I mean I know it's fun to blame the Red Sox players, but give Sale some credit. There's not very many left-hand hitters that have any idea where his slider is going. Everybody swings at his shit out of the zone because most guys can't even tell if it's a slider or a fastball until it's too late.The most favorable thing I see for Chris is that our hitters are chasing pitches outside the zone.
I'm sure if they keep doing the same thing something will change.20 LOB and 1-20 RISP in the series. Ridiculous.
Hey, absolutely. He's around the plate. He's gonna get double digit K's tonight. But we are helping him too.I mean I know it's fun to blame the Red Sox players, but give Sale some credit. There's not very many left-hand hitters that have any idea where his slider is going. Everybody swings at his shit out of the zone because most guys can't even tell if it's a slider or a fastball until it's too late.
He’s been fairly mediocre for the Braves too, until this series.Wasn’t that guy awful for the Mariners?
Yeah. Something like that.Because Raffy makes $10M more a year?
I think the assumption was the team was unlikely to contend and another injury riddled season would make Sale harder to move. They liked Grissom and prob thought Sale needed a fresh start. This Sale fronting the Sox staff would be pretty amazing though.Tell me again why we traded Sale before the season?
Especially to a team we were going to face.
Could we not have gotten the same return or more for him at the trade deadline?
1) Grissom is a good player with a shot at being very good. It's a deal I would make every time, even in hindsight, and even if Sale is very good for the Braves for the next three years.Tell me again why we traded Sale before the season?
Especially to a team we were going to face.
Could we not have gotten the same return or more for him at the trade deadline?
Purely to piss off goobers.Tell me again why we traded Sale before the season?
Especially to a team we were going to face.
Could we not have gotten the same return or more for him at the trade deadline?
Also, don’t teams play all teams every year now ?1) Grissom is a good player with a shot at being very good. It's a deal I would make every time, even in hindsight, and even if Sale is very good for the Braves for the next three years.
2) They only play the Braves four times this year. A GM who uses "Do we play this team during the regular season" as a question to decide whether or not a trade is good for the future of the team is a bad GM.
3) Not if, like last year, and the year before, and the year before.... he was injured at the trade deadline, no.
To be fair, you wouldn't know that if you didn't watch last year.Also, don’t teams play all teams every year now ?
The Rays and Jays might have something to say about that.Won’t be long at this rate before the Sox are in their customary spot, last place in the AL East.
I’ll take the underWon’t be long at this rate before the Sox are in their customary spot, last place in the AL East.
Is there a team they weren't going to face?Tell me again why we traded Sale before the season?
Especially to a team we were going to face.
Because the guy hasn’t thrown a full season in 6 years. JFC.Tell me again why we traded Sale before the season?
Especially to a team we were going to face.
Could we not have gotten the same return or more for him at the trade deadline?
Nailed itThis’ll be interesting. I anticipate him shutting us down for 6. He's still a beast.
Pitching has not been this team’s problem.Tell me again why we traded Sale before the season?
Especially to a team we were going to face.
Could we not have gotten the same return or more for him at the trade deadline?
Justin Turner is hitting .440 against lefties this season.This isn’t a team that is going to score many runs off of good LH starters.
Great minds?Why are you writing posts from my brain?
I think this was a very ballsy trade by Breslow, and it could work out great for the Sox, but you're making it sound like it'll be viewed as a good trade even if Sale stays healthy and puts up 3 top tier seasons for the Braves. That seems like a stretch. Needless to say the Braves would be incredibly lucky to get 3 seasons like that from Sale, but luck is often a huge factor in the success or failure of such moves.1) Grissom is a good player with a shot at being very good. It's a deal I would make every time, even in hindsight, and even if Sale is very good for the Braves for the next three years.
2025 and 2026 are irrelevant to the trade. Sale was only under contract for this year when he was shipped out. Grissom just needs to be a good hitter for this to be a positive trade for the Red Sox. The pitching is fine, but the lineup needs some help.I think this was a very ballsy trade by Breslow, and it could work out great for the Sox, but you're making it sound like it'll be viewed as a good trade even if Sale stays healthy and puts up 3 top tier seasons for the Braves. That seems like a stretch. Needless to say the Braves would be incredibly lucky to get 3 seasons like that from Sale, but luck is often a huge factor in the success or failure of such moves.
Seriously.Genuinely don’t understand how anyone can dislike this man. He’s a gem. I hope Fenway gives him a roaring ovation in June.
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For the sake of full information, his contract with the Sox included a vesting option for 2025 if he finished in the top 10 in 2024 AL Cy Young voting and was not on the IL at the end of the season.2025 and 2026 are irrelevant to the trade. Sale was only under contract for this year when he was shipped out.