Game 1: Panthers @ Bruins

Jed Zeppelin

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They got better and better as the game went. Thought they really found their sea legs in the 3rd and basically squashed it.
 

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I would 100% support a rotation of bad game=game off.

Edit, assuming Bergeron back next game: Frederic stays in, Foglino sits.
 

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Boston was off, but still felt like Panthers had one good scoring chance and it was off a fluke. Weird game.
 

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They got better and better as the game went. Thought they really found their sea legs in the 3rd and basically squashed it.
Guy from work - a Preds fan who hasn’t seen a ton of B’s games this year - texted me that their defense and goaltending makes it basically feel hopeless for the opponent when they lock in.
 

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I don't seem to recall the Panthers having any clean looks in front of Ullmark aside from Orlov's mishap that ended up right on Tkachuk's stick. It was a bend-but-don't-break defense and Ullmark made all the saves they needed him to. As long as the Bruins make smart plays and don't turn the puck over exiting the zone they'll be fine.

Depth was the other factor tonight. I feel all four lines and all three pairings contributed in their own ways tonight with no passengers.
 

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As intriguing as the 59-46-88 line is offensively, they struggled to get out of their own zone all night. I’m not sure I love having them together at even strength, but Pasta and Bertuzzi definitely have something special in the other team’s zone so I’m torn.
 

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Guy from work - a Preds fan who hasn’t seen a ton of B’s games this year - texted me that their defense and goaltending makes it basically feel hopeless for the opponent when they lock in.
They also don’t play scared with a lead which goes a long way.
 

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Not entirely joking. Maybe not Bergy but I’d keep rotating guys through the playoffs. Shit beats dudes up and if you have depth, keep it fresh and rest your guys who are hurting.
I do not disagree.
 

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Don’t think Hall was hurt? Didn’t notice anything, he looked very good all night.

Thought Pasta was really ineffective and cherry picking during the 5 on 5. Looked like he missed his buddy. Marchand and the 3rd/4th lines were quite good, as were all defense pairings.
 
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Don’t think Hall was hurt? Didn’t notice anything, he looked very good all night.
There was a play mid to late in the third where he got in deep with a lot of speed and was ridden off the play by their D. It looked awkward and could have been really bad if he wiped out.
 

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It looks like Halls last shift ends with 9 minutes left and I don't see anything. It's 71 13 11 up front at faceoff, they make a routine line change when the puck goes out of play.


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There they are after the shift and Monty is talking to them.
 
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I've seen enough of Foligno and Forbort for a little while.

Forbort is not really important for the penalty kill with Orlov on the team and as such he just steals shifts from Grizzy's offensive value 5v5.

Foligno? IDK, I'd rather see Greer and definitely rather see Lauko. What are we doing here? Monty doesn't even seem to want him on the ice (8:39). As a result, one of the Bruins' superpowers of just rolling four lines until the other team finally craters was not quite the same tonight.

And the proof seemed to be in the pudding where there were all of these crazy, first time groupings tonight to sort of avoid (it seemed) really rolling the four lines where Uncle Nick would have to be out there for real minutes.

Free Gryzelcyk!

(Florida is fucked once Bergeron starts winning the face-offs, btw).
 

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There was a play mid to late in the third where he got in deep with a lot of speed and was ridden off the play by their D. It looked awkward and could have been really bad if he wiped out.
Yep. I remember that and am concerned.

As an aside, I'm watching the other playoff games, and am beginning to realize that the Bs have been facing opponents playing with "playoff intensity" trying to prove they could beat us for 3 months. None of them have. We are very clearly the class of the league. That doesn't mean we're unbeatable. But this team is likely the best Bruins team we'll ever see.
 

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I've seen enough of Foligno and Forbort for a little while.
Right there with you. Forbort had more than his fair share of possession-killing turnovers, and the late season stretch run showed this team can kill penalties without him. Foligno was just unremarkable overall. I could see Grz's ability to move the puck and Lauko's skating ability doing wonders on punishing the Panthers' over-aggressiveness.
 

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Isn't Occam's razor that if Monty started skipping people in the last ten minutes of a game where the team had the lead and players are sick, that maybe Monty knows more than us? At least until we hear something else?
This is where I'm at. No reason to panic given the circumstances.
 

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Good win tonight under all the circumstances. Really slogged through the first 40 but keep the chances to a minimum. Just looked slow overall, which isn't surprising with three guys coming off the shelf and the shits running through the room. Would really like to see 94 for 17 and 48 for 28, though I doubt it's going to happen.
 

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Attended w my 11 yo hockey mad son. It seemed like every time I pointed out a play to him it was one of the new guys or coyle. The trade deadline acquisitions were terrific.
 

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Definitely matchups. Hall doesn't play SH so with the penalty and FL pulling the goalie with 3 to go, that's 5 of the last ~9 minutes. With Freddie and Fliggy not seeing the ice as well, seems Monty was using Coyle as a sub for the 1, 3, 4 lines. Not sure about the last 5 with Lindholm but we saw Orlov with that long shift.
 

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I've seen enough of Foligno and Forbort for a little while.

Forbort is not really important for the penalty kill with Orlov on the team and as such he just steals shifts from Grizzy's offensive value 5v5.

Foligno? IDK, I'd rather see Greer and definitely rather see Lauko. What are we doing here? Monty doesn't even seem to want him on the ice (8:39). As a result, one of the Bruins' superpowers of just rolling four lines until the other team finally craters was not quite the same tonight.

And the proof seemed to be in the pudding where there were all of these crazy, first time groupings tonight to sort of avoid (it seemed) really rolling the four lines where Uncle Nick would have to be out there for real minutes.

Free Gryzelcyk!

(Florida is fucked once Bergeron starts winning the face-offs, btw).
I had an opposite takeaway.

I don’t know that Gryzelck’s better skating as a defender is worth more that Forbort’s size. I feel like Gryz is susceptible to being part of a group caught out against an agressive set of forwards, and then in deep, his skating and stick handling are lesser assets.

I also don’t know that Greer wouldn’t get suckered into a bad penalty against what feels like a chippy Florida team. I would maybe prefer Lauko to Foligno, to get some more countering speed on the forward group. Reports were that the GI bug running through the tea hit Lauko hard, though, so he may be okay for Wednesday, or may need more time to go full out.
 

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Man, the Panther's really wore down in the third. They were a completely different team in the third P compared to P1 and P2 to my eyes. The B's, as sick as they might be, finished unbelievably strong. There was one shift late in the 3rd when the B's were in the offensive zone for what felt like 15 mins (it was more like 2 mins) and the Panthers players were burnt toast. I noticed #7, whoever that is, barely even moving. Was great to see. This B's team is something else.
 

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Man, the Panther's really wore down in the third. They were a completely different team in the third P compared to P1 and P2 to my eyes. The B's, as sick as they might be, finished unbelievably strong. There was one shift late in the 3rd when the B's were in the offensive zone for what felt like 15 mins (it was more like 2 mins) and the Panthers players were burnt toast. I noticed #7, whoever that is, barely even moving. Was great to see. This B's team is something else.
I think that was the shift that ended up in the disallowed goal?
 

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Definitely matchups. Hall doesn't play SH so with the penalty and FL pulling the goalie with 3 to go, that's 5 of the last ~9 minutes. With Freddie and Fliggy not seeing the ice as well, seems Monty was using Coyle as a sub for the 1, 3, 4 lines. Not sure about the last 5 with Lindholm but we saw Orlov with that long shift.
I think this is right.
One thing that stuck out during the empty-net time was that there were very few icing calls. Off the top of my head, Marchand had one very early in the empty-net run and maybe there was another one later. But there was a stretch of about 5 or 6 non-icing clears that prevented Florida from getting matchup advantages on late faceoffs in the Bruins end.

As for the Frobot.....Monty obviously likes him. And Monty is not a moron. So, trying to reverse engineer his thinking-- as said upthread, the PK with Orlov did fine without him. BUT--does relieving Orlov of some PK help open up his offense. Orlov was flying offensively last night. (I wrote that before checking the box score. Orlov's SH time was only a minute fewer than Frobot/Carlo, so maybe it's a way of keeping Lindholm & McAvoy (1 SH shift each) fresher or more "on schedule" for their shifts?)
 

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Don’t think Hall was hurt? Didn’t notice anything, he looked very good all night.

Thought Pasta was really ineffective and cherry picking during the 5 on 5. Looked like he missed his buddy. Marchand and the 3rd/4th lines were quite good, as were all defense pairings.
Pasta had a weird game. He had a bunch of great plays and a bunch of low effort plays in his own zone last night where he took the path of least resistance, e.g. poke checking instead of taking the body.
 

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Man, the Panther's really wore down in the third. They were a completely different team in the third P compared to P1 and P2 to my eyes. The B's, as sick as they might be, finished unbelievably strong. There was one shift late in the 3rd when the B's were in the offensive zone for what felt like 15 mins (it was more like 2 mins) and the Panthers players were burnt toast. I noticed #7, whoever that is, barely even moving. Was great to see. This B's team is something else.
The depth of the Bruins allows them to be more even in terms of TOI. I think that showed last night, and has likely been true all season, which probably has implications for relative fatigue. Shades of 2011.
 

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I think that was the shift that ended up in the disallowed goal?
That may be it, but I am not sure. It's all a blur to me, as I was up way past my bedtime.
It definitely was, I know this because I was in the middle of typing, and I quote, "I FUCKING LOVE CHARLIE COYLE" when they scored the disallowed goal. Coyle alone felt like he had about a minute of possession where nobody could touch him, and it was one of those shifts where they cycled, won every puck battle, won every loose puck. Must have been a gutting shift for the Panthers as time was growing short.
 

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Ullmark show last night. The defense turned in their 5th worst effort of the year, allowing 3.04 xGA at 5x5. The only 4 games they allowed more was the Flames game, the Penguins game early in the year when they rallied from a big defecit, a Devils game around New Years and then the regular season finale. It's a little concerning that they've suddenly coughed up two defensive hairballs in a row, but I'm willing to blame some of it on the bug that's going around and they didn't have the best defensive player in hockey for 5 of those periods. It was also a good sign that their best period was the 3rd. Just need periods 1 and 2 to be more like period 3.

Underrated good night for Tomas Nosek. Only 12.5% ozone start, matched up primarily with the Barkov line and held them in check. Nosek was also outstanding on faceoffs.
 

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Once concern....If Bergeron's absence was only sickness-related, I'm guessing he would not have been in the room before the game. So something else in addition?