It's the halfway mark. Where we at?

Based on the health of the opening day roster have the Sox performed

  • Much better than you expected?

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • A little better than you expected?

    Votes: 50 15.2%
  • About the same as you expected?

    Votes: 172 52.4%
  • A little worse than you expected?

    Votes: 97 29.6%
  • Much worse than you expected?

    Votes: 5 1.5%

  • Total voters
    328
  • Poll closed .

JM3

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To your question @YTF and to @JM3 point, I could probably be a bit more clear. It's not that I think ALL non-closers are totally fungible, I think that the vast majority of bullpen pieces we've had or acquired the past several seasons are totally fungible. In short, if someone is a relief pitcher but not a bona fide closer, 28 or over, and doesn't have a track record of dominance in the 'pen, I think they're totally fungible on a rebuilding team that isn't put together to contend for a title in that season.

Build a team the way we did in 2003-2008 or 2015-2019 and I'd totally get spending on the 'pen too, when you're spending everywhere else to try and win a title. I don't think anyone would argue we're spending to try and win a title right now (nor do I think that is the plan, to be clear).


But it's why I was strongly advocating (using Baseball Trade Values) trading something like Shcrieber and Duran for HS Kim (not that I thought SD would ever do it, but the numbers matched up) but also said there was no way I'd trade Houck for HS Kim (due to years of control for each).


In long -

If Whitlock or Houck were pitching out of the bullpen, I wouldn't so cavalier about them, nor would I be advocating to trade them. I want to make that crystal clear.

I'm very intrigued by Murphy (SSS alert) with his 4.0 k to bb ratio and I want to see a heck of a lot more of him the rest of the way to see if he can be a shut down relief pitcher. I feel mostly the same way about Crawford as a relief pitcher (though I totally support trying him in the rotation right now). I certainly am not suggesting to move either of those players, and I certainly wouldn't be advocating moving someone in their early 20s and pitching like Daniel Bard in 2009 or even Manny Delcarmen in 2005.

I also don't want to just get rid of those guys for nothing (as mentioned), especially Winckowski because at least he is dirt cheap, but if you can get real value for any of Martin (because I don't think the Sox are going to be good next year either based on what I perceive "the plan" to be) or Winckowski (because he is out-performing his FIP by a run and a half and only has a 6.4 k/9 ratio), I'd certainly do it. If someone offered you stupid value for Kenley, I'd take that too, but I wouldn't be actively soliciting trade offers the way I would for Martin (or Winckowski, but again, he'd be tougher for me to move).

Because I do think that the Chris Martin's of the world have a lot more value on a contending team than on this team, and I really hope that Bloom is actively trying to see if that is the case. If he now goes and moves Martin for "Ben Brown", I'll applaud him for spending $13.75m (see below) to get a really good prospect and call that a clear win for Bloom where I was wrong - but I think you need to make the trade to actually capitalize on that value.



However, generally speaking, I think spending any money on old, non-dominant, non-closers when the rest of your team is put together to be "meh" is just flushing away money that could be used elsewhere because you can probably get the same from guys off the scrap heap or any youngish "failed" SP in the minors.

I think this season has added more fuel to my f
Our primary disagreement is that you seem to be implying that Martin is "non-dominant".

& that you'd rather use that money to sign ok players to long term contracts where their most valuable season is during that same time period you're conceding.

& to some extent how easy it is to backfill a whole relief core without having to shuttle through a lot of awful play, but mostly the 1st 2 things.
 

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The bummer of it all is that I kind of think that Story would have made a difference for this team so far. Even if WAR would say he only would have been good maybe for a couple of games, the way this team has been it really feels like adding him on both sides of the ball would get other guys into more comfortable roles and could be a rising tide that helps float all boats. Not like they'd be competing for the division or anything, but I think with a healthy Story they are maybe two, three games above .500. Sucks that he's likely going to come back too late to make a difference as to whether or not we're sellers.
 

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They’re about 3 games under what I hoped. This last round of injuries at catcher and SP are pretty concerning. Middle infield has never improved.

I still think they have a better second half than last year (low bar) and end up in the mid-80’s.
 

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Better than expected.
I'm impressed the team managed 40 wins at the turn given Chaim's dysfunctional roster experimentation.
I'm more impressed Chaim still has a job within the organization.
 

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The 2015 team was 35-43 on June 29th on their way to a 74 win season.

You mentioned Bello, but watching Verdugo and Duran this year has been a treat, Casas is rounding into form offensively (man, do I hope his defense improves, though), Yoshida is a ton of fun (though older for sure), Winckowski has been largely very fun, and while Houck and Whitlock have been a mixed bag, they have shown flashes of something to dream on, as well.

Meanwhile, there is a crop of players tearing up the mid-minors, and as unlikely as it is that all of them pan out, it is just as likely that a few of them will.

Again, I am disappointed by the way this season has gone so far, but there is plenty about this team that is still there to be enjoyed, if you are willing.
I’m not trying to rain on anyone’s parade. My 2015 reference was not about record, but because it was clear that the 3 guys I mentioned were all special players who were going to be the cornerstones of the future.

I’m not there yet with most of the guys on this team. I really like Verdugo but he’s been a major leaguer for several years now. So I don’t put him in this category. I’m psyched that Yoshida is working out, but again I wouldn’t put him in the “young player” category.

The pitchers end at Bello, IMHO. I’m not gonna get too jazzed about middle relievers, and the other starters have literally had as many awful starts as good ones.

I don’t follow the minors, so that’s moot for me.

But listen, if you’re having fun then have fun.
 

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I voted for slightly below expectations. Their record is around what I expected, but I didn't expect the team to be this ugly to watch. To my surprise, the overall changes MLB has made seem to be working. Over the past 10 or so years, my interest in MLB had been gradually fading. I think the unbalanced schedule (with interleague National League rules) and the constant AL East play eventually wore me down more than anything. I just turned 50 and my daughter's (and her friends) love for the game has kind of brought me back in. We got her the MLB package and she can't watch enough games. I can definitely appreciate the faster pace of play. And the kids seem like they enjoy it much more, so that is good for the game long term.

As for the Sox, it is obviously going to take some time and patience to get back to a high-level team. I prefer the blow-it-up and rebuild style myself. If figure if we have to suffer for a couple of seasons, I can at least score great tickets at a reasonable price for a short time period. My buddies and I drove in from Western, MA all the time in the early 1990s and had a blast. We are stuck in the middle now and that is frustrating to be sure.
 

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Right about what I expected. Completely, 100% mediocre.

The number show a top 10 offense in baseball. Hard to believe that when you look at the daily lineup card and actually watch the games, but static’s don’t lie, right?

This team was built to be competitive and not completely suck, with the outside chance of playoffs if everything broke right. So it’s about where it should be. Things haven’t broken “right” so here we are looking forward to 2024.

As expected.
 

Benj4ever

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Half way in they are - combined - exactly what I expected, right down to an injured Chris Sale.

A little below .500; last place in the division. Technically speaking close enough to the playoffs that (incredibly maddeningly, for the second year in a row) they won't do what a rebuilding team should do, which is sell off any pieces that aren't under contract for the following year and give time to young players.

While this isn't a "young" team, I will say I've been pleasantly surprised that they've continued to let the "young core" work through their issues at the big league level, to varying degrees of success at this point, regarding Bello, Casas, Houck, Whitlock and Duran.


What I'd like to see in the second half:

1) Extension for Verdugo.

2) Actively look to sell Paxton, Turner, Duvall and Martin (these are the guys I think they could get something decent for). Move Turner and Duvall even if you don't get something good for them (see #5).

3) Remove in any way necessary Hernandez, Arroyo, Kluber, Bleier and Ort. Give time to players in Worcester or EVEN BETTER - to young players you acquire for guys mentioned above.

4) Actively try to see if someone will give up good value for Winckowski, Bernardino or Pivetta (teams always seem to pay up for relief pitchers at the deadline), if not though might as well keep Winckowski, even though he's drastically outperforming his FIP.

5) Give as much time as possible to actual young players. Most notably Duran (move Duvall), most likely Abreu or "possibly" Rafaela (move Turner, put Yoshida at DH), most likely Valdez - but I wouldn't be at all opposed to the idea of giving time to Yorke (move Hernandez and Arroyo).

6) Unless you're going to go out and trade for multiple starting pitchers with control through at least next season (highly unlikely), keep Bello, Whitlock, Houck (when he returns) in the rotation no matter what. Crawford you might as well too, but those three specifically.

Edit - being in the bullpen in mostly long relief duty, I forgot about Pivetta even still being on the team, but if you can get value and you're not going to start him, sell him too.
I actually thought this team was going to be able to play defense, so I thought they'd be a few games better than this. I expected Bello to produce, hands down, because his stuff is so good.

I agree about 80% with your second half wishes. I wouldn't necessarily look to move Paxton, provided he can stay healthy. I wouldn't look to move Winck, unless someone blows me away with a deal. If the Sox aren't in it, I'd be looking to move Jansen and give Pivetta a shot at closer. Otherwise, I'm right with you.
 

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Thanks for letting us do that. I'll conclude that the offense has been pretty much exactly average this month.

It's been a disappointing month, but on the whole it's a top five offense. I expect it to be going forward, no matter how much June has disappointed folks.
Starting… tomorrow!
 

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I actually thought this team was going to be able to play defense, so I thought they'd be a few games better than this. I expected Bello to produce, hands down, because his stuff is so good.

I agree about 80% with your second half wishes. I wouldn't necessarily look to move Paxton, provided he can stay healthy. I wouldn't look to move Winck, unless someone blows me away with a deal. If the Sox aren't in it, I'd be looking to move Jansen and give Pivetta a shot at closer. Otherwise, I'm right with you.
If he stays healthy and productive, Paxton (a FA after this season) may well be your most valuable asset to trade. Add to that the fact that he'll be owed roughly 1.35M at the deadline which may make him even more attractive. .
 

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They’re about what I expected. Maybe a little worse. Bello is fun. Overall and so far I preferred last year’s team. Looking forward to April, but who knows, maybe they’ll get hot.
 

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How many times has he said that lately? Yet nothing ever changes.

They can’t hit. They can’t field AT ALL. They get good starts maybe 40% of the time.

They are replicating 2022 pretty damn accurately.
The team is an image of the manager. There's no fire, no energy anymore. I'm not saying flip over tables or toss the gatorade bucket but when was the last time he got upset about anything? Whenever they show him he's just sitting/kneeling there, no chatter, just looking back to see if they should challenge a play.
 

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If he stays healthy and productive, Paxton (a FA after this season) may well be your most valuable asset to trade. Add to that the fact that he'll be owed roughly 1.35M at the deadline which may make him even more attractive. .
I get the part about his trade value (although I didn't know about the 1.35M), but if he can pitch anywhere near how he's been doing, for the next few years he could be the successful veteran starter every team needs.
 

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I get the part about his trade value (although I didn't know about the 1.35M), but if he can pitch anywhere near how he's been doing, for the next few years he could be the successful veteran starter every team needs.
Here's a relevant Twitter exchange from today

@ChrisCotillo
Red Sox are pushing Brandon Walter back a day “for now,” source says. Both Alex Cora and James Paxton insisted Paxton will start tomorrow. Walter was scratched from AAA start tonight.

@redsoxstats
Getting him lined up with Paxton now for the eventual trade.
 

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They had a winning record in 2019.
The 2019 team started poorly (6-13), had a recovering surge to 22-19 by May 12, but stumbled along to a .500 record (34-34) as late as June 11. Cora promised things would get going any time now. Eventually they did, but it wasn't enough to overcome the overall "no-urgency" start, and they failed to make the post season.

In 2022 they also started poorly (10-19) but instead really fired up the wins, peaking above .500 at 42-31 on June 26. Then the injury derailment began and they fell under .500 by July 26th, never to recover.

This year is a smaller wave. A 5-8 start, but by May 6th they were 21-14. After that they faded to a .500 team at 35-35 on June 5, then bobbed up 4 games and back down again under 2, today.

So this year (so far) feels far more like the non-urgent 2019, as opposed to the truly resurgent then derailed 2022.
 

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Here's a relevant Twitter exchange from today

@ChrisCotillo
Red Sox are pushing Brandon Walter back a day “for now,” source says. Both Alex Cora and James Paxton insisted Paxton will start tomorrow. Walter was scratched from AAA start tonight.

@redsoxstats
Getting him lined up with Paxton now for the eventual trade.
Thanks for the info. I'd be disappointed to see him go (unless we go after him in free agency, of course).
 

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It’s nice to dream of a big return for Paxton, but how realistic is that? Teams just don’t give up a lot for a few months or a player who no longer returns draft pick compensation. He should be placed in bubble wrap for the next month just in case, though.
 

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Here's a relevant Twitter exchange from today

@ChrisCotillo
Red Sox are pushing Brandon Walter back a day “for now,” source says. Both Alex Cora and James Paxton insisted Paxton will start tomorrow. Walter was scratched from AAA start tonight.

@redsoxstats
Getting him lined up with Paxton now for the eventual trade.
Think they're trading him before the break? Not sure what lining them up now does otherwise.
 

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They would be smart to, honestly, before the minor ailment he had this time turns into something more serious next time.

Players who have been injured before are very likely to get injured again and he dodged a bullet this time. Get max value while you can and turn the page.

One start to show he's good (fingers crossed), then send him off to, I dunno, LA or Anaheim for a depth piece and maybe a fringe prospect and an AAA guy to take Lamet or whoever spot in Worcester, even if they have to kick in $500K to get it done.
 

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The team is an image of the manager. There's no fire, no energy anymore. I'm not saying flip over tables or toss the gatorade bucket but when was the last time he got upset about anything? Whenever they show him he's just sitting/kneeling there, no chatter, just looking back to see if they should challenge a play.
If you think the field manager is the problem with this team, then I don’t know what to tell you. They don’t have enough good players.
 

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They didn’t feel like a team built to win, small core and a bunch of short term deals. No one to get excited about outside of Bello, Yoshida and Casas.

Tired of not having franchise players and long term vets that are fun to root for beyond the winning and losing. The roster churn is exhausting.
 

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I was expecting middling and middling they are. The good news is they've had flashes of being really fun and perhaps even competitive. The bad news is they're still just flashes. This team isn't a murderer's row of sluggers but it has the offense on paper to pick up some of the slack of another season of Bloom's glass cannons. With more consistent production at the dish, maybe we'd be able to hang in position to make a run. At least they'd be more consistently fun to watch.
 

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They didn’t feel like a team built to win, small core and a bunch of short term deals. No one to get excited about outside of Bello, Yoshida and Casas.

Tired of not having franchise players and long term vets that are fun to root for beyond the winning and losing. The roster churn is exhausting.
So you don't like Raffy?
 

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They would be smart to, honestly, before the minor ailment he had this time turns into something more serious next time.

Players who have been injured before are very likely to get injured again and he dodged a bullet this time. Get max value while you can and turn the page.

One start to show he's good (fingers crossed), then send him off to, I dunno, LA or Anaheim for a depth piece and maybe a fringe prospect and an AAA guy to take Lamet or whoever spot in Worcester, even if they have to kick in $500K to get it done.
Pedro is excited about Lamet, though.

View: https://twitter.com/tylermilliken_/status/1674423509865631744
 

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I was more enthusiastic at the quarter mark when the offense was clicking. I didn't think I would enjoy the pitching more than the hitting, but this lineup is thoroughly boring with just one player (Verdugo and kinda Raffy) on pace to be an above average major leaguer.

A good chunk of that was Connor Wong looking like a solid core piece and top defender. Now he ranks 70th out of 72 catchers in pitch framing, and there seems to be too much swing and miss keeping his offensive ceiling low. There are worse tandems, but if they are looking to improve, this is still an area of need.

With Trevor Story not close to returning, Devers and Casas are the two guys who they need most to turn it on. There are no other players way underperforming with the bat. Duran is also a wild card since we've seen him on an extended tear.

They are basically the NESN announcer tandem of baseball teams right now.
 

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It’s nice to dream of a big return for Paxton, but how realistic is that? Teams just don’t give up a lot for a few months or a player who no longer returns draft pick compensation. He should be placed in bubble wrap for the next month just in case, though.
Big return may not be the way to look at this, but rather the opportunity for your best return among the current roster. Big ifs are placed on continued health and success these next four weeks, but if that happens then consider multiple suitors. Also consider that the playoff structure and the pushed back trade deadline tends to see more teams in the playoff hunt at the deadline. Nearly each one of those is looking for an upgrade in the rotation if they can find it. Paxton currently represents what many teams would like to have at a minimal addition to the teams' payroll and no future commitment. A team in serious contention with a healthy farm system (Ideally more than one) would likely offer a bit more for this sort of player. You're not likely to get a "haul" here, but I think there is definitely a better market for Paxton than some other pitchers...IF
 

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They are basically the NESN announcer tandem of baseball teams right now.
And man that is another reason to find something better to do with your evenings. Dave with Wake and Millar took away a good chunk of the pleasure of watching a near no hitter last night.

I know it isn't 100% accurate, but I feel like they are 3 or 4 wins behind where I expected and that they have given those games away with their crappy defense.
 

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Chronically injured and last effective in 2020. Sure he's a free dice roll when they need starter coverage, so kick the tires, I suppose.
Yeah, I mean that's why he's available for free. Pedro is a much more excited about this guy than I am, but in its own way, it's kind of cool Pedro is excited - even if he may be wrong.
 

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We all remember when Pedro would invent "slights" when he was at the top of his game to find new things to have a chip on his shoulder about (or just go back to the Lasorda well); I feel like now he's inventing things to feel good about to have something to think is worth tuning in for the days Bello isn't pitching.



My point on Paxton is more that I'd actively shop him, but only deal him if you get something that looks good for future value. I went through recently to try and find similar recent deals (mentioned up-thread, closest I could find were Heaney, Syndergaard and Quintana). Two of those returned decent future value, one did not. The team isn't really good enough where his starts (even if he is good) matter all that much, but you still need someone to pitch and everyone that is interesting is either already pitching (Bello, Whitlock, Crawford) or injured (Houck), so if you can't get something good you might as well keep him - even with my personal expectation that he will get injured again at some point this season.

It's really tough to gauge what they might get on Paxton. On the one hand, he's pitching very well. On the other, I can absolutely see another GM being wary of acquiring a guy based on 8 good starts out of the past 3 seasons. But they should at least actively solicit offers to see what shakes out.


I agree with the tenor of your point @brandonchristensen; it wasn't a team built to win. It was a team built to be a wild card squad if everything went right, and predictably they're not hitting on everything, so they're not in playoff position (and to be clear, I understand the rationale behind WHY the team was built that way). I really do think the team could be interesting in the second half (not likely good, but interesting) if they'd give time to their actual prospects in the high minors. You'd at least feel like something was being built toward.

Just on the offense in general, I think a lot of us were concerned about it all through the off-season. They were banking on a lot of production from old, one year stop gap players (Duvall and Turner) and guys that, frankly, just aren't good offensively (Hernandez career 94 OPS+, Arroyo 88 OPS+, Refsnyder also 88 OPS+). Thankfully they've gotten some excess production out of Verdugo and Yoshida to mitigate a little less than one expects from Devers, but at a certain point, didn't many of us anticipate Devers having very little protection in the line up the way the team was constructed.



It'll be interesting to see how the trade deadline shakes out and the second half of the season for sure. There are some pieces they could move that one might think would get decent interest on the trade market. However, I think they should look to try and sell them right now when - ostensibly at least - more teams are buying or open to the idea of it.
 

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If you think the field manager is the problem with this team, then I don’t know what to tell you. They don’t have enough good players.
Not my point at all. My point was that in the past he seemed much more energetic (for lack of a better word) and the team seems to resemble the lack of energy the manager has shown. I was in no way trying to say Cora was the only problem.
 

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They were banking on a lot of production from old, one year stop gap players (Duvall and Turner) and guys that, frankly, just aren't good offensively (Hernandez career 94 OPS+, Arroyo 88 OPS+, Refsnyder also 88 OPS+).
This is mostly fair, but Refsnyder doesn't belong on this list. The reason he's still on the team and got his extension is that they made adjustments that got him playing above career norms; he has a 116 OPS+ with Boston and has been a real weapon vs LHP.
 

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I was more enthusiastic at the quarter mark when the offense was clicking. I didn't think I would enjoy the pitching more than the hitting, but this lineup is thoroughly boring with just one player (Verdugo and kinda Raffy) on pace to be an above average major leaguer.

A good chunk of that was Connor Wong looking like a solid core piece and top defender. Now he ranks 70th out of 72 catchers in pitch framing, and there seems to be too much swing and miss keeping his offensive ceiling low. There are worse tandems, but if they are looking to improve, this is still an area of need.

With Trevor Story not close to returning, Devers and Casas are the two guys who they need most to turn it on. There are no other players way underperforming with the bat. Duran is also a wild card since we've seen him on an extended tear.

They are basically the NESN announcer tandem of baseball teams right now.
Casas and Devers are not "way underperforming" with the bat
 

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This is mostly fair, but Refsnyder doesn't belong on this list. The reason he's still on the team and got his extension is that they made adjustments that got him playing above career norms; he has a 116 OPS+ with Boston and has been a real weapon vs LHP.
Yeah, I think RFsnyder's been a great addition to the club. He has a defined role that suits the club's needs, his defense has been mostly good and his bat has been decent since arriving. IMO he's exactly the type of guy you want at the bottom of the order, because he's good enough that he can help you avoid that "black hole" 7/8/9 spots that can be problematic. I don't think that he belongs anywhere near the top five slots in the BA, he just doesn't carry the sort of bat that you want to plug in there. But, the roster being what is, he seems to be popping up there and it's really hard to get down on him for that.
 

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The team is an image of the manager. There's no fire, no energy anymore. I'm not saying flip over tables or toss the gatorade bucket but when was the last time he got upset about anything? Whenever they show him he's just sitting/kneeling there, no chatter, just looking back to see if they should challenge a play.
He benched Verdugo and then gave Casas some time away from1B when his defense really cratered.
He is on TV about 1/100000000000000th of time the game is going on. I'm not saying anything one way or the other about his bench activity, but what we see on TV is not a reasonable way to assess it.

I agree, though that he seems worn out. I assume it's frustration over the "same shit new day" results.
 

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Casas and Devers are not "way underperforming" with the bat
Casas definitely seems to be figuring some things out. I'm still a bit frustrated with the lack of power/run production (and I really think that might be where some of the Casas bashing stems from) that we hoped to see. That said, with the way that the offense as a whole has been playing lately there hasn't been a ton of run producing opportunities. I think eventually he's going to show us more and we also have to remember that he has a grand total of 301 MLB ABs and even fewer in AAA.
 

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Casas and Devers are not "way underperforming" with the bat
I think you can quibble about that "way," but they are both underperforming expectations about somewhere around 10-15%. Devers is at wrc+ of 113, expected around 130, Casas at 102, expected of 110 or so. That's about 10-15% below expectations for each of them. Again, I think the offense is about as good as we could have expected it to be, but just to say those two are underperforming.
 

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Casas definitely seems to be figuring some things out. I'm still a bit frustrated with the lack of power/run production (and I really think that might be where some of the Casas bashing stems from) that we hoped to see. That said, with the way that the offense as a whole has been playing lately there hasn't been a ton of run producing opportunities. I think eventually he's going to show us more and we also have to remember that he has a grand total of 301 MLB ABs and even fewer in AAA.
I'm not sure why people were so sure Casas was gonna hit a bunch of dingers this year. The guy can put some distance on the ball, but he's only put out 17 home runs last year between AAA and the majors. His high-water mark is 19 in A ball. He's on pace for about that many this year.

He's very young, don't get me wrong, there's plenty of projection in there still. But to expect him to hit 25-30 home runs this year was maybe a little naive given his past production. Ortiz didn't become a 30-40 home run guy until he was 27. Adam Dunn, who is probably my favorite Casas comp, took off for 46 homers when he was 24 - but he also reached the bigs at a younger age.
 

jmanny24

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He benched Verdugo and then gave Casas some time away from1B when his defense really cratered.
He is on TV about 1/100000000000000th of time the game is going on. I'm not saying anything one way or the other about his bench activity, but what we see on TV is not a reasonable way to assess it.

I agree, though that he seems worn out. I assume it's frustration over the "same shit new day" results.
The bolded is all I was getting at, he seems less fiery than he used to be and to me it looks like the team has looked the same.
 

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I just cannot stand the little league defense. These are professionals. The defense has really hurt the pitching staff. How many close games have the shortstops screwed up with a botched play?
It's so weird that they are 11-18 vs the National League because the only good NL teams they have played are the Marlins, Braves, and Reds.
I have enjoyed the 9-1 record against the Jays and MFY, of course, they are 1-7 against TB.
The lack of athleticism is really noticeable. They are slow on the basepaths.