200 yards / game even when he was “good”. I think Daboll did a masterful job protecting him from himself but I don’t really see how he levels up. Like, I think I’d rather have Mac.
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I probably rank Jones somewhat higher than you but it’s still not good enough and we reach the same bottom conclusion. I agree he’s been protected a lot. He is a very good runner which is pretty valuable but it’s not next-level like a Lamar Jackson or even a Josh Allen…so there are fast defenses like Dallas than can cause him major problems whereas some of those other guys can overcome that. Allen is a way better passer and Jackson is simply faster/quicker.
He’s the type of QB you could maybe try and consistently compete with if you had him for low money and could invest elsewhere but paying him a huge contract is crazy. Agreed on that. The Giants also didn’t have a ton of talent around him to begin with outside of Saquon who had a lot of injury problems until last year. So investing in Jones made even less sense.
This “heartwarming” tale of Pollard playing tackle football at 4 years old is insane. Having a 4 year old play older kids in tackle football is child abuse. What a world.
The Giants can move on from Jones after next season with a manageable ($22m) cap hit. It’s a crappy contract, but it was probably their least bad option.
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yikes
The #Cowboys dominating the NYG 40-0. Perhaps a historic win.
Largest Shutout Victory
Cowboys History
1978 vs Colts 38-0
1977 vs Lions 37-0
1995 at Giants 35-0
1998 at Eagles 34-0
1970 vs Washington 34
yikes
The #Cowboys dominating the NYG 40-0. Perhaps a historic win.
Largest Shutout Victory
Cowboys History
1978 vs Colts 38-0
1977 vs Lions 37-0
1995 at Giants 35-0
1998 at Eagles 34-0
1970 vs Washington 34
At what point do they call off the dogs. good grief Dallas is up 33 and had times with no backs and 5 WR on that drive?
And both teams still have the starters in the game up til now
And I know it is only like 45 people dressed on game days, so, can't really put 3rd teamers in
And both teams still have the starters in the game up til now
And I know it is only like 45 people dressed on game days, so, can't really put 3rd teamers in
I understand the frustration with Pats not getting over the hump yet etc...
... THIS is a night to forget and worthy of scorn.
... THIS is a night to forget and worthy of scorn.
Agreed they arent necessarily screwed for the rest of the decade. It still kind of sucks though that we’re now talking 2026 where you can maybe manage a 22M cap hit for the luxury of not having him on the roster. Realistically though you’re prob talking 2027 before you can really build enough talent around a new guy.
But who knows, maybe Jones takes a step forward at some point, though im skeptical.
The alternative was probably to bring in someone like Jacoby Brissett, sign a couple complementary players with the money you didn’t give Jones, and try to build on last year’s success, while setting yourself up to trade for whatever above-average QB becomes available after next offseason. That alternative looks pretty good right now. But if you think there’s a even a slim chance that Jones can be a top-10 guy, they were probably right to do what they did.
I don't think Daniel Jones is that good, but he's not even close to the problem for NYG. They have a horrific offensively line.
Agreed. But how on earth is in this game down 40 in a rain storm to get crushed play after play?
Is there some injury insurance clause in his contract the Giants are hoping to cash in on?
It's legit insanity.
Even if Jones wants to stay in Daboll needs to take him out (unless he secretly wants an injury lol)
Risk/benefit here is nonsensical if he is their franchise guy.
My general thought is that Daboll is like many good OC's and playcallers, actually a shitty head coach
Watching some highlights here and Fields looked like shit, huh. I think time is running out quickly on the hopes of him ever figuring out as a passer.
I think a lot of that was just the misfortune of the Bears just saying "fuck it, we're using this guy as runner" starting that specific game.
Wilson benched and completely ineffective.
Lance never saw light of day and is 3rd string in Dallas now after a trade
Fields is still struggling
Mac has been mediocre
That incredible QB draft seems to have only 1 actual QB in it.
Just a follow up on the formations and false starts and stuff that everyone seems so invested in. You can see how much the NFL cares about that stuff when you see their 6-man mechanics. In Washington, an official got hurt. So where did the NFL pull coverage from? The line of scrimmage. They would rather have literally nobody there to even look for line of scrimmage fouls it than potentially miss a DH.
Just a note for NCAA, 6 man mechanics we pull the back judge, since there are two other deep guys anyways. Just means one of the deep guys will have to keep their eyes on two receivers instead of one.
Just a note for NCAA, 6 man mechanics we pull the back judge, since there are two other deep guys anyways. Just means one of the deep guys will have to keep their eyes on two receivers instead of one.
home?
They don;t even play in their own state.
/coming from a fan of a team with 5.5 home states lol
Brees had a very good career at San Diego but after a very big injury the Chargers opted to move on to Phillip Rivers. He then signed with the Dolphins, who saw something they didn not like somewhere and didn't go throiugh with it so he then went to NO.
I don't really think Carr's is the same path.
Absolutely. And it was precisely in this draft class that the Niners traded a treasure trove to move to # 3.
Well, too many teams play their games far away from their "base" or city. I think Santa Ckara is farther away from San Francisco than Metlife is to New York. There is an 80% probablilty I am wrong though.
I get the geographic nitpick, and it's a long time rib, but MetLife Stadium is 9 miles from Central Park. It's all the New York metro area.
It isn't like the Angels renaming themselves to "Los Angeles" when they play 35 miles from LA.
And hey, the Pats tried to call themselves the Bay State Patriots, but the league nixed it.
The funny thing is that nobody has ever pointed out that the New York Jets and Giants actually play in NJ. I'm surprised I hadn't heard that until today.
Starting to get nervous now. Luckily have a few things to keep me busy until kickoff.
Im ready for anything on the downside. My own death during the game, meteor or nuclear strike among other things; it’s all on the table. If 8 doesn’t tear his achilles or worse, this will be better than game 1 of the 99 season.
Im ready for anything on the downside. My own death during the game, meteor or nuclear strike among other things; it’s all on the table. If 8 doesn’t tear his achilles or worse, this will be better than game 1 of the 99 season.
Get ready to be a fucking wreck before games all year if the Jets live up to expectations. But hey, much better than the alternative!
Not sure who to root for here. The Jets have serious implosion potential which could be amusing but I’m also getting a little tired of the Bills.
Jets were getting dangerously unhateable until bringing Rodgers in, now all feels right in the world. Bills will be tolerable until they win one, imo. But I say that with Buffalonian inlaws and Josh Allen on my fantasy team.
Serious question for the flag-bearer: does Rodgers even believe 9/11 happened? He loves his conspiracy theories.