In season tournament official
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The idea is to expand revenue, not reduce it or stay even. Why would they give up gates to regular season games?
I mean, from a money making standpoint you're absolutely correct. From a fan's perspective, I think they could've done better.
Come on. It’s like the FA cup for Basketball. It’ll be fun to watch. I wish the NHL would do the same thing.
Shouldn't there be a draw of pots like in UEFA continental cups? Don't we want a full hour show where Patrick Ewing or Dikembe Mutombo draw the groups???
It said in the video--random draw based on last season's records. Not sure how "random based on records will work" yet.
wait, why does every team qualify for the tournament? Shouldn't previous season's record (say top 20) get to play?
Will there be a Community Shield equivalent after the pre-season where In-Season Tournament winner plays Finals winner?
Will there be a Community Shield equivalent after the pre-season where In-Season Tournament winner plays Finals winner?
Yes I am aware of the format that they use to determine a champion. It doesn’t make the FA cup, a different competition, less fun for me to watch.
Not sure it would have an effect on that in November. It's akin to a conference basketball tourney--everyone plays.
His podcasts would be better if he did half as many. He’s not going to do that for the same reason the NBA and every other professional sports league isn’t going to shorten their seasons. I wish he would stop bringing this up.
On the tourney, I don’t think most teams will care, and I think some veterans will actively dislike it and it’s going to show.
Why are we all assuming it’s the Boston team that’s going to start the minor league team?
I mean I wouldn’t turn it off if I stumbled upon it. I mean fuck, I was feverishly refreshing the remnants of Twitter for B’s development camp scrimmage highlights. I’ll take any hockey I can get.
Would have been more fun to have East and West teams mixed in these groups, IMO.
I genuinely don’t understand the point of this. Are fans and players supposed to really care about winning?
If this was some kind of global, club tournament I’d get it. But this? Why?
If this was some kind of global, club tournament I’d get it. But this? Why?
$500K for each player on the champion, $200K for runners up, $100K for losing semis, $50K for quarters losers?
I just don't think that's enough of an incentive to care about this if you're a team to put your best foot forward. If you did actively care about it, the guys you'd use to actively win are making too much that this is dwarfed in significance, especially with recent cap changes. If I'm a savvy team, I'm seeing this as an opportunity for free developmental minutes among both my young guys but also somewhere between my 6 to 10 (depending on team) types to see what works for bench combos in the playoffs. What this ultimately is going to wind up being is seeing something like Pacers/Pelicans in the final. Does anyone really want that?
The FA Cup, CdR, DFB-Pokal, CdF, Coppa Italia, etc. all make sense because you can still win those at a lower level and the smaller teams get to host world power clubs, an opportunity they otherwise wouldn't get. Futbol also gets the edge that the value of a given make is more significant than in basketball, of relative expected value opportunity, as a relative rate of success. It wouldn't mean much if a G-League guy scored on, say, Denver. It would mean everything, if disgustingly so, if Paris FC scores on PSG.
I just don't think that's enough of an incentive to care about this if you're a team to put your best foot forward. If you did actively care about it, the guys you'd use to actively win are making too much that this is dwarfed in significance, especially with recent cap changes. If I'm a savvy team, I'm seeing this as an opportunity for free developmental minutes among both my young guys but also somewhere between my 6 to 10 (depending on team) types to see what works for bench combos in the playoffs. What this ultimately is going to wind up being is seeing something like Pacers/Pelicans in the final. Does anyone really want that?
The FA Cup, CdR, DFB-Pokal, CdF, Coppa Italia, etc. all make sense because you can still win those at a lower level and the smaller teams get to host world power clubs, an opportunity they otherwise wouldn't get. Futbol also gets the edge that the value of a given make is more significant than in basketball, of relative expected value opportunity, as a relative rate of success. It wouldn't mean much if a G-League guy scored on, say, Denver. It would mean everything, if disgustingly so, if Paris FC scores on PSG.
NBA in-season tournament coming in November, December: Details on the format, dates, prize money and more - The Athletic
This is confusing...
This is confusing...
Home, Away, Alternate, Cup jerseys?
This feels very clumped together
I think it would be interesting if, for example, the winner was slated to move up 15 spots in the draft or something like that. Or have the finalists automatically qualify for one of the Top 6 playoff spots. That may be on the table for the future.
As it is, NBA gets a few sold out games in Vegas, and the teams and eventually players get some $$$ as a result.
As it is, NBA gets a few sold out games in Vegas, and the teams and eventually players get some $$$ as a result.
What part was confusing? It's really not going to be many extra games.
And this isn't directed at you, but someone on twitter was talking about this and said that the whole thing where it's become cool to dislike things means a lot of what could be interesting ideas never get tried.
This would be interesting if they played in non-NBA arenas, like the barnstorming exhibitions from the 60s and 70s. It's not like it's a home and away group stage...
I feel like most non-finals FA Cup matches I tune in to have maybe 5k people in the crowd.
Count me in as thinking this is dumb. The local boys have already played more than a season's worth of extra games over this recent run. We don't need Tatum rolling an ankle in pursuit of $500k.
Count me in as thinking this is dumb. The local boys have already played more than a season's worth of extra games over this recent run. We don't need Tatum rolling an ankle in pursuit of $500k.
Eh, this isn’t hating on a new idea to get cool points. It’s being befuddled by an idea that just doesn’t make a lot of immediate sense.
What problem is being solved for here? What legitimate excitement is being created?
I like things like the WBC, or having pros pause a season to play in the Olympics.
This feels like a money grab by the league. More games to get TV money, and new jerseys to sell merch.
I'm looking forward to the alternative uniforms to mark this giant step forward in the NBA leaving no dollar euro rupee yen or ruble unclaimed. I've no idea what they are playing for. It might be fun if the NBA invited league champs from Europe or wherever to participate in this venture. Shit who wouldn't watch Celts v Real Madrid?
The only extra game is the championship. Unless your argument is stars shouldn't give max effort in regular season games, I'm not sure what the issue here is?
I'm excited that random Tuesday games in November have some extra juice attached.
I'm excited that random Tuesday games in November have some extra juice attached.
Most likely a travel thing. Don't think teams would be thrilled having to fly across the country for a game or two.
1) I agree with others that it could be better, particularly if including EuroLeague clubs, G League, maybe even college or semipro in the US. And have teams enter at different stages, like the big soccer cups do. Even the group stage could be more creative.
2) That said, it's the first time they're trying this, there is a need to get the players to have some buy-in and this is a minimal increase in workload. I'll watch, and I'm sure they'll improve it for future years.
2) That said, it's the first time they're trying this, there is a need to get the players to have some buy-in and this is a minimal increase in workload. I'll watch, and I'm sure they'll improve it for future years.
The veteran stars are going to play 60-65 games assuming normal health. This tournament doesn't change that. It only potentially changes the specific games in which those players will play.
It's interesting seeing people ask what's the point because I understand but the confusion but also apply that logic to the entire enterprise. What's the point of the finals? What's the point of any of it?
We like sports because it's competition. This is more competition. What's the confusion?
We like sports because it's competition. This is more competition. What's the confusion?
FWIW, the NBA (and the networks) has long had a problem at getting premium ad buys prior to the Xmas day games. I suspect part of the motivation to do this tourney is to sell the importance of it to advertisers. And get them to pony up earlier than they typically do.
Seriously? The Finals are to crown a league-wide champion after a grueling 82 game regular season and 4 round playoff.
Among the reasons we like sports is that there are stakes. This feels like artificial stakes.
Call it the Las Vegas Holiday Classic and let the games begin. I hope this doesn't interfere with CJM's The Town nights. Sticking to routine is important.
The stakes are all artificial until we decide somewhat arbitrarily to grant them importance.