It's excellent. The 4k Fire TV stick is remarkable, in every way. And the remote on the Fire TV is way better than the Roku.I guess, alternatively, for ppl with Amazon Fire TV, what has your experience been with various network/streaming apps?
It's excellent. The 4k Fire TV stick is remarkable, in every way. And the remote on the Fire TV is way better than the Roku.I guess, alternatively, for ppl with Amazon Fire TV, what has your experience been with various network/streaming apps?
Netflix & Amazon works great. No issues. Showtime Anytime works but it's a crappy interface. I'm in the process of trying out Youtube TV this week and it seems to work pretty well. MLB TV also works great. I've also done Reddit MLB/NFL streams without issues. Does this help?I guess, alternatively, for ppl with Amazon Fire TV, what has your experience been with various network/streaming apps?
I never understood why people put down FireTV in favor of the Roku. I guess they don't like some of the "advertising" that you see but it doesn't bother me. I agree that the user interface/remote is superior. You can also use the FireTV app on your phone to control it.It's excellent. The 4k Fire TV stick is remarkable, in every way. And the remote on the Fire TV is way better than the Roku.
I did not get an email from YTTV so am I not affected? I'm in the Boston area so we don't get YES or Fox Sports Midwest.Youtube TV just sent an e-mail out to their subscribers saying they have been unable to reach an agreement with Sinclair regarding YES Network and the Fox Sports RSNs. They're dropping those channels at the end of the month.
I didn’t get an email either. In Vermont I get NESN and NBC Sports Boston. I also get Fox Sports and FS2. Maybe those are unaffected?I did not get an email from YTTV so am I not affected? I'm in the Boston area so we don't get YES or Fox Sports Midwest.
You are correct. FS1 and 2 are still owned by FOX and weren't part of the Sinclair deal. I would guess Sinclair isn't in a hurry to rebrand the regional sports nets they did acquire.I didn’t get an email either. In Vermont I get NESN and NBC Sports Boston. I also get Fox Sports and FS2. Maybe those are unaffected?
Yeah as mentioned it's not an issue up here in the Boston area but that seems like a major issue for YTTV in some other markets. Wonder if they drop the price, or how they move on from here.It’s hard for YTTV to justify the $49.99 when you take away a market’s local sports teams. I’m in St Louis so removing Cardinals and Blues games will likely cause 100% cancellation. Having the viewers as pawns in these negotiations is just so petty and ridiculous.
These pick your poison scenarios are awful. Hulu TV has NFL Network but no MLB.Yeah as mentioned it's not an issue up here in the Boston area but that seems like a major issue for YTTV in some other markets. Wonder if they drop the price, or how they move on from here.
Also, wonder if they will ever get NFL Network. I haven't had NFL Network since I moved in spring 2018 and switched to YTTV, but I do miss it.
well efficient marketing is supposed to be about reducing the friction required for consumption. This balkanization of media is producing the exact opposite: figuring out how to get the channels you want, how to subscribe/pay for each, multiple inconsistent interfaces and guides and hardware needed to connect. Someone, somehow is going to figure out how to aggregate these again so it's not a complex online game just to see wtf you want.And thus everyone goes back to cable.
I'll be curious to see if those studies that showed Netflix cutting piracy dramatically indicate a the opposite as its model of low price and one-stop-shopping is reversed.well efficient marketing is supposed to be about reducing the friction required for consumption. This balkanization of media is producing the exact opposite: figuring out how to get the channels you want, how to subscribe/pay for each, multiple inconsistent interfaces and guides and hardware needed to connect. Someone, somehow is going to figure out how to aggregate these again so it's not a complex online game just to see wtf you want.
Everyone is now increasing the balkanization to the point that nobody is 'broadcasting'. Traditional premium cable can't obtain many of the major hit movies as Disney, Marvel etc keep them for their own channels, Netflix is suddenly starved of huge swaths of it's prior content, now and then a channel can drive interest with a GoT, but it's a gamble that risks a huge investment and a total crap shoot. Nobody wants to have to bet on which channel will have the most hits next year. Most are not interested in having to reshuffle their subscriptions every 6 months. More and more of those who are young and savvy enough to do that are going to say 'fuck this', turn to their VPN and just pirate the 2-3 movies from a channel they otherwise don't care about. The problem is, even if you want to reaggregate, nobody wants to cooperate (see the endless Sinclair type disputes). Say someone like Roku wants to be able to offer you a connect to each channel (cable, stream, etc) and handle the billing etc...can they really aggregate a single guide or just assume everyone now consumes in bulk and doesn't care wtf is 'on' ? That don't work for sports, news etc. Someone has to be able to offer convenience. What we have now is encouraging increasing churn and piracy and the impending slow death of the satellite option will make it all worse.I'll be curious to see if those studies that showed Netflix cutting piracy dramatically indicate a the opposite as its model of low price and one-stop-shopping is reversed.
I believe this is what you may want. It is a couple of months old and doesn't show the Sinclair Fox sports stations.well efficient marketing is supposed to be about reducing the friction required for consumption. This balkanization of media is producing the exact opposite: figuring out how to get the channels you want, how to subscribe/pay for each, multiple inconsistent interfaces and guides and hardware needed to connect. Someone, somehow is going to figure out how to aggregate these again so it's not a complex online game just to see wtf you want.
Companies are losing billions of dollars because of piracy plus however much more because of password sharing and they are going after them hard. Obviously there probably will always be piracy but the risk of the channels you are paying for might suddenly disappear is much greater.Everyone is now increasing the balkanization to the point that nobody is 'broadcasting'. Traditional premium cable can't obtain many of the major hit movies as Disney, Marvel etc keep them for their own channels, Netflix is suddenly starved of huge swaths of it's prior content, now and then a channel can drive interest with a GoT, but it's a gamble that risks a huge investment and a total crap shoot. Nobody wants to have to bet on which channel will have the most hits next year. Most are not interested in having to reshuffle their subscriptions every 6 months. More and more of those who are young and savvy enough to do that are going to say 'fuck this', turn to their VPN and just pirate the 2-3 movies from a channel they otherwise don't care about. The problem is, even if you want to reaggregate, nobody wants to cooperate (see the endless Sinclair type disputes). Say someone like Roku wants to be able to offer you a connect to each channel (cable, stream, etc) and handle the billing etc...can they really aggregate a single guide or just assume everyone now consumes in bulk and doesn't care wtf is 'on' ? That don't work for sports, news etc. Someone has to be able to offer convenience. What he have now is encouraging increasing churn and piracy and the impending slow death of the satellite option will make it all worse.
The young and savvy demographic is going to win and I've already joined them. The need to play the quarterly earnings circus has the legacy and soon to be dead (not generating enough revenue to pay for programing like sports) distribution model focusing on getting the older cord cutters experimenters to return to their comfort zone. They better have a really solid plan-B. A significant number of the older cord cutters, like me, have successfully adapted and that helps the push forward.Everyone is now increasing the balkanization to the point that nobody is 'broadcasting'. Traditional premium cable can't obtain many of the major hit movies as Disney, Marvel etc keep them for their own channels, Netflix is suddenly starved of huge swaths of it's prior content, now and then a channel can drive interest with a GoT, but it's a gamble that risks a huge investment and a total crap shoot. Nobody wants to have to bet on which channel will have the most hits next year. Most are not interested in having to reshuffle their subscriptions every 6 months. More and more of those who are young and savvy enough to do that are going to say 'fuck this', turn to their VPN and just pirate the 2-3 movies from a channel they otherwise don't care about. The problem is, even if you want to reaggregate, nobody wants to cooperate (see the endless Sinclair type disputes). Say someone like Roku wants to be able to offer you a connect to each channel (cable, stream, etc) and handle the billing etc...can they really aggregate a single guide or just assume everyone now consumes in bulk and doesn't care wtf is 'on' ? That don't work for sports, news etc. Someone has to be able to offer convenience. What he have now is encouraging increasing churn and piracy and the impending slow death of the satellite option will make it all worse.
They might if you threaten to switch to the other provider. You need to get them to transfer you to the retention department when you call in to try to get that deal.It drives me crazy that Altice One is offered for $64.99/month for 12 months, but Optimum won't honor that price because I"m an existing customer.
As we established yesterday, I'm pretty much right down the Pike from you, and I'm loving YoutubeTV since I switched several months ago. I had to keep spectrum for the internet service, but I'm saving a small fortune, and have had no issues at all when live streaming. I did the three week free trial before I took the leap and was hooked, and I'll never look back.I’m delving into YTTV, watching on a Visio smart TV that I float between a bedroom and my patio. It’s not hooked up to cable, and I watch using the built in YTTV app. Kind of a trial run to see if I want to ultimately cut the cord. One major issue: on YTTV live, some channels stream fine, some are riddled with freezes that fill me with a homicidal rage. And naturally, two of those are NESN and NBC sports Boston. Those are an absolute deal breaker. I have Xfinity internet, and the TV is currently located pretty close to my router. My questions are:
Is this likely an internet issue with my WiFi network?
Is the built in App an issue? And would going to a fire stick be a better option/resolve the issue? At minimum I want have this TV fully functional for Sox/bruins/Celtics watching on my patio, when/if sports returns this summer. Long term, I would like to transition away from Comcast and their exorbitant bills. But if this bullshit is what I’m in for, no thanks. I’ll hang up and listen.
Ps. The TV has lots of other built in apps(Netflix, amazon, regular YT, etc.) all seem to stream with no issues.
I would invest in a Fire Stick or other streaming device. They will likely have a more stable/secure YTTV app. However, I would like to know about your router. How new is it? Is it a mesh router? I ask because my house had a few dead/weak spots for WiFi, and certain times during the day the neighbors devices on their WiFi would cause interference. I live in a row house down here in Baltimore, MD. I bought an Eero router located in my entertainment center on the ground floor, and one extra beacon to plug into an outlet upstairs near my bedroom. It’s simply the best WiFi experience I’ve had in my 20+ years of working with them.I’m delving into YTTV, watching on a Visio smart TV that I float between a bedroom and my patio. It’s not hooked up to cable, and I watch using the built in YTTV app. Kind of a trial run to see if I want to ultimately cut the cord. One major issue: on YTTV live, some channels stream fine, some are riddled with freezes that fill me with a homicidal rage. And naturally, two of those are NESN and NBC sports Boston. Those are an absolute deal breaker. I have Xfinity internet, and the TV is currently located pretty close to my router. My questions are:
Is this likely an internet issue with my WiFi network?
Is the built in App an issue? And would going to a fire stick be a better option/resolve the issue? At minimum I want have this TV fully functional for Sox/bruins/Celtics watching on my patio, when/if sports returns this summer. Long term, I would like to transition away from Comcast and their exorbitant bills. But if this bullshit is what I’m in for, no thanks. I’ll hang up and listen.
Ps. The TV has lots of other built in apps(Netflix, amazon, regular YT, etc.) all seem to stream with no issues.
My plan was to do exactly what you did. Pare my Comcast service down to internet only, and go completely with streaming/YTTV for everything else. I’ve run health checks for my WiFi on the xfininty app, and keep getting told everything is fine, though I’m not sure how thorough or accurate that is. The disappointing thing is that the gas and electric company in Westfield has been offering their own fiber optic/high speed internet for more than a year now. People I know who have it rave about the strength and speed. But unfortunately, it is not available yet in my area, due to underground utilities , I believe. I’m definitely going to keep chasing this. I’m so ready to stop handing Comcast nearly 300.00 a month.As we established yesterday, I'm pretty much right down the Pike from you, and I'm loving YoutubeTV since I switched several months ago. I had to keep spectrum for the internet service, but I'm saving a small fortune, and have had no issues at all when live streaming. I did the three week free trial before I took the leap and was hooked, and I'll never look back.
In short, my guess is that there's a technical glitch somewhere or your signal isn't very strong. Can you do a speed test? IIRC live streaming eats up a hell of a lot more bandwidth than recorded programming, but I could certainly be wrong about that.
The thing I love the most is being able to bring my entire lineup with me wherever I go. It was great for the B's and C's, and I was looking forward to having the Sox in my pocket this season. I hope you can figure out your issue, because the YTTV product is fucking awesome when it's running properly. I also tried Sling and Fubo, and found YTTV to be far superior.
I’m afraid my technical knowledge of routers is at the remedial level. This is a Comcast/Xfinity router, that claims to have 1G capacity. Other than a couple of brief outages, I’ve had no issues with it for anything else. I live in a pretty typical, older suburban development, with a little bit of space between houses, so not sure if there’s interference from any of my neighbors devices/networks. I’m definitely going to invest in a fire stick. Seems well worth the cost to keep trying this, and if it does work, I’ll need a couple of them anyway to ultimately cut the cord entirely.I would invest in a Fire Stick or other streaming device. They will likely have a more stable/secure YTTV app. However, I would like to know about your router. How new is it? Is it a mesh router? I ask because my house had a few dead/weak spots for WiFi, and certain times during the day the neighbors devices on their WiFi would cause interference. I live in a row house down here in Baltimore, MD. I bought an Eero router located in my entertainment center on the ground floor, and one extra beacon to plug into an outlet upstairs near my bedroom. It’s simply the best WiFi experience I’ve had in my 20+ years of working with them.
Yeah, your first step would be to look for a better version of the app. A device that sells streaming options is more motivated to have a better platform for apps to be developed (and maintained) than a smart TV and its operating system. Hopefully that solves things.I’m afraid my technical knowledge of routers is at the remedial level. This is a Comcast/Xfinity router, that claims to have 1G capacity. Other than a couple of brief outages, I’ve had no issues with it for anything else. I live in a pretty typical, older suburban development, with a little bit of space between houses, so not sure if there’s interference from any of my neighbors devices/networks. I’m definitely going to invest in a fire stick. Seems well worth the cost to keep trying this, and if it does work, I’ll need a couple of them anyway to ultimately cut the cord entirely.
I have a couple of smart TVs but I ended up purchasing a Roku for each despite them being able to host YTTV directly. I do find that performance has been better since getting the Rokus. YMMV.Yeah, your first step would be to look for a better version of the app. A device that sells streaming options is more motivated to have a better platform for apps to be developed (and maintained) than a smart TV and its operating system. Hopefully that solves things.
Yeah. To be honest, I only give my TV access to the internet through my router in order to periodically check for firmware updates. I leave all internet streaming access to the devices I have identified to handle it.I have a couple of smart TVs but I ended up purchasing a Roku for each despite them being able to host YTTV directly. I do find that performance has been better since getting the Rokus. YMMV.
Hulu+live is $55+taxHulu; the Bravo app itself?
OK how about the Bravo app? Can you get by on free trials of Hulu, maybe string together a few different email addresses? As a side note, wow, I didn't realize that show was still on; yikes.Hulu+live is $55+tax
How soon after airing is it on regular Hulu?
Should be do-able. They just need to login with their accounts at your home location. I share my account with two other people and login their IDs on my computer every 2-3 months. No issues thus far.The question is can my kids use a Roku and our YTTV account through the Google Family option at our house roughly 1.5 hours South of here but still in the "Boston Area" market? Is there something that will prohibit them from doing that since they're not in the same zip code? Both houses are in NH if that matters. I'd love to drop Xfinity cable if I can and have been thinking of doing it for a while.
yttv or regular yt? Or if you have yttv there isnt a difference anymore?I have YTTV, it's very good. especially the DVR. I don't have a smart home but If I did I'd just go with Amazon products. It seems easiest.The Patriots SBs are on youtube. I just asked Alexa for the Falcons game, and it came up. Just that easy. Or maybe try this.
https://www.techwalla.com/articles/how-do-i-transfer-files-from-my-comcast-dvr
Their is a difference. YTTV is basically cable tv. It doesn't have the NFL network. So I watched the Pats on the youtube app. You'll be fine. In fact you'll be sorry you didn't do it earlier. About Comcast internet since will stream everything, or almost everything.Yhis will help you decide if your internet speed is enough for your needs.yttv or regular yt? Or if you have yttv there isnt a difference anymore?
running regular YT thru my samsung smart tv seems clunky but im probably doing it wrong.
Very cool. Thank youTheir is a difference. YTTV is basically cable tv. It doesn't have the NFL network. So I watched the Pats on the youtube app. You'll be fine. In fact you'll be sorry you didn't do it earlier. About Comcast internet since will stream everything, or almost everything.Yhis will help you decide if your internet speed is enough for your needs.
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/internet-speed-what-you-need,news-24289.html
That's a $15 jump per month in one swoop. I'm not quite hellbent on dumping YTTV just yet, but I'm certainly looking around at other options.Today, YouTube TV is adding eight ViacomCBS channels to its lineup. The new channels include: BET, CMT, Comedy Central, MTV, Nickelodeon, Paramount, TV Land, and VH1.
YouTube announced in May that a group of ViacomCBS channels would be added this summer, in two phases. In total, there will be 14 new channels added to the lineup.
With the addition of the new channels, YouTube TV will be raising its monthly cost to $64.99 beginning July 30, 2020.