1. Zappe for not being good
2. Parker for getting his foot out of bounds
3. Stevenson for his great first half turnover
2. Parker for getting his foot out of bounds
3. Stevenson for his great first half turnover
He blows. Probably should be released at this point.Was Gesicki benched?
You can’t get negative pointsLooking at the stats it is hard to imagine how they got zero points.
Is that one of those if a tree falls in the forests kind of questions?Was Gesicki benched?
Barely hit his finger tips as juju would sayI only caught sporadic parts of the game, but I laughed out loud wathcing Thorton drop (and not even touch?) a wide open deep pass on what I can only assume was Zappe's best pass of the day.
The QBs stink but this WR group without Bourne (and Pop/Parker in and out of the lineup) is next level comically bad.
I saw him in the huddle at one point. His impact on the game was obviously quite memorable.Was Gesicki benched?
It literally hasn't happened since 1938, lol.How many times in the modern NFL has a team given up 10 or fewer points in three straight weeks and come away 0-3?
The defense needs to get the memo.
Not since 1938How many times in the modern NFL has a team given up 10 or fewer points in three straight weeks and come away 0-3?
The defense needs to get the memo.
I know this whole thread is tongue in cheek, but he was injured on the play and had to be helped off the field, come on.1. Zappe for not being good
2. Parker for getting his foot out of bounds
3. Stevenson for his great first half turnover
Related stat lifted from PP:How many times in the modern NFL has a team given up 10 or fewer points in three straight weeks and come away 0-3?
The defense needs to get the memo.
Remember when the addition of Klemm and BoB was supposed to be worth a few wins on its own? UghEveryone on the O aside from Zeke and Rham
BoB
Don’t give Mac any challenges, because that’s the sort of occasion he could totally rise to.You can’t get negative points
I think 1993 has that title given the state of the franchise at that time, they were a total joke, played in a stadium that might passed for a top Texas high school football stadium, m and at threat of relocation. This sucks, but it isn’t in the same ballpark.Zero question in my mind that the 2024 draft is the most important one in franchise history. They absolutely, positively, 100% need to not screw it up. They HAVE to get it right. I think there's many ways they could get it right, and a lot more ways they could get it wrong, but when you end up with the kind of draft slot they'll have, they have have HAVE to get it right.
Agreed. Calling the 2024 draft the most important in the last 30 years of the franchise is dramatic enough, I think.I think 1993 has that title given the state of the franchise at that time, they were a total joke, played in a stadium that might passed for a top Texas high school football stadium, m and at threat of relocation. This sucks, but it isn’t in the same ballpark.
That's fair. So call this the most important draft since then.I think 1993 has that title given the state of the franchise at that time, they were a total joke, played in a stadium that might passed for a top Texas high school football stadium, m and at threat of relocation. This sucks, but it isn’t in the same ballpark.
Honestly, I only mentioned it because it made me feel better to remind myself that this is a minor speed bump in comparison to what was/could be.That's fair. So call this the most important draft since then.
Eh. If they get it wrong they can try again in 2025Zero question in my mind that the 2024 draft is the most important one in franchise history. They absolutely, positively, 100% need to not screw it up. They HAVE to get it right. I think there's many ways they could get it right, and a lot more ways they could get it wrong, but when you end up with the kind of draft slot they'll have, they have have HAVE to get it right.
The importance of this draft depends on how you view the upcoming draft class. If they take a QB and whiff or sit him for a year, BB or not in charge, I could certainly see them drafting near the top again the following year. This year isn't some "they're lucky to be dropping these games," this is a moribund franchise with no identifiable pathway to putting points on the board.
Lose just wrote the exact same sentiment above. The fact that they could be drafting near the top in 2025 is a legitimate observation. I'm sorry, is it the tone?You've already lost some time here for posting the same shit over and over. And upon your return, you decide to post the same shit over and over?
I'm 100% positive you don't need this explained.Lose just wrote the exact same sentiment above. The fact that they could be drafting near the top in 2025 is a legitimate observation. I'm sorry, is it the tone?
The Patriots are losing to the dregs of the NFL.The idea that this is a moribund franchise is bizarre to me. If you ignore QB and one true offensive weapon (just for argument sake), and Gonzalez/Judon are healthy, is there really a significant gap in talent between the the Pats roster spots 3-53 and those of playoff contenders like Houston, Indy, Denver, Jacksonville or Cleveland? Sure some of those teams are a bit better (Cleveland) but it’s not the chasm a lot of people seem to be suggesting
a franchise QB and a good (not even elite) WR and health on D and this team is in the playoff mix. Not on Philly or SF’s level. Not on the same level as Dallas and Miami either. But a solid enough team that can get into the playoffs? Yeah I’d say so.
Of course, that applies to a lot of teams. But a franchise QB moves the needle a lot. Houston had a garbage roster last year and they’re in the mix this year thanks to nailing their franchise QB and adding a quality (not elite) weapon in Dell. Anderson has been good too of course but their resurgence has been because their offense has gone from putrid to very good.
there have been very few rosters across the league the past 20 years which have been truly moribund 3+ year rebuild projects. There is way too much parity in the league and most teams are “only” a franchise QB and one or two other guys away from being in the mix.
not saying it’s easy to find the missing pieces. But the talent level outside of QB and top of WR depth chart isn’t awful. It’s average, maybe a little above average on defense. Put a Stroud and Dell on this team and they probably have 6-7 wins with a real shot at the wild card, especially if Judon and Gonzalez (or one of them) was healthy.
no roster is going to look good with bottom of the league QB play and arguably their two best defensive players out for the year.
Forget I used the term "moribund." I was referring entirely to the offense. And per the bold, this is wrong. It's bad at all depth levels. A great QB and a top -flight WR helps every team. This team is broken in the way it scouts, develops, game plans and executes that entire side of the ball. Special teams is also broken, but that's another discussion.not saying it’s easy to find the missing pieces. But the talent level outside of QB and top of WR depth chart isn’t awful. It’s average, maybe a little above average on defense. Put a Stroud and Dell on this team and they probably have 6-7 wins with a real shot at the wild card, especially if Judon and Gonzalez (or one of them) was healthy.
this team wasted practice time to put in a package for Cunningham and then never used him? Maybe the package was only if Pats were getting blown out, but still...Where was Malik Cunningham?