Massarotti used to be a decent beat writer; his bread and butter was the Red Sox. These days, he acts as an equally noisy yes-man for Felger, which can turn the show into two people yelling at each other about how much they agree on a subject
That first line makes the whole article.This made me laugh.
Kirk is the rat a ratfucker fucks. He is on the lowest rung of the ladder that is Boston sports radio, which is quite an accomplishment. He replaced John Dennis as Gerry Callahan’s partner for Kirk and Callahan on WEEI, which is like replacing the rat a ratfucker fucks with a dead rat.
No I assure you Mazz has always been trash. Always. he's just more trashier than before.Massarotti used to be a decent beat writer
Would you go on C&M? They wouldn't let you speak, they'd yell at you for 20 minutes and with his name, they'd probably insinuate that he's from ISIS.Weak sauce; if you're going to write it, you have to post to defend it. And it is no excuse that these radio guys are pros. Twitter testicles.
That's got a nice Flannery O'Conner kinda vibe.I haven't listened to any of these assholes in more than a decade and there are some of them I've never even heard of, but holy shit that was funny.
I thought this line:
Was Derek Lowe in the 2004 ALCS. Woulda been the guy but for all the other guys who were the guy more.
Indeed - that's classic bullshit. Quick, everyone lay your credentials on the table.Coop, how long does one have to write before one can discuss the media?
It's almost like they posted bad pictures on purpose...this article gives Brighton a bad name...there are respectable people who live here
edit: could they find any worse pictures of these people?
I'm gonna go ahead and disagree with you there, dc.Weak sauce; if you're going to write it, you have to post to defend it. And it is no excuse that these radio guys are pros. Twitter testicles.
But -- it is awesome. Truly. And yes, the longer Felger goes, the weaker he gets.
Sad -- correctly acknowledging that Mazz was a decent beat writer.
Ah yes, media criticism from the great Samer Kalif, with his 3ish years of experience writing for Deadspin and a degree from the prestigious University of New Hampshire school of whatever. Hard pass.
1,776 posts as a LurkerIndeed - that's classic bullshit. Quick, everyone lay your credentials on the table.
How many years has Coop done before we take his message board quote seriously?
yeah, forgot Holley, Dale and Keefe - you know, the other existing drive time showI'm gonna go ahead and disagree with you there, dc.
There is no reason anyone, anywhere should agree to appear on the Kirk & Callahan show; their entire schtick is to yell over the guest, not allow any of their "gotcha!" questions to be answered, and to provoke the guest to either hang up or give up, allowing them to proclaim victory and do a touchdown dance. It is ambush radio and every guest is booked to be lit on fire. And since their M.O. is to literally keep the guest from speaking more than a sentence at a time, or to shout loaded, bullshit "YES OR NO!" questions that invariably make the guest look stupid, there is no benefit at all to the guest.
I dunno the author of this piece and have no knowledge of his/her testicles or lack thereof, but not agreeing to have his/her testicles stomped, kicked, and pulled by these "pros" is not reason enough to criticize the author, IMO.
If Ordway wanted this author on, and the author ducked Turtleneck Glenn? Then by all means, question the testicles and the author's motivations/etc.
But no one can be blamed or criticized for avoiding the K&C experience.
Also: how does this article get written without mentioning Michael "Co-Host Killer" Holley? It's not a good article, for lots of reasons, and missing the 2nd longest tenured host in Boston sports talk radio is a pretty huge omission/error.
Wait, you didn't hear about the Ivy League-only bash?Hey now!
Sometimes I skip the articles on Deadspin to just get to the comments. Best in the biz."Gerry KuKluxKallahan" from a reader comment made me laugh.
Thread title is a little deceptive.I'm gonna go ahead and disagree with you there, dc.
There is no reason anyone, anywhere should agree to appear on the Kirk & Callahan show; their entire schtick is to yell over the guest, not allow any of their "gotcha!" questions to be answered, and to provoke the guest to either hang up or give up, allowing them to proclaim victory and do a touchdown dance. It is ambush radio and every guest is booked to be lit on fire. And since their M.O. is to literally keep the guest from speaking more than a sentence at a time, or to shout loaded, bullshit "YES OR NO!" questions that invariably make the guest look stupid, there is no benefit at all to the guest.
I dunno the author of this piece and have no knowledge of his/her testicles or lack thereof, but not agreeing to have his/her testicles stomped, kicked, and pulled by these "pros" is not reason enough to criticize the author, IMO.
If Ordway wanted this author on, and the author ducked Turtleneck Glenn? Then by all means, question the testicles and the author's motivations/etc.
But no one can be blamed or criticized for avoiding the K&C experience.
Also: how does this article get written without mentioning Michael "Co-Host Killer" Holley? It's not a good article, for lots of reasons, and missing the 2nd longest tenured host in Boston sports talk radio is a pretty huge omission/error.
What about Arcand?He didn't mention Dale and Holley because the article is the Guide to Boston Sports Radio Chowderheads, and Dale and Michael don't qualify as they're not rampant assholes and might actually be decent people, which sets them apart from the rest of that group.
Then what the fuck was Beetle doing in there? I mean, other than for the fat joke/picture. He is not a rampant asshole and is actually a decent person.He didn't mention Dale and Holley because the article is the Guide to Boston Sports Radio Chowderheads, and Dale and Michael don't qualify as they're not rampant assholes and might actually be decent people, which sets them apart from the rest of that group.
Huh? Beetle is an asshole on air and on Twitter. In fact, it amazes me the arrogance with that guy sometimes. Don't know him personally to comment on if "decent person" is fair. Do you know him?Then what the fuck was Beetle doing in there? I mean, other than for the fat joke/picture. He is not a rampant asshole and is actually a decent person.
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Really? Beetle seems like a normal person. I don't find him an asshole at all. I don't know him but in the realm of Boston Sports Media he's at the low end of the a-hole scale.Huh? Beetle is an asshole on air and on Twitter. In fact, it amazes me the arrogance with that guy sometimes. Don't know him personally to comment on if "decent person" is fair. Do you know him?
I know him a little bit and know people who know him pretty well- he's good people.Huh? Beetle is an asshole on air and on Twitter. In fact, it amazes me the arrogance with that guy sometimes. Don't know him personally to comment on if "decent person" is fair. Do you know him?
This I agree with. I thought the rise of streaming audio would be a Godsend for people like myself who moved out of the Boston market. Was very excited at the prospect of being able to immerse myself in Boston sports radio as if I still lived there. Outside of listening to T&R in the morning it's turned out to be an absolute wasteland. I often have a 1 hour driving commute home in the evening and Felger & Mazz and Adam Jones are so intolerably awful that I've become a rabid non-sports podcast listener.The a-hole scale in Boston sports radio begins in the exosphere. That's the principal point of the article. So although I agree it's slap-dash, I have no problem with the Dale and Holley omissions, for example, because they do not belong in that bad company.
There is an enormous disconnect between the quality of Boston as a sports city -- first rate -- and the people there on the radio -- bottom of the barrel. I've lived in several major metropolitan areas, Washington for a long time. D.C., at best, is a mediocre sports city (note, I say "sports" not "football"). But with the exception of a few Boston pairings, the guys up there would not last here more than a month. And that's taking the transparent race baiting out of the equation, which obviously would not go over for more than a show. What you get on "EEI in the early morning, and on the other station in the afternoon, is juvenile, uninteresting, uninspired and, at its very best, mediocre. That sucks when you're talking about one of the nation's very best sports cities and cultural centers. It's embarrassing. But that's the way it is.
I think Beetle comes off as a combo of stupid and arrogant that is pretty repellent. There seems to be little thought, complexity, or originality in the opinions he tosses off on air. But real life and public persona aren't always the same thing.I know him a little bit and know people who know him pretty well- he's good people.
Sports radio (unfortunately) seems to require drama/conflict/entertainment beyond what the sports themselves provide- if you want to get ahead, you need to get the clicks. Sit down with Mark and his sports knowledge/passion is deep...he's fighting for a job in a tough field with limited options, and playing with confidence/arrogance is what's required.