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Discussion in 'BYTE ME: Technology discussion' started by Foulkey Reese, Aug 12, 2011.

  1. SumnerH

    SumnerH Malt Liquor Picker Dope

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    As far as I can tell there's no downside. You now get the 7th-15th gigabytes free, and then either get free-but-throttled data or can pay the same $10/GB you were already paying before to avoid throttling.
     
  2. finnVT

    finnVT Member SoSH Member

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    BTW, on a group plan (for two of us), I just got notification that the cap kicks in at 10 GB total. We never get close to that, but for others that may be a good deal. You also get a $5/mo discount for being on a group plan (edit: for the 2nd user).
     
  3. Spelunker

    Spelunker Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Yeah, this is like the consumer version of being salaried non-exempt. I'm mainly expecting a catch somewhere because, well, that's almost always how these things go.
     
  4. finnVT

    finnVT Member SoSH Member

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    I think the "catch" is that they're doing this instead of reducing the $10/GB rate on the first 6 GB. That rate doesn't seem as good as it did a few years ago, and it seems like this is there way of appeasing people that feel like their data rates aren't keeping up with the industry.
     
  5. saintnick912

    saintnick912 GINO! Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    The $299 price on the Fi version of the Moto G4 is pretty killer as well, and using a referral code can get another $20 credit after your first month.
     
  6. Hextall

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    I'm on Verizon with no ambition to leave, and would like to get a Google pixel 2 (not the XL). what's the pros/cons from getting it from either google or Verizon? Price looks to be the same.

    I assume that verizon will add its usual bloat, which yuck. but is there any other advantage to getting it at a verizon shop besides the immediacy? Price seems to be about the same.

    It's been upwards of 3 years since I bought a new phone (Samsung S5), which is usually a lifetime. All the rest of my family gets iphones straight through verizon and does it mindlessly. Before that I had a Nexus from Best buy which was easily rootable so app bloat didn't matter. So I'm really out of the loop regarding what Verizon would put on the instore pixels.
     
  7. jercra

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    I don't know what VZW provides as a warranty but Google extended the warranty to two 2 years so that may be a consideration. You may also get updates faster when bought from Google but I don't know that for sure.
     
  8. saintnick912

    saintnick912 GINO! Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    The bloat situation will be the same between the two sources as far as I know. When you install a Verizon SIM you get a few apps installed, all of which I think can be removed or disabled.
     
  9. FL4WL3SS

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    Anybody else having issues with auto correct on their Android device? Every time I select one of the auto correct options from the list, it corrects to something nonsensical.
     
  10. Omar's Wacky Neighbor

    Omar's Wacky Neighbor Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    My old LG G3 screen died, and I'm trying to replace the phone with a new LG G3 that I got from AWD.

    Both phones are branded VZW, and my carrier is TotalWireless, which is a VZW CDMA MVNO.

    Problem is, the Mobile Data box keeps unchecking itself, so I keep getting a sim card error. I went into the settings and configured the APN to the values I found online, and the phone worked fine (call/text/data) for like an hour, then I got the sim card error all over again.

    Error messge reads: YOUR MOBILE DATA IS OFF. Turn on your mobile data yada yada yada.

    Been fiddling with it, and for the life of me, I can't get the Mobile Data box to keep/save the check mark in it.

    Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.....

    EDIT: I've tried two diff TotalWireless sim cards, and an old VZW sim card, with the same results every time: unchecked Mobile Data box.
     
  11. PC Drunken Friar

    PC Drunken Friar Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    Yea, it's quite annoying. Just sort of started to happen a couple months ago.
     
  12. FL4WL3SS

    FL4WL3SS Member SoSH Member

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    Which phone do you have?
     
  13. santadevil

    santadevil Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    I turned off my auto correct about a year ago and while I still make errors from time to time, I've found it better than fighting with the phone to get the proper word in there.
     
  14. Couperin47

    Couperin47 Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    Issues with auto-correct ? Consider trying a different keyboard app.

    https://www.androidcentral.com/best-keyboard-android is a good summary of the most popular free options, also read the comments which suggest several other apps that are strong in the correct issue as well as pointing out the major flaws and differences among the leaders that the article itself does not mention.
     
  15. PC Drunken Friar

    PC Drunken Friar Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    Moto Droid force z
     
  16. Spelunker

    Spelunker Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Yes. This started a few days ago. I don't remember if I installed a new update on the interim.

    That said, this has happened in the past and was quickly fixed. It mainly affected me (then and now) in forum WYSIWYGs. Like this.
     
  17. charlieoscar

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    Don't know if this only applies to Android phones but I just got an alert from T-Mobile about number porting, i.e., hackers port your number to a new carrier or SIM card. It's not restricted to T-Mobile but that provider seems to be more susceptible because of leaked/hacked info. This allows people to use "forgot my password" to gain entry to your accounts. I'm sure someone here knows more about this and can provide a better explanation.
     
  18. Caspir

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    Not much to add since the phone has been out for a few months, but using a Pixel 2 XL has me wondering what the fuck I was thinking with Samsung devices. I've always gone with a Galaxy (I did have an HTC Incredible way back when, but), and holy fuck. Their version of Android is pure cartoon bullshit, and this phone is fantastic. I don't have the blue tint issue, at least from what I can see, and everything about it is a major step up from TouchWiz crap. Losing all the worthless Samsung apps is an added bonus, and the only thing I will miss is Samsung Pay since it works on magnetic stripe readers, even though I can count on one hand the times I've had to do that.
     
  19. drbretto

    drbretto guidence counselor SoSH Member

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    Does anyone know if there's a way to change which volume is controlled by default when you hit the volume up and down buttons?

    I don't want to change the volume of my "ringtone" pretty much ever (it's on vibrate forever), but if I hit the volume button while the phone is buffering a song or loading the funny video I'm trying to watch discretely at work, it defaults to the ringer volume instead of the media volume unless there's already some audio playing. I have since found the little button on the top-right I can hit to pick the right volume control, but is there any way to make that default?

    Edit: Found an app for it: Rocker Locker. Free, and does this and only this.
     
    #3869 drbretto, Mar 5, 2018
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  20. glennhoffmania

    glennhoffmania but still failing Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    I'm having a stupid issue with Google music. Not sure where else to post it.

    I used to buy music on Amazon. I decided to try Google. I went to the play music app, bought a song, added it to my library. No issues. Then I tried to download it so I can add it to my Shuttle play list. It won't work. I see the file in my file manager but when I open it it just says "null" and I can't add it to my Shuttle library. I then downloaded it onto my computer, emailed it to myself and downloaded it again on my phone. Nothing. I did one of those online help chats with Google. After 30 minutes she couldn't make it happen either so I gave up.

    It can't be this difficult. If you purchase music on Google play music how do you get it on your phone so you can play it offline?
     
  21. saintnick912

    saintnick912 GINO! Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Anything in the "Library" section should have a download button when you click into it. Then it downloads and you can set the app to "Downloaded Only" and play anything you downloaded.

    In terms of playing it in other apps or getting the raw files, I haven't tried that. According to this article (https://support.google.com/googleplaymusic/answer/1250232?hl=en) you can install Music Manager on your computer and "Download Free and Purchased".
     
  22. glennhoffmania

    glennhoffmania but still failing Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Thanks. I ended up going back to Amazon and it works well. I was really surprised at how awful the play music option is, and that the tech support rep couldn't solve the issue.
     
  23. EddieYost

    EddieYost has a special friend in GHoff Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    Its like I dont even know you anymore.
     
  24. Omar's Wacky Neighbor

    Omar's Wacky Neighbor Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Amazon Warehouse is knocking an extra 20% off some pricier Android phones. Note8 in Like New were flying out the door for $550 + tax. Still some Galaxy S8 around $420, and S8+ in the $455-480 range.
     
  25. santadevil

    santadevil Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    I'm potentially looking at upgrading my Samsung Note 5 to a Huawei P20pro in the next month when our local carrier gets them in.
    I know there won't much, if any availability in the US, but does anyone have any recent experience with Huawei products at all?

    I'm slightly apprehensive about it being a Chinese company, but am I being a worry-wort, or should I expect my phone activities to all be tracked by the Chinese hackers?

    The only reason I'm looking to upgrade is that I'm having more and more battery life issues with my phone. I end up using it a lot for work.
    I have loved the Note 5 since I got it and have always went Samsung Note phones since I joined the smart phone revolution, but I also don't really want to upgrade and pay more money, etc. etc. This Huawei phone has caught my eye and I've watched a lot of review videos and such, so I'm kind of torn.

    Looks like I have some time to decide as our local carrier won't be getting them in until mid-May, but would appreciate some additional info if anyone has anything to share.

    edit/ And right after I posted this, I read this article: https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/14/17011246/huawei-phones-safe-us-intelligence-chief-fears

    edit 2/ I'm also a legend in my own mind...don't work for the government or anything
     
    #3875 santadevil, Apr 18, 2018
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  26. Joe Sixpack

    Joe Sixpack Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Don't know about that specific phone but Huawei made the Nexus 6p, which was (for me) a great phone, but many people had battery issues with the phone.
     
  27. gtmtnbiker

    gtmtnbiker Member SoSH Member

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    I only have experience with Windows phones and iphones. My daughter has a Galaxy S7 Edge phone and recently changed her login to use swype instead of PIN. She got locked out of her phone because she forgot her swype combo. I was surprised that it didn't give you the fallback option of using a PIN like you can on Windows/iOS. Did we overlook something?
     
  28. santadevil

    santadevil Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    I'm sure on the Samsung's that you can go back to your PIN in case you do lock yourself out

    But I'm not 100% sure. I haven't used a lock on my phone since I got this Note 5 a couple years back
     
  29. santadevil

    santadevil Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    Quick update, I actually got to play with a P20 pro in the wild this weekend for a few hours.
    The camera is amazing and overall I enjoyed the experience. Took some night mode shots during the day and play with a ton of the camera settings. Very impressive.

    A touch taller than the Note 5, but feels really good in hand.
    Better sound through the speaker(s) than the Note 5, which is a big deal to me.

    I had read a bunch of reviews and watched Youtube video reviews as well and played with the things that the reviewers said caused them issues, like Google Maps taking forever, but I didn't seem to have those issues. Sounds like it may just be select phones having those issues. Screens was comparable.

    I'm very certain this will be my next phone about a month from now.
     
  30. jercra

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    I had a 6P and if I didn't get to replace it for free with a Pixel XL before getting my Pixel XL 2 I may have chosen to light it on fire over getting $200 for it on ebay. It was the most infuriating device I've owned maybe ever. The battery was terrible and made worse by going from 30% to power off with no warning. I'll never buy a Huawei device again after that experience, especially when compared to the experience I've had for the past 8 months with a Pixel XL 2.
     
  31. OrlandoMerced

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    If it doesn’t give you the “forgot pattern?” option after trying several times,
    you should be able to use android device manager from another computer. Google the site. Login with the same google account that is on the phone and then lock it and set a temporary unlock code.
     
  32. gtmtnbiker

    gtmtnbiker Member SoSH Member

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    I'll have to have her try this next time. She wouldn't let me look at her phone because apparently she tried it enough times and a few more attempts would cause the phone to get wiped out. In the end, she wiped her phone and restored from backup. Most of it got restored but did lose a little bit of data.
     
  33. santadevil

    santadevil Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    Thanks, that's good to know as well. I'm still worried about taking the plunge and have been reading and watching S9+ reviews as well...I can't make up my mind
     
  34. ElUno20

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    Anyone have a good app that can access notification sounds to turn them off?
     
  35. JerBear

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    My sister broke her phone; anyone have an old Verizon compatible phone they're like to sell cheap? She doesn't need anything too fancy, she has been running one of the Galaxy J3 variants.

    Figured I'd check here before trolling Facebook/Craigslist.
     
  36. Couperin47

    Couperin47 Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    Recommendation. I'm probably not the standard user by SOSH standards, I don't game or consume much media or sports via my phone. been using a Moto X (2nd generation) US Cellular model as it's the best carrier in most of NH. It's been serviceable, stable and had about the best reception, also it comes very close to stock Android, but US Cellular never provides updates so it's been 5.1 Lollipop.

    After 3 years it was time to upgrade. I wound up with a Moto e4 Plus that runs 7.1.2 Nougat. Unlike the standard e4 it has a larger, better screen (5.5 "), a better cpu and fingerprint sensor. Instead of a 2400 mAh replaceable battery, you get a fixed 5000 mAh battery. Standard miniusb power and normal headphone socket and no wireless charging. US Cellular always only offers a low memory (16 Gig) option, which is frustrating, but there is a micro SD slot, although Android still makes that memory of limited value/access.

    Nougat is so much better/stable, the Moto experience is so close to stock it's unlikely you would bother rooting, reception is much better and the phone seems to have easily 90% of the functionality of a top end iPhone and US Cellular offers it at $120 payable as 30 months of $4/per month. I'll guess if you do heavy gaming it turns into a slug, but otherwise it's a serious value.
     
  37. Omar's Wacky Neighbor

    Omar's Wacky Neighbor Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    #3887 Omar's Wacky Neighbor, May 9, 2018
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  38. Tim Naehrings Girl

    Tim Naehrings Girl Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Does anyone have the S9?
     
  39. santadevil

    santadevil Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    I went ahead with the P20 Pro purchase after a lot of deliberation.
    I picked it up last Thursday.

    There are a lot of differences compared to my Note 5, but I do like it so far.

    Went through Saturday/Sunday on a single charge and plugged it in with about 18% left on the battery when I plugged it in last night.
    Didn't use it intensively this weekend, but did use it a normal amount for myself.

    Screen is great and so is the camera.
    Connects to my car Bluetooth way faster, but still not immediately.

    Having one small notification issue with WhatsApp, but I think I'm on track to fix it.

    Really enjoying it for the most part.
     
  40. Omar's Wacky Neighbor

    Omar's Wacky Neighbor Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    samsung.com has some very decent prices on Galaxy S8 and S8+ if you use an edu or approved work email. Prices vary a bit from carrier to carrier (but a new line/activation is NOT required): the S8 starts at $360, S8+ at $425
     
  41. ElUno20

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    Primarily in the camera department, is paying for the newer s9 (over the s8) worth it?

    Non-iphone, what other phones are in that top tier class? The newest LG?
     
  42. SumnerH

    SumnerH Malt Liquor Picker Dope

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    Pixel 2 XL.
     
  43. Caspir

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    Yup. I have never had an experience where I've liked a phone past the initial "shiny new thing" phase until I got a Pixel 2 XL. The thing is absolutely perfect in every way, from battery life and other basic things, to the random and actually useful shortcuts and features. If I could change one thing it would the the USB-C charger, but whatever. I'm a heavy, heavy user, and I've never even teetered on the edge of having my battery die. Multiple flights, podcasts/music, GPS, checking in for flights, checking into my hotel, pulling up my calendars and sending emails, etc., and the thing still has 30% at the end of the day. I love this phone, and it's the first time I'm not itching for whatever is next up.
     
  44. jayhoz

    jayhoz Ronald Bartel Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    Get used to it. It's nothing but USB-C from here on out for Android.
     
  45. Dernells Casket n Flagon

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    USB-C is fantastic. I can charge my phone and Lenovo laptop with the same cable, which will even power a Mac Book.

    Sounds like it's your first or only device with it, but pretty soon your micro USB cables will be in a pile with your mini USBs.
     
  46. jercra

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    Yeah, I don't understand. USB-C is superior in every way to A. What's the issue?
     
  47. Caspir

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    You nailed it. It's more of an adjustment to the new way of doing things, but I can't just plug it into a USB port on my laptop for a quick boost when I'm traveling. I always need to have the plug (until I finally breakdown and buy the USB-C to USB adapter of course). This issue is on its way out, but I am just in that spot where I haven't bought other new devices yet, so this is the only thing I have that requires a USB-C cable.
     
  48. jercra

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    Or you could just buy a bunch or really cheap cables that are A on one end and C on the other. They don't have to be C on both ends.
     
  49. Dernells Casket n Flagon

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    This is the solution.

    At the moment, I think I probably have 2 USB-C to USB-C cables. And probably 4-6 USB-C to USB-A cables.

    I also bought a pack of these, though I find myself using them less than expected. Great to store one in my car, work, travel bag though:
     
  50. Caspir

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    I did not know this existed. You are my hero today.
     

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