This is a good stat but somewhat misleading. Giannis does not win MVP because of his half-court prowess. I went back to his FGAs and I counted (roughly) 3 half-court FGs The rest of the FGs are in transition or on second-chance opportunities.
This is a good stat but somewhat misleading. Giannis does not win MVP because of his half-court prowess. I went back to his FGAs and I counted (roughly) 3 half-court FGs The rest of the FGs are in transition or on second-chance opportunities.
You're assuming the C's followed protocol. It's possible JB always spends his time alone in the team's hotel room. I'm sure there are some NBA players who are like that, and were like that prior to covid.Let's hypothesize, just for the sake of argument, that Jaylen is unvaccinated.
League policy for unvaccinated players includes a lot of restrictions.
https://www.nba.com/news/nba-releases-protocols-to-teams-for-virus-safety-this-season
Given the nature of the restrictions, a whole lot of people would know. Anyone in the Celtics organization who has access to locker rooms (ie, cleaning and maintenance staff) would know if Brown's locker is as far away from the rest of the team as possible. Likely, staff at any team visited by the C's would also know.
Can a young star player in the NBA spend an entire season confined to the team hotel during road trips without word of that getting out?
Too many people would have to be in the know here for it to remain secret.
Not to speak for Eddie, but I believe his point is that it's extremely unlikely that news of Jaylen's unvaccinated status would not have leaked at some point during the season. It's hard for five people to keep a secret, let alone an organization with as many players, coaches, officials and staffers as an NBA team.You're assuming the C's followed protocol. It's possible JB always spends his time alone in the team's hotel room. I'm sure there are some NBA players who are like that, and were like that prior to covid.
This is how conspiracy theories work. Having strongly asserted that something is possible (Brown not vaccinated), you are so invested in that that any contrary arguments/evidence must be discredited.You're assuming the C's followed protocol. It's possible JB always spends his time alone in the team's hotel room. I'm sure there are some NBA players who are like that, and were like that prior to covid.
JB is VP of players union. If it were found out that he was ignoring protocol while other players had to follow it,I would presume that would be bad for his position.You're assuming the C's followed protocol. It's possible JB always spends his time alone in the team's hotel room. I'm sure there are some NBA players who are like that, and were like that prior to covid.
I think everyone is vaccinated. I've said so for awhile. You are the one hypothesizing. I am hypothesizing with you. Don't go down the rabbit hole if you don't want people to follow you.This is how conspiracy theories work. Having strongly asserted that something is possible (Brown not vaccinated), you are so invested in that that any contrary arguments/evidence must be discredited.
In this particular case “Boston Celtics not complying with league Covid-19 restrictions” is itself, a noteworthy scoop - one that would be bigger than the league and widely known by Many league personnel.
The possibility that Brown is unvaccinated depends on the staggering incompetence of each and every reported covering the Celtics and the NBA.
This is where I was until no reporter did their job in Philly with Thybulle which leads me to believe that this is one of those hush-hush things that a beat reporter has to keep quiet about. Which totally sucks but that’s the reality of who runs the show today.We continue to worry about this even though a good reporter would have sussed out his ineligibility by now, if he was ineligible?
Until it becomes “a story” then the beat reporters have to do their job or they lose their credibility as reporters. No one cared if Thybulle was vaccinated or not. The “Are the Celtics unvaccinated” story has been in the national news for weeks. If they knew something and did not report it, their career is at risk.This is where I was until no reporter did their job in Philly with Thybulle which leads me to believe that this is one of those hush-hush things that a beat reporter has to keep quiet about. Which totally sucks but that’s the reality of who runs the show today.
You don’t think it’s a story in Philadelphia that Thybulle is not vaccinated? There has been a story regarding Covid protocols all season for all NBA fans who aren’t living under a rock and it is the reporters responsibility to identify which players on their team may or may not be vaccinated. Why didn’t any Philly beat writer not report the protocols that would be consistent with Thybulle being unvaccinated? Arguably the same reason no Celtics reporter has done so with our team. If they want to keep their job and their access they have to play the game the way the team wants it played. This has gone on forever it’s not new. I didn’t believe this was occuring with Covid protocols but now we have clear evidence that it was at least in Philly.Until it becomes “a story” then the beat reporters have to do their job or they lose their credibility as reporters. No one cared if Thybulle was vaccinated or not. The “Are the Celtics unvaccinated” story has been in the national news for weeks. If they knew something and did not report it, their career is at risk.
As someone who has worked in sports media for nearly 35 years, I can tell you there's not much access to lose. The days of beat writers traveling on commercial flights with teams and drinking with players in hotel bars (and then staying silent about players' off-court escapades) are long gone. Beat writers get a few minutes at the end of selected practices and then ask questions at formal press conferences after games. The pandemic ended the era of open locker rooms, and I'm not sure the NBA will ever go back.You don’t think it’s a story in Philadelphia that Thybulle is not vaccinated? There has been a story regarding Covid protocols all season for all NBA fans who aren’t living under a rock and it is the reporters responsibility to identify which players on their team may or may not be vaccinated. Why didn’t any Philly beat writer not report the protocols that would be consistent with Thybulle being unvaccinated? Arguably the same reason no Celtics reporter has done so with our team. If they want to keep their job and their access they have to play the game the way the team wants it played. This has gone on forever it’s not new. I didn’t believe this was occuring with Covid protocols but now we have clear evidence that it was at least in Philly.
Beat writers for NBA teams are the first to report inquires, game status, and transactions via Twitter (aside from the Woj Bombs, big Sham news, etc.As someone who has worked in sports media for nearly 35 years, I can tell you there's not much access to lose. The days of beat writers traveling on commercial flights with teams and drinking with players in hotel bars (and then staying silent about players' off-court escapades) are long gone. Beat writers get a few minutes at the end of selected practices and then ask questions at formal press conferences after games. The pandemic ended the era of open locker rooms, and I'm not sure the NBA will ever go back.
If a reporter knew Jaylen was unvaccinated and didn't report as much during the regular season, that would be cause for termination at respectable media outlets. That's a big story. You don't "lose access" for reporting negative news that is accurate. Mannix is probably the one who should be worrying, given that Al says he's vaccinated.
Woj and Shams don't miss much. I find it hard to believe they wouldn't have heard rumblings and then followed up with reports if Jaylen were unvaccinated.
Not only was it completely wrong, it was EASILY disproven, because he said Tatum, Brown and Horford weren't on an injury report when they were, and that Horford had played in a game when he had not played. It was really bad.As far as I can tell, this whole thing started because Brian Windhorst reported something that turned out to be completely wrong.
So maybe there's nothing to report. If I understand what you're saying, you're suggesting that beat writers or other media members have been sitting on Jaylen-is-unvaccinated reports out of fear of losing access. I say there's no way that's happening. Somebody in the media world would want to be the one to break what would be a huge story in the NBA.Beat writers for NBA teams are the first to report inquires, game status, and transactions via Twitter (aside from the Woj Bombs, big Sham news, etc.
To be clear, I don’t know what’s going on but it’s much more fishy in Boston after nobody reporting on Thybulle when every player in the locker room knew and was openly discussed per direct quotes of players. If a team wanted to freeze out a beat reporter from info to do their job it wouldn’t appear to be very difficult to do.
Yes, but that would require more work than taking dictation for Klutch & LeBron....
He didn't need a second source, all he had to do was look at boxscore.
The questions about who is and who isn’t vaccinated has been ongoing all season. If your job is to report there is always something to report regarding your teams players vaccination status. Which player(s) traveled beyond the teams hotel on the road? Which players were out at restaurants, bars, entertainment venues, etc in their home market? Who is out eating with other teammates? Whose locker is directly next to another players locker? Who is unmasked when in close contact with others? Etc etc. How difficult would it be to clear each player based on natural observations? Not very hard. Instead, we get tweets learning all about Matt Freakin Ryan. LOL!So maybe there's nothing to report. If I understand what you're saying, you're suggesting that beat writers or other media members have been sitting on Jaylen-is-unvaccinated reports out of fear of losing access. I say there's no way that's happening. Somebody in the media world would want to be the one to break what would be a huge story in the NBA.
I hope that we do, so that we can stop hearing this horseshit. Honestly. Can someone please start a "do we have a vaccination problem with potential Toronto series" thread so I can stop reading this?They may not even get Toronto so we may never know.
I'm with you. I don't see why it's even worth discussing until they play the games. if/when a Celtics player is sitting out, then lets talk about it. Until then, it's a non issue. Worry about it doesn't change anyone's vaccination status.I hope that we do, so that we can stop hearing this horseshit. Honestly. Can someone please start a "do we have a vaccination problem with potential Toronto series" thread so I can stop reading this?
They are all 7 games.Can’t recall, is round 1 5 games? Obviously a cake walk against Chicago would be better, but there are probably some advantages to staying sharp and beating Brooklyn from a morale/confidence perspective
With Atlanta it was as simple as Josh Smith morphing into Garnett’s MiniMe during the home games (I don’t think he ever played as well, offensively, again). With Cleveland it was as simple as the fact that the Cavs were built around a player that the year before had dragged a D League team to the NBA Finals.I remember watching this run...and wondering, as a pretty casual basketball/NBA fan, what could possibly explain the home/road discrepancy. Soft team that would crumble on the road/under pressure? The end result suggests otherwise. Conclusively. Random variance that can happen in any short series (or three)? Possibly. Questionable officiating? Sure, wouldn't be the NBA without a bit of it here and there.
Hopefully this year's vintage rolls, regardless of who they match up with, or what the refs have to say about it.
If the Celtics are playing a full lineup, we'll know that there is, in fact, a problem with vaccinations. Otherwise, I agree.The Cavs catch a huge break by getting a team with a playoff spot locked up to avoid the 9/10 game. I don’t expect to see any relevant Celtic or Grizzlies player on the floor tomorrow regardless of other results.
Heh! I hadn’t even thought of that but yes this would certainly add more fuel to that fire. I need a Celtics win or a Sixers loss to secure my two Celtics division wagers from 5-6 weeks ago so I would love to see starters out there.If the Celtics are playing a full lineup, we'll know that there is, in fact, a problem with vaccinations. Otherwise, I agree.
I think this statement is false as a matter of logic. I don't think they have a vaccination issue and I also don't think they will tank this one. Not every team that can advantage itself via tanking actually does.If the Celtics are playing a full lineup, we'll know that there is, in fact, a problem with vaccinations. Otherwise, I agree.
Not saying this would be the reason if we ran out the starters it would just be something you don’t see teams normally do in Game 82 even if there was for a seeding advantage. Not sure I’ve ever seen a team go this route for a disadvantage.I think this statement is false as a matter of logic. I don't think they have a vaccination issue and I also don't think they will tank this one. Not every team that can advantage itself via tanking actually does.
Grizz + 76ers ML parlay is +220. Thinking about it.Heh! I hadn’t even thought of that but yes this would certainly add more fuel to that fire. I need a Celtics win or a Sixers loss to secure my two Celtics division wagers from 5-6 weeks ago so I would love to see starters out there.
I hate you.Grizz + 76ers ML parlay is +220. Thinking about it.
Or Ime doesn’t want the team to take their foot off the gas. With the play in, the next game they’ll play will be Saturday at the earliest. If they rest Tatum then he’d have 10 days off from games, enough time for rust. I think the play in tourney changes some of the calculus on resting guys in game 82If the Celtics are playing a full lineup, we'll know that there is, in fact, a problem with vaccinations. Otherwise, I agree.
Good point about teams getting a long layoff. Let’s see how each team approaches today as it will be interesting.Or Ime doesn’t want the team to take their foot off the gas. With the play in, the next game they’ll play will be Saturday at the earliest. If they rest Tatum then he’d have 10 days off from games, enough time for rust. I think the play in tourney changes some of the calculus on resting guys in game 82
The median team offensive efficiency for April was 115.4, which over the full season would be the second best offense in the league. Ben Taylor talked about this a bit at thinking basketball - they really changed the officiating midway through the season and offense has exploded.
How soon we forget the Josh Smith/Corey Brewer comeback vs. the Clippers: View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvex-Puxp_0With Atlanta it was as simple as Josh Smith morphing into Garnett’s MiniMe during the home games (I don’t think he ever played as well, offensively, again).
Like HRB, the Thybulle situation leads me to believe that teams aren't bothering to follow the protocols anymore, and if they are, nobody is reporting on them for whatever reason.Let's hypothesize, just for the sake of argument, that Jaylen is unvaccinated.
League policy for unvaccinated players includes a lot of restrictions.
https://www.nba.com/news/nba-releases-protocols-to-teams-for-virus-safety-this-season
Given the nature of the restrictions, a whole lot of people would know. Anyone in the Celtics organization who has access to locker rooms (ie, cleaning and maintenance staff) would know if Brown's locker is as far away from the rest of the team as possible. Likely, staff at any team visited by the C's would also know.
Can a young star player in the NBA spend an entire season confined to the team hotel during road trips without word of that getting out?
Too many people would have to be in the know here for it to remain secret.
I think the other question is whether the improved play translates into crunchtime. There haven't been many close games with this team since January, and I'm still nervous that the offense breakdowns and loses all flow in tight games.I think the big questions are:
- This Celtic team's calling card is its defense. Can opposing teams figure out a way to scheme around it given the benefit of a seven game series? Alternatively, were the Celtics playing at a higher level of intensity than typical regular season teams, such that when everyone steps up in the playoffs the Celtics don't have as much capacity to step up.
- Will Rob return in anything resembling full health and effectiveness?
- Assuming they get Brooklyn in round one, how will that work? Can Durant, Irving, and Simmons (assuming he's back) achieve with talent what they lack in chemistry (having played so few games together this year, zero in Ben's case)?