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Depending on the money, great news. Just hope he can stay healthy. Now get him a good partner to play with as the 2nd pairing.
How’s a guy gonna opine that it’s a good move without seeing the money and duration for a guy who’s possibly one moderate head hit from Ondrej Kase?
Same thing could have been said about Patrice Bergeron all these years. Hard to really account for it one way or another.How’s a guy gonna opine that it’s a good move without seeing the money and duration for a guy who’s possibly one moderate head hit from Ondrej Kase?
This! I was one of those people/morons who thought they should trade Bergeron many moons ago because he kept getting concussed, but he clearly figured out something about positioning himself on the ice to help prevent those from happening as much.Same thing could have been said about Patrice Bergeron all these years. Hard to really account for it one way or another.
That's an excellent deal. Maybe a year more than I'd like, but to get that AAV, I'm sold.It's 6-years at $4.1 million AAV
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If he can stay healthy those last three years will be a bargain.That's an excellent deal. Maybe a year more than I'd like, but to get that AAV, I'm sold.
This is a fantastic deal.It's 6-years at $4.1 million AAV
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I think it also speaks to the culture of the team and the environment. Guys seem to genuinely like playing for them. That definitely wasn’t always the case. The new training facility helps greatly.Sweeney is very good at re-signing and extending his own players. Probably his biggest strength as a GM. This is the polar opposite of Chiarelli who seemed to overpay and give out NTC's and NMC's like candy, especially to his guys on the 2011 team.
Patrice Bergeron is a first ballot hall of famer and Brandon Carlo is a below average NHL defenseman. There's no upside to signing someone like that to a 6 year deal at good money.Same thing could have been said about Patrice Bergeron all these years. Hard to really account for it one way or another.
Seems to me like they want to know what's going to be available for cap space after they get their core players locked up. Doing it before free agency begins will allow them to be in on guys from the start.I don't know if it means anything, but I find it somewhat interesting that they are getting the RFA work done early. They usually wait until after free agency to start on the pricier RFA's.
I just like him more as a 3rd pair guy than on the 2nd pair. I'd trade the defensive prowess for more offense. When he's out there it's like 4 on 5 in the offensive end which I think hurts the top 2 lines a bit.I don't think its fair to say Carlo is a below average defenseman at all. He's one of the top 10 D in the league at preventing opponents from chances and scoring. He is top 25 in the league in GF% the last 3 seasons and he's allowed the fewest xG of anyone above him on that list with the exception of Gryz who plays sheltered minutes. He erases offense. the problem is he sells out for D and generates almost nothing offensively. That's why you get to sign him for $4.1m. If he generated offense his contract would be double that.
This is exactly right, and given that one of their other two right shot Dman not named McAvoy just retired and the other might get snapped up by the Kraken, I think that this deal is awesome for the Bs.He's also only 24.
To think he's topped out in terms of expected performance is misguided. Defensemen take longer to develop. That he's already entering his 5th season at only 24 and he's consistently gotten better speaks well to where we can expect him to go, and that by the end of this contract he'll only be.....30.
Yeah, I would have expected the exact opposite having watched him for a while. He is pure chaos on the ice, but for whatever reason, neither team generates offense when he is playing. It's shocking, but pretty consistent over his 3 seasons.Connor Clifton? In terms of value I guess - in terms of play style, Clifton is chaotic neutral to put it lightly
edit: I might be crazily undervaluing Carlo after reading the reactions of others, but I can't get all that excited over this level of commitment to a player I find to be both limited in upside, and that happens to play in a league where players like Tom Wilson can knock them out for months on end with regularity and impunity.
That's a good question. I'd suspect free agents like Hjalmarsson and Adam Larsson would be cheaper than Carlo, although maybe I'm drastically misreading the FA market. Ryan Lindgren who they traded away a couple years ago is a somewhat comparable player who just signed for $3x3 though.Who's a slightly worse Brandon Carlo then?
Hjalmarsson and Lindgren are left-handed shots.That's a good question. I'd suspect free agents like Hjalmarsson and Adam Larsson would be cheaper than Carlo, although maybe I'm drastically misreading the FA market. Ryan Lindgren who they traded away a couple years ago is a somewhat comparable player who just signed for $3x3 though.
I don't really think that matters for this discussion. They already have one shutdown RHD in McAvoy. They need help on both sidesHjalmarsson and Lindgren are left-handed shots.
Larsson is an interesting comp. He's smaller than Carlo but plays a more nasty game. But on offense he's a black hole as well and is best suited with someone who can move the puck well. Carlo is probably in the same boat and would likely improve his game with say Gryz as his partner.Yeah, I would have expected the exact opposite having watched him for a while. He is pure chaos on the ice, but for whatever reason, neither team generates offense when he is playing. It's shocking, but pretty consistent over his 3 seasons.
That's a good question. I'd suspect free agents like Hjalmarsson and Adam Larsson would be cheaper than Carlo, although maybe I'm drastically misreading the FA market. Ryan Lindgren who they traded away a couple years ago is a somewhat comparable player who just signed for $3x3 though.
By the numbers, Hjarmarsson, Larsson and Lindgren are all SIGNIFICANTLY worse than Carlo on D. I expect Larsson to be around the same price for less term and while Hjalmarsson will likely be cheaper, hes also 34 and was terrible last year. Lindgren just signed a 3X9 deal but it didn't buy any of his UFA years. He will be 1 year from UFA when the cap goes up and will likely cash in for a number significantly higher. He's also a lesser player. A good comp is Esa Lindell. He puts up a bit more offense but has similar responsibilities to Carlo, he's just much much worse at it. He signed for 6 X $5.8 per year with NMC for all 4 years of UFA they bought.Yeah, I would have expected the exact opposite having watched him for a while. He is pure chaos on the ice, but for whatever reason, neither team generates offense when he is playing. It's shocking, but pretty consistent over his 3 seasons.
That's a good question. I'd suspect free agents like Hjalmarsson and Adam Larsson would be cheaper than Carlo, although maybe I'm drastically misreading the FA market. Ryan Lindgren who they traded away a couple years ago is a somewhat comparable player who just signed for $3x3 though.
They usually try to pair a mobile dude with Carlo. It doesn't really help. Tiny sample size (8 games; 124 minutes) but he sucked the life out of Mike Reilly. Reilly/Carlo had a 1.84 xGF/60 and a 48% xGF%. Reilly away from Carlo had 3.04 xGF/60 and a 64% xGF%.Larsson is an interesting comp. He's smaller than Carlo but plays a more nasty game. But on offense he's a black hole as well and is best suited with someone who can move the puck well. Carlo is probably in the same boat and would likely improve his game with say Gryz as his partner.
And at that AAV the cap should go up each year so that price should look better as the years go by provided good health.Once again, I don't have a real problem with the AAV, but 6 years for a health question mark seems dangerous unless we're hoping to LTIR our way to a CUP?
No, it couldn’t be.Same thing could have been said about Patrice Bergeron all these years. Hard to really account for it one way or another.