors only had one healthy center.
I don't disagree, but it's kind of obvious why. Ohtani is the biggest baseball star in the world, and Porter is completely unknown to 99% of NBA fans. The Dodgers are solid favorites to win the WS, the Raptors are finishing up a forgetful season in 12th place in the east. This situation seems to be far worse, but the parties involved are infinitely less important, hence the lack of attention.
 

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Or just being broke. He isn’t making that much money on a two-way to keep up with the NBA lifestyle that surrounds him. Whatever the case this is looking worse and worse for him with every new report.
Yikes. He should have called his brother.

Didn't the old man leverage MPJ & Jontay's NCAA recruitment into an Asst Coaching job (before the days of NIL)
 

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Dame currently narrowly ahead of Curry for the lead in free throw percentage. Dame has gone 422 for 455, .927%, this year while Curry has gone 274 for 297, .923%. This is always a fun race to check in on as both guys are easily the two best FT shooters of their generation, when you factor in qualifiers for volume. Dame might lead the league in FT% while shooting the seventh most free throws, which is pretty crazy.
 

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Oh wow, so this wasn’t even a smart dumb scheme? In other words, to pay off they would have had to have been allowed to make higher bets than actually permitted? And they didn’t do that research? So this ain’t Inception level planning.
And good to know there are some safeguards in place.
No definitely not by expierienced beards (runners for sharp bettors) which adds another flag.
 

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Bucks on the verge of blowing a huge fourth quarter lead to a LeBron-less Lakers team. Lakers headed to the line down two with 50 seconds to play.
 

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Khris Middleton has taken four contested shots in the final two minutes here and missed them all. Giannis hasn't even touched the ball.
 

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What kind of championship contender blows a 19 point fourth quarter lead against a team sitting its best player?
 

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Nice to have a 93-percent free-throw shooter on your side late in the game, no?
 

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OKC running SGA iso everything and come back to take lead from Pelicans who continue to run motion down the stretch resulting in bad shots and turnovers vs end of game defense.
 

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Khris Middleton has taken four contested shots in the final two minutes here and missed them all. Giannis hasn't even touched the ball.
Giannis completely disappeared in the OTs. I think the Bucks ran one pick n' roll with Giannis and Lillard in OT... and Giannis has either been stuffed by Davis, fouled and missed FTs or tried a fallaway that was short. Not sure what the Lakers were doing on D against him..maybe just having Davis being able to guard him...but they seemed to frustrate him quite a bit tonite.

Edit: Davis' FTs are very pure... he looks very confident from the line and his shots are basically dead center.

Edit2: Takeaway with a Laker win is.. at least the Lakers are still in the play in at the moment and this puts to bed any kind of tie scenario with the Bucks for the EC.
 

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Giannis and Dame having to log nearly 50 minutes to blow a huge lead at home to a LeBronless Laker team warms the heart.
 

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I give him the toe on the line didn’t deserve it asterisk everyone gives the Celtics for Jimmy missing the 3 in ‘22. :drunk:
I know that injuries happen to everyone, but the Nets were just such a superior team before Kyrie AND Harden got hurt. That series was headed for a sweep, or at least a gentleman's sweep, without much chance for the Bucks to do anything about it.

Everyone talks about the Lakers' Mickey Mouse title, but the Bucks' one is as close to an asterisk as I'll ever do.