Bruins Trade Deadline 2016

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Dupes is a turd, but what exactly is the issue here? Is it that the AAV seems to be on the high end, or that he "suspects," or is it both?
 

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Nope, he's just a turd.

I'm surprised there aren't more rumors floating around. I can't find many.
New GM. Hasn't found a media member to trust who can leak stuff out.

The rumors are always fun but it seems like the majority of trades, at least in the Bruins case, come from out of left field.
 

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New GM. Hasn't found a media member to trust who can leak stuff out.

The rumors are always fun but it seems like the majority of trades, at least in the Bruins case, come from out of left field.
Well, when Chia was there, but we haven't had a Sweeney run trade deadline yet.

Sweeney has big shoes to fill in the trade department, Chia was pretty excellent at the trade deadline.
 

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What to do, what to do, if you're the Boston Bruins and pending unrestricted free-agent winger Loui Eriksson remains unsigned into Monday, as the clock ticks down to the 3 p.m. ET trade deadline?

As far as I can ascertain, Bruins GM Don Sweeney has prepared for all three options on the Eriksson front: get him signed to an extension; keep him past the deadline and hope it's worth it to make the playoffs and maybe win a round or two, and also use the extra months to get him signed; or trade him.

To me, the final option seems the most likely, even for a team that's sitting in a playoff spot.

The reason I feel that way is that Sweeney is in his first season at the helm of the Bruins. His mandate is to retool the team on the fly, which suggests the big-picture vision should trump any short-term goals.

Of course, it's all a moot point if Sweeney can get Eriksson signed in the next few days, but that would mean either convincing Eriksson to come down on term for a shorter deal, or the B's being willing to go longer term. Either way, the length of a potential contract is an issue.

From talking to other sources around the league, Boston is a very active team on the phones, not only to gauge the trade market on Eriksson, but also because they will be looking to add pieces too, particularly on defense.

Keep in mind, the Bruins already have two first-round picks this June, their own plus the San Jose Sharks' pick from the Martin Jones deal. So the Bruins don't necessarily need another high pick in a deal for Eriksson, but they could use a young player instead. Unless, of course, they turn around and use the high pick from an Eriksson trade to then deal for a defenseman.
http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/14837091/nhl-pierre-lebrun-rumblings-boston-bruins-face-dilemma-loui-eriksson
 

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Cam said today that the B's sent Loui Eriksson an offer "a few days ago" and that they hadn't heard back. DJ Bean then tweeted that the Bruins moved on term. According to Bean, the B's have moved to 4-years term. No idea on money.

Anywho, Andrew Ladd is a late scratch for the Jets tonight. Let the games begin. The Ladd deal should be a good comparison for Loui, and may drive Loui's price up on the trade market.
 

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If they just trade Eriksson, I agree they're not likely to make the playoffs. But if they replace him with a younger, somewhat lesser player who they could control for the future, I think they'd still have a pretty good chance. They'd probably have to take a net loss with all the picks/prospects involved, but I think it's their best option

There are rumors in Toronto about them trading Kadri, who is an RFA after this season. Calgary doesn't really have much motivation to trade him, but I think Mikael Backlund is the type of player+contract that would be worth overpaying for with picks and prospects. Great two way player, signed through 2017-18. Probably a :beatit: dream though
 

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Anywho, Andrew Ladd is a late scratch for the Jets tonight. Let the games begin. The Ladd deal should be a good comparison for Loui, and may drive Loui's price up on the trade market.
Ladd to Chicago for Dano, 1st rounder and a conditional 3rd round pick, per the Twitterverse. Would make LA and Anaheim the odds-on favorites for Loui, if traded.

Edited to add trade details.
 
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Yep. It's Chicago. Winnipeg gets Marko Dano, a 2016 1st round pick and a conditional 3rd round pick. Nice haul for Winnipeg. I would've moved Loui for that package.
 

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The Blues and Hawks will likely face each other in round one and the blues have to be pretty serious about this run given their cap situation. I see them making a similar offer. SchMaltz and their 1st?
 

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If there is more than one deal like that out there, sure.
I haven't crunched the numbers, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is a "domino" effect to rental buys. There are some clear competitive and psychological incentives that would seem to make it likely that in a tight environment one buy would raise the likelihood of a competitor doing the same. Probably hard to suss out much of a statistical analysis of it though given the small sample sizes.
 

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Cam said today that the B's sent Loui Eriksson an offer "a few days ago" and that they hadn't heard back. DJ Bean then tweeted that the Bruins moved on term. According to Bean, the B's have moved to 4-years term. No idea on money.
"To" 4 years? Were they offering less previously?
 

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Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 1m1 minute ago
Eriksson contract discussions expected to continue tomorrow which suggests the Bruins are unlikely to trade him before exhausting ext talks.
I think I've come around to the sign him to a reasonable extension and then trade some picks prospects for defensive help, with the obvious goal to get a younger mobile defensive defenseman in return. While I think asset management wise trading him seems to be the smart move, I also remember how I supported that logic on the Boychuk trade and I would take back that trade right now. I also think the East is wide open, and the Bruins wouldn't have to face Washington until the ECF. It

Now if they can't re-sign him, it's a harder decision for me, but if they can get some defensive help, then I think I'm in.
 

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I advocate taking every step possible to have him extended by Monday morning, but if at any point this weekend it looks like they can't bridge the gap, you have to cut bait. At minimum, you can target that top-4 cost-controlled defenseman in the offseason with whatever return you get for Loui, but taking too long stringing out an extension negotiation and giving him a taste of the market without getting assets in return is something this team just can't afford to do long-term. Like it or not, Sweeney's on the verge of a rebuild with Chara's best days long behind him and the rest of the defense unable to carry the load. You can't be locked in on 2016 when you have 2018 and beyond to worry about as well.
 

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Depends on the terms of the contract. I generally don't think it's a good idea signing players over the age of 30 and I personally would trade him if I got a good return.
 

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@TheFourthPeriod: Hearing Eriksson contract talks will carry out over weekend. Close source said talks likely go past deadline, thinks BOS keep him, but always possible they get good enough offer to trade him. If Bruins keep Eriksson and can't sign later, could move rights at Draft.
 

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@TheFourthPeriod: Hearing Eriksson contract talks will carry out over weekend. Close source said talks likely go past deadline, thinks BOS keep him, but always possible they get good enough offer to trade him. If Bruins keep Eriksson and can't sign later, could move rights at Draft.
Great, when he'll net a conditional 5th at best. Goddammit.

If they're committed to keeping him past Monday, they better re-sign him.
 

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Great, when he'll net a conditional 5th at best. Goddammit.

If they're committed to keeping him past Monday, they better re-sign him.
Everything you read this weekend is bullshit. They're leaking that they don't mind keeping him to gain leverage in trade talks with other teams. As soon as someone makes with the 1st round pick & the top prospect they want he's gone.
 

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Would it be outrageous to suggest Loui's game is one that will age well, a la Recchi?
No. He has outstanding hands, the best stick on the team & he's strong, so he's an excellent net-front player. His hockey IQ and vision are excellent. He's valuable on the PP and the PK. Barring injury, of course, his game will age well. The Bruins should offer him 5 years.

You can't replace a player with his varied set of elite skills. If they deal him, which looks probable, it'll take the Bruins a couple of years minimum to rebuild the thin corps of wingers. He's that important.

My preference in a trade would be to go big: Package a prospect or a high draft pick with Loui and get back NHL talent, not draft picks.
 

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No. He has outstanding hands, the best stick on the team & he's strong, so he's an excellent net-front player. His hockey IQ and vision are excellent. He's valuable on the PP and the PK. Barring injury, of course, his game will age well. The Bruins should offer him 5 years.

You can't replace a player with his varied set of elite skills. If they deal him, which looks probable, it'll take the Bruins a couple of years minimum to rebuild the thin corps of wingers. He's that important.

My preference in a trade would be to go big: Package a prospect or a high draft pick with Loui and get back NHL talent, not draft picks.
This post is spot on. I've been saying for a while now that Loui I believe Loui will be productive into his mid 30s. Barring another concussion or injury, this is the type of player you look to lock up through their 30s, just like Chara was.

Trading Loui for anything less than immediate help would be a huge mistake. They need to make a lateral move at minimum. I don't think a deal is out there for that.

I don't remember the same chorus when it was time to lock up Bergeron into his mid 30s. They're similar players. I really don't understand the desire to trade Loui because of his age.
 

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Problem is the cap is more likely to go down than up. If you give Loui 6m per year then how do you resign Marchand next year?
You can't pay everyone so at some point a tough decision has to be made.

Now if you could somehow find a way to move Seids then you could probably keep both.
 

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Problem is the cap is more likely to go down than up. If you give Loui 6m per year then how do you resign Marchand next year?
You can't pay everyone so at some point a tough decision has to be made.

Now if you could somehow find a way to move Seids then you could probably keep both.
Dom Tiano figured out a way. It's not pretty though.

 

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Everything you read this weekend is bullshit. They're leaking that they don't mind keeping him to gain leverage in trade talks with other teams. As soon as someone makes with the 1st round pick & the top prospect they want he's gone.
Yeah, I don't think keeping him past Monday without an extension is even an option. All that leverage immediately out the door.
 

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It's not so much the buy part I'm against it's the Kris Russell part. He sucks. Kevan Miller is better than him.
 

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I hope that they get a young player as the main piece in any trade. That could extend the Bergeron, Krecji, Rask window until the draft picks develop.

If they trade Eriksson for futures it will be hard for the team to be better next year and by the time the draft picks develop, the core will be old.

If they cant trade for a young player; maybe sign Eriksson and unload Seidenberg but if they can't, trade Krejci and hope Spooner develops into a true #2.
 

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Randell down to Providence on a conditioning loan. I'm not sure if sending him down on a conditioning loan opens up a free roster spot/cap space or not. The roster is maxed out right now at 23 if Randell is included. Talbot being waived and presumably sent to Providence tomorrow frees up a one spot. Not sure about Randell.
 

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Koko scratched in Providence tonight, hand injury according to Cassidy but he played all game yesterday and put up 5 assists so I'm guessing that's a smokescreen.