Celtics and Fighting Irish are great; don’t be silly.Neither. My point is that all racist names are bad and all should be eradicated.
Celtics and Fighting Irish are great; don’t be silly.Neither. My point is that all racist names are bad and all should be eradicated.
I think the Cleveland Boaters might work. Perhaps known as the Boat Crew. . .But hey, let's get in another round of people thinking mistake by the lake and burning river jokes are fresh and funny.
If we are going Bowie, Cleveland Strangers would be fun. They could call outs hit to the SS playing out of position in a shift, "Getting some strange."I vote for the Cleveland Hunters since the Rockies would object to the Cleveland Rocks. As an added bonus we could refer to their prospects as All the Young Dudes.
I think upon hearing Boaters every Tribe fan over the age of 40 would immediately be reminded of Steve Olin and Tim Crews.I think the Cleveland Boaters might work. Perhaps known as the Boat Crew. . .
If not, the Cleveland Belles.
So would The Düsseldorf Jews be ok, as long as the mascot didn’t have a big nose?I have to say that I agree with this. Since when is naming a team, or anything for that matter, after something else automatically racist? The chief needs to go, as do the tomahawks. But it doesn't make sense that a team would choose a name based on mocking a culture. If anything isn't it flattering as long as it's done respectfully?
I think the Dusseldorf Jews would clearly not be mistaken for an attempt to honor or strive to be jews, so not, it isn't at all the same. And I have no problem with Cleveland changing its name since the term "indian" is considered an insult to many. But Chiefs? Braves? No, that's not derogatory and not at all the same.So would The Düsseldorf Jews be ok, as long as the mascot didn’t have a big nose?
Baseball is the national sport of the nation that had a large part in nearly exterminating Native Americans, and then treated, and continues to treat, the survivors like shit.
As stated upthread, I favor this name. And now you've given me a thought of having CC Sabathia throwing out the first pitch at Opening Day where all attendees would be given replica 2007 AL Central Champs rings.The Cuyahogas of Cleveland has a nice ring. The CC alliteration could lead to a cool graphic design. It could also end up looking like a minor league affiliate.
The problem is that many of the Native Americans, at least in the western US prefer “Indian“ as a descriptor rather than “Native American.” This is an old editorial from the Native TimesSo would The Düsseldorf Jews be ok, as long as the mascot didn’t have a big nose?
Baseball is the national sport of the nation that had a large part in nearly exterminating Native Americans, and then treated, and continues to treat, the survivors like shit.
During the activist days of the 1960s and 70s the U. S. Government responded to the activists’ protests by proposing the term "Native American." And so the anti-government activists decided to accept the name Native American, a name suggested by the United States Government, a government that they despised. Say what?
The other arguable explanation was Columbus’s use of the term "una gest in Dios" or "a people in God" which was reduced to "Indios" for every day usage by the Spaniards and later was further changed to "Indian" as the word moved north. And what’s more we hear that in 1492 Columbus could not have thought he had reached the Indies because at that time there was no Indies, but they instead were called Hindustan.
That sad part of this entire fiasco is that so many of the so-called "elitist Indians" have allowed themselves to be bullied into using the name "Native Americans" and even "Native" by a white media that seems to have set the agenda for what we should be called.
One elderly Lakota man from the Standing Rock Sioux Reservation said recently, "If some Indians want to be called Native Americans or Natives, let them be called that, but I was born an Indian and I shall die an Indian.
So if you travel to any Indian reservation out west you will soon discover that nearly all of the indigenous people refer to themselves as "Indian," especially the elders who are still fluent in their Indian language. As Chief Oliver Red Cloud said a few years before he died, "I am Lakota and I am Indian."
You don’t say?I think upon hearing Boaters every Tribe fan over the age of 40 would immediately be reminded of Steve Olin and Tim Crews.
So you want more soccer names like Red Bulls?I'm surprised no team has come up with selling the rights to the team nickname yet, since they sell everything else. It could be... the Cleveland Pokemon! Or the Cleveland Applebee's!
The Packers were named for their sponsor, the Indian Packing Company but I don’t believed they ever owned even part of the team. The Pistons original owner also owned a foundry that cast pistons for the auto industry so he named the team after him and the product that made his fortune.So you want more soccer names like Red Bulls?
weren’t the Packers and Pistons named for companies?
Sorry, your crass and deplorable attempt at humor went over my head. I'll adjust my expectations and ignore list accordingly.You don’t say?
If you want to meet and discuss it, I can be often be found during the early evening hours at the Jose Fernandez memorial jetty.Sorry, your crass and deplorable attempt at humor went over my head. I'll adjust my expectations and ignore list accordingly.
I didn't say I wanted it. I'm just surprised it hasn't happened yet. The owners of these teams like to milk every dollar they can out of the process.So you want more soccer names like Red Bulls?
weren’t the Packers and Pistons named for companies?
I wonder if Wrigley Field sold any gum? Or Rich Field?I didn't say I wanted it. I'm just surprised it hasn't happened yet. The owners of these teams like to milk every dollar they can out of the process.
One example that nearly came to pass: the NBA disallowed the Vancouver Grizzlies becoming the Memphis Express as part of the FedEx Forum naming rights.I'm surprised no team has come up with selling the rights to the team nickname yet, since they sell everything else. It could be... the Cleveland Pokemon! Or the Cleveland Applebee's!
https://www.cbc.ca/sports/basketball/nba-rejects-memphis-express-moniker-1.278813The NBA will not allow teams to be named for corporations, meaning the Vancouver Grizzlies will not become the Memphis Express if the league approves the move.
FedEx Corp. is ready to buy naming rights to a new arena if the NBA grants permission for the Grizzlies to relocate to Memphis. The company hoped to include a corporate nickname in the approximately $100-million deal.
But Joel Litvin, the NBA's executive vice-president of legal and business affairs, said Monday the league forbids a corporate nickname.
So is the pitcher not included? Or the DH?I've always thought that "Nine" would be a great name for a baseball team.
If they go this way, they are welcome to license the logo I got my wife to design for them a few years back:They have only one choice that makes sense: The Cleveland Ham Fighters.
I was like 35 years old before I realized the team nickname wasn't actually Ham Fighters.They have only one choice that makes sense: The Cleveland Ham Fighters.
First of all, I did not know this so thank you for telling me. 2nd of all, that is a far superior name. Cmon NBA!One example that nearly came to pass: the NBA disallowed the Vancouver Grizzlies becoming the Memphis Express as part of the FedEx Forum naming rights.
https://www.cbc.ca/sports/basketball/nba-rejects-memphis-express-moniker-1.278813
I was late 20's or maybe even early 30's when I figured it out. And it blew my mind.I was like 35 years old before I realized the team nickname wasn't actually Ham Fighters.
But of course, as long as it is done respectfully....as in below.I have to say that I agree with this. Since when is naming a team, or anything for that matter, after something else automatically racist? The chief needs to go, as do the tomahawks. But it doesn't make sense that a team would choose a name based on mocking a culture. If anything isn't it flattering as long as it's done respectfully?
Which brings up the obvious question:How about the Cleveland Indianans in honor of their next-door neighbor to the west?
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The Cleveland Indians have become the Cleveland Guardians.
They have giant art deco statues on the outskirts of the city that are named the Guardians.Is there a connection between the name Guardians and the city of Cleveland? I'm pretty neutral on the logo, but not loving the name unless there's something I'm missing.
It's named after some statues on a bridge.Is there a connection between the name Guardians and the city of Cleveland? I'm pretty neutral on the logo, but not loving the name unless there's something I'm missing.
Why?Of the obvious candidates, Guardians was my preference. I wouldn't have minded Commodores either. I'm relieved they avoided Spiders and I absolutely hated any rock & roll reference. Guardians should age well since it can adapt to either a fun or stoic look. The winged G might be okay if they drop the generic baseball from that logo. The script Guardians will probably grow on me, and I already love the Cleveland branding… finally a "Block C" with some character.
There's no way Colorado would have been okay with that.Cleveland Rocks would have been great.