2024 Dolphins: Making Waves

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Figured I would kick off the new thread seeing as the Dolphins made some news yesterday.

Xavien Howard will be released before the start of the new league year, along with Emmanuel Ogbah.

Howard was one of the most successful draft picks of the Chris Grier era, and one of the most dominant man to man corners in the league. That being said, it’s clear he’s lost a step and has struggled to stay healthy the last two years. I wish him nothing but the best moving forward.

Ogbah was a square peg in a round hole in Fangio’s scheme. Even with that being said, he was over paid and once they traded for and signed Chubb, this was always the logical outcome.

I’m very interested in seeing a year 2 Cam Smith in a different scheme and maybe with a DC that doesn’t put him in the dog house for a full season.

That being said, these moves are being made to both extend Tua and the rumors are extend Christian Wilkins. An extension for those two likely buys them another year or two of salary cap flexibility with some creative accounting.
 

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miami is in a tough spot
is tua the guy to lead them to the big game or is he a top 10-15 QB will be outmatched come playoff time

glass haif full u win the afc east getting a top 2 seed and balt and kc lose in round one giveing u homefied in the afc
emity the jets win 10-11 games and buff wins the east whild u fight with AFC North and LAC for 6/7 SEED
 

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miami is in a tough spot
is tua the guy to lead them to the big game or is he a top 10-15 QB will be outmatched come playoff time

glass haif full u win the afc east getting a top 2 seed and balt and kc lose in round one giveing u homefied in the afc
emity the jets win 10-11 games and buff wins the east whild u fight with AFC North and LAC for 6/7 SEED
I have think within the context of Miami’s team, Tua is a top 10 QB. The argument can be made that if he wasn’t in McDaniel’s offense or he didn’t have Tyreek, he would be top 15. Well, guess what? He is in Mike McDaniel’s offense, and he does have Tyreek and Waddle.

Eventually Tyreek will move on (probably when it’s time to pay Tua and Waddle), but Tua will continue to be with a head coach that builds his scheme around Tua’s strengths.

Tua looked very good in 22 before the concussions, and he just played 17 games and lead the league in passing. There’s nothing more for him to prove. Miami has to pay him, especially with the roster they’ve built.
 

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Nothing more for him to prove? Obviously we want to be fair to him and look at his whole body of work, but after his torrid start, his last 10 games of the season were nothing to write home about.

240 Yards per game (14th)
7.4 YPA (12th)
90.1 rating (19th)
12 TD / 8 INT

So, with one of the most explosive offenses in football, the last 2.5 months of the season saw Tua perform as a league average QB. If you were happy with his overall body of work and strides he took, that's fair. But I'm not sure "there's nothing left to prove" or that he should get paid like a top QB.
 

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Nothing more for him to prove? Obviously we want to be fair to him and look at his whole body of work, but after his torrid start, his last 10 games of the season were nothing to write home about.

240 Yards per game (14th)
7.4 YPA (12th)
90.1 rating (19th)
12 TD / 8 INT

So, with one of the most explosive offenses in football, the last 2.5 months of the season saw Tua perform as a league average QB. If you were happy with his overall body of work and strides he took, that's fair. But I'm not sure "there's nothing left to prove" or that he should get paid like a top QB.
yeah that is russell wilson numbers but Starting QB are going to be worth 40 mil a year going forward which is why the NFL office shouild pay that for all 32 teams without a rookie qb contact this wouild all teams at least 40 ex mil to play with
i almost think starting spots shouild a fixed number like

QB 40-60 MIL
RB 5-12 MIL
FB 1-2.5 MIL
WR 20-30 MIL
TE 7-20 MIL
LT 25-40 MIL
OG 10-20 MIL
C 15-25 MIL
DE RUSH 40-50 MIL
DT 25-30 MIL
MLB 15-25 MIL
CB 30-40 MIL
S 20-25 MIL
K 15-25 MIL
P 5 MIL
 

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Nothing more for him to prove? Obviously we want to be fair to him and look at his whole body of work, but after his torrid start, his last 10 games of the season were nothing to write home about.

240 Yards per game (14th)
7.4 YPA (12th)
90.1 rating (19th)
12 TD / 8 INT

So, with one of the most explosive offenses in football, the last 2.5 months of the season saw Tua perform as a league average QB. If you were happy with his overall body of work and strides he took, that's fair. But I'm not sure "there's nothing left to prove" or that he should get paid like a top QB.
I suppose I meant nothing to prove in terms whether or not he’s worthy of paying and keeping on the team. Not necessarily that he’s conquered the NFL.

Also, those number match up exactly when Miami’s entire offensive line went down, and his down numbers are still top half of the league. Not trying to make to many injury excuses, but it was Austin Jackson, Liam Eichenberg, and some duct tape for a stretch there.
 

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New NFLPA survey results released today. Miami ranked #1 in the NFL, with Stephen Ross receiving near perfect marks, and their family treatment improving year over year from last season.

https://nflpa.com/miami-dolphins-report-card-2024

For contrast, the Patriots ranked 29th in the NFL.

https://nflpa.com/new-england-patriots-report-card-2024
Stephen Ross can't tamper or throw games for shit, but he does serve a nice souffle!

I'm surprised they beat out the Cowboys or maybe Vegas. Would have thought all the new facilities would make a big impression.
 

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