Are NFL Salaries Rational?

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The sharp decline in RB pay got me to wondering what the dynamics are that drive NFL salaries for veterans. The NFL is a situation where

1) For every position, every team must have (at least) some fixed number of players, and
2) There is a hard cap.

Theoretically this means that player salaries should be governed entirely by

1) The distribution of player skills within a given position group, and
2) The position's contribution to winning.

This is simplifying many other factors such as rookie contracts, switching costs, the fact that a player's skills are not equally valuable for all systems or team circumstances etc. But it gives a baseline. To test this out I made a little script simulating teams operating in a salary cap structure. I assigned players to positions, with skill represented as a single number. Skills were distributed normally with mean 0 and a standard deviation per-position group, representing both the spread of skill as well as the relative impact to winning.

Teams were then allotted a budget. Their goal was to maximize the sum of skills on the team. Many rounds of bidding were simulated, where a team could exchange one of their players for a better player, provided they offered that player a raise and it would fit under the cap. After enough rounds the distribution of salaries becomes more or less stable, and I was able to recreate more or less the distribution of salary allocations we see within position groups in the NFL (ignoring rookie contracts).

This little model's resulting distribution of salaries is really dependent on how you assign variation to the positional groups, and doesn't model things like player loyalty, system fit, team's in GFIN mode or tanking, etc. I am not an economist so I am sure this is something that has been done already, but I found it interesting.

Especially interesting was how slight changes to a distribution of player skills could result in vastly different assignments of budget. For example, infusing the quarterback group with several median-skill players greatly reduced the top echelon of salaries, because a lot of the bottom end of the salary distribution was to avoid having to have a really really bad player. Other positions were less variable based on a few changes simply because there are 3 WR's per team, 2 tackles etc etc. Which also got me wondering about whether these really big, really long QB contracts are taking on a risk that the marginal value of a QB might fall quite a bit with the infusion of just a few more good young quarterbacks.

Let me know if none of this makes any sense.
 

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The sharp decline in RB pay got me to wondering what the dynamics are that drive NFL salaries for veterans. The NFL is a situation where

1) For every position, every team must have (at least) some fixed number of players, and
2) There is a hard cap.

Theoretically this means that player salaries should be governed entirely by

1) The distribution of player skills within a given position group, and
2) The position's contribution to winning.
A lot of what you wrote make sense to me.

As far as RBs, the problem is that the difference between the 5th and 35th best Rb in the league is simply not that big. And there is a large supply every year coming into the league challenging for a spot in that 20-50th best RB range. They are so fungible.

Having a top 5 QB vs the 35th best QB in the league is a massive difference... we're talking Super Bowl contender vs non playoff team. Even getting a top 15 QB has a ton of value vs 30-40 range.

If there were a bunch of backup QBs that could hold their own and do as well as an average NFL starter, things would be different. But for whatever reason, they can't.
 

radsoxfan

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Not in baseball or golf, or the non-stars in NBA imho.

NHL and NFL yes.
Underpaid relative to what? The amount of effort they put in? Their skill level? How much better they are than someone who can't make a professional roster?

Seems like salaries are directly related to sport popularity (revenue) and inversely related to roster size.

NHL has a lot less revenue and the NFL has 53 man rosters. I assume salaries end up mostly based on those 2 facts.
 

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From my understanding of football economics, everything is weighted to favour the teams over the players. The franchise tag - or more accurately the threat of a franchise tag - plays a major role in reducing value for players particularly QBs.

In that vein the long term QB contracts rarely carry any risk for the teams. If the QBs play badly the contracts get jettisoned.
 

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Underpaid relative to what? The amount of effort they put in? Their skill level? How much better they are than someone who can't make a professional roster?

Seems like salaries are directly related to sport popularity (revenue) and inversely related to roster size.

NHL has a lot less revenue and the NFL has 53 man rosters. I assume salaries end up mostly based on those 2 facts.
Some may object to the revenue split with ownership which is how I believe the cap is determined.
 

radsoxfan

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Some may object to the revenue split with ownership which is how I believe the cap is determined.
Fair enough, admittedly I don't follow it too closely but aren't all the sports in the 50/50 range?

I don't think any player are getting 25% or 75% or anything like that.
 

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Fair enough, admittedly I don't follow it too closely but aren't all the sports in the 50/50 range?

I don't think any player are getting 25% or 75% or anything like that.
I don’t have a position on it. Only relaying the argument I’ve seen put forward elsewhere.
 

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I would add a third item to your list

3. When in a player’s career do they provide peak output/contribution.

As with any transaction, leverage has a powerful impact on the ultimate outcome. I don’t know the statistics, but it sure seems like most running backs provide their peak value/output under their rookie contracts when they have no leverage to determine their pay. Even amongst the superstar running backs who get that lucrative second contract very few end up making it halfway through their contract performing at a high level and almost none ever see a third. The only way running backs have a shot at increasing pay as a position group is by providing more value/output later in their careers.

Leveon Bell
Ezekiel Elliott
Todd Gurley
Dalvin Cook
 
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All athletes in the major sports are severely underpaid, no?
Athletes in the four major North American professional sports earn somewhere between 48 and 54 percentage of revenue, depending on which sport and which source you believe. That’s a smaller share than players in the major European soccer leagues receive. But those leagues generally have 20 teams each, compared to 30-32 for the North American leagues. Three of the four North American leagues would shrink substantially if they adopted something like the European model.

I agree that NFL players are chronically underpaid. I view the state of play in the other three leagues as the outcome of a collective bargaining process playing out over the course of decades where players have, wittingly or not, opted for more jobs at lower pay, with pay scales generally tilted in favor of players with more seniority.
 
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Athletes in the four major North American professional sports earn somewhere between 48 and 54 percentage of revenue, depending on which sport and which source you believe. That’s a smaller share than players in the major European soccer leagues receive. But those leagues generally have 20 teams each, compared to 30-32 for the North American leagues. Three of the four North American leagues would shrink substantially if they adopted something like the European model.

I agree that NFL players are chronically underpaid. I view the state of play in the other three leagues as the outcome of a collective bargaining process playing out over the course of decades where players have, wittingly or not, opted for more jobs at lower pay, with pay scales generally tilted in favor of players with more seniority.
I used to work for a Canadian bank, and one of the guys I used to work with was tight with the former head of the NHL players’ Union. He came to our office somewhere around like 2003 or something (it was during a big labor stoppage around that time) and he, despite ending up being wrong about a lot of other things in hindsight, seemed pretty in tune to a few things, at least at the time. Which back then seemed to be that there were more strength in numbers among player union members. He saw it very much as a numbers game back then, where if you had (say) an NBA team with 11 no-name players and one superstar, you could effectively turn those players against the superstar to even up wages among the players as a whole and increase total wages, as the stars would still get paid. That hasn’t seemed to be the direction of things lately, where superstar talent is paid for, and dearly. And I wonder why the more egalitarian dynamic isn’t a pressure among NFLPA members, most of whom aren’t Deshaun Watson or Joe Burrow or Mahomes or Nick Bosa - and who have more voting power in total. Is it just that it’s a transient group? Or is there more to it?