https://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/24/world/europe/twitter-cats-to-the-rescue-in-brussels-lockdown.htmlEveryone knows guns don't kill people. Cats kill people.
https://twitter.com/i/moments/668556669035651073
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/24/world/europe/twitter-cats-to-the-rescue-in-brussels-lockdown.htmlEveryone knows guns don't kill people. Cats kill people.
It’s noteworthy that his increased strength is giving him more of those mismatches, and letting him attack them in a more bullying manner.He's got a mismatch there, so that's absolutely what he should do in that case. No mismatch it's often a different story.
Watched the highlights from last nights game and although his shot wasn't falling there were at least 3 instances that he attacked off the dribble and drew the defense, didn't convert, but it meant an easy put back for Turner.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKFQs1jo_6s
Shedding all the iso crap and going to the basket more is exactly what he needs. Seems like he's got that figured out."[I was] making the game tougher than I probably should have," Tatum said last week.
Hearing it from a different, respected voice (Pop) also seems to have helped too. I think we sometimes forget that the dude would be entering his senior year in college right now: he's really young, and things take time.ESPN story on how Tatum is trying to shed the Kobe training: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27795809/the-de-kobeing-jayson-tatum-begun
At least he figured out the problem:
Shedding all the iso crap and going to the basket more is exactly what he needs. Seems like he's got that figured out.
I think the biggest issue is gaining confidence in shooting off the dribble treys. He clearly didn't have that confidence and when people ran him at the line he was ducking under and shooting from 3-5 steps in. So if he's confident now shooting off slide steps et al, that's going to be huge for his game. He still needs another 15 lbs of muscle to round out his drive game.Shedding all the iso crap and going to the basket more is exactly what he needs. Seems like he's got that figured out.
Agreed. He's taken some awkward tweener shots that haven't looked great but he is certainly making a conscious effort to either take it to the basket vs. settling for the mid-range jumper.Visually, he's driving to the basket a TON. Unfortunately, in the first two games I felt like he was missing those shots. All toast and no jelly But, I think they will fall eventually.
^this exactly^He’s still 15-20 pounds away from being an elite finisher. Right now he gets mauled on drives but he doesn’t get calls because he isn’t strong enough to absorb the contact. He’s going to get there, though.
Yes. Look at those shoulders. He could easily add 15-20 pounds of muscle.He’s still 15-20 pounds away from being an elite finisher. Right now he gets mauled on drives but he doesn’t get calls because he isn’t strong enough to absorb the contact. He’s going to get there, though.
He should be able to play at 240 or so with no loss of athleticism. Once he gets into that 235-240 range he’s going to get more calls.Yes. Look at those shoulders. He could easily add 15-20 pounds of muscle.
To my untrained eye, he doesn't have the explosion at the rim that I would expect. It almost looks like he is going up wrong footed a lot, based on how easily it appears that he is getting smothered there (compared to JB). Maybe that is just part and parcel of going up through contact.He'll definitely get stronger. But I don't think his main issue so far has been finishing through contact. He's going hard to the rim, but it's kinda out of control and his shots have had no touch at all. It's weird: a lot of his drives so far look like a crappy high school player, not someone we thought had a preternatural feel for offense.
He'll finish better as he fills out. But his celling is sagging just a bit for me with how bad his in close touch looks.
He should be able to play at 240 or so with no loss of athleticism. Once he gets into that 235-240 range he’s going to get more calls.
From the beginning he should have been trying to emulate Paul Pierce rather than Kobe. He’ll probably never be quite as strong as the former but it’s a guarantee he’ll never be as quick or have the first step of the latter.To my untrained eye, he doesn't have the explosion at the rim that I would expect. It almost looks like he is going up wrong footed a lot, based on how easily it appears that he is getting smothered there (compared to JB). Maybe that is just part and parcel of going up through contact.
The guy he should probably most be trying to emulate is on his own team: Hayward. Similar size, skillset, and ability to run PnR as a shooting threat from 3. Tatum could learn a lot from how under-control Hayward stays throughout the process of his probing.From the beginning he should have been trying to emulate Paul Pierce rather than Kobe. He’ll probably never be quite as strong as the former but it’s a guarantee he’ll never be as quick or have the first step of the latter.
This new version of Tatum is great for us and for him. I'm glad that he has fully bought in. But it is important for us to remember that there will be some learning curve. Taking mildly contested threes rather than stepping into wide open long twos is new for him. Prioritizing diving the rim in traffic, finishing through contact, and actively seeking free throws is also a new focus. It might take a while for the comfort level and touch to arrive. But it's something that should pay off huge.Tatum seems to have a lot of aptitude for the game of basketball along with his physical talent.
This feels like the first time he has been trying to develop his game in a particular direction. Attacking the rim (or shooting threes) while being a go to scorer.
I think there is still plenty of time for him to continue to figure things out.
I like this version of Tatum better than the “I can get a mid range jumper any time I want to do I’m just going to keep doing that” version.
He’s looking for the openings to squeeze his shot through as he isn’t big enough yet to just go through the contact and get the shot off anyway. And because he’s twisting himself into a pretzel to be able to get the shot up, he isn’t getting the calls when he gets pushed off the path to the basket. But he will eventually get strong enough to survive in traffic.He'll definitely get stronger. But I don't think his main issue so far has been finishing through contact. He's going hard to the rim, but it's kinda out of control and his shots have had no touch at all. It's weird: a lot of his drives so far look like a crappy high school player, not someone we thought had a preternatural feel for offense.
3s are the one shot of his that doesn't have me worried: he's shooting 46% right now.I really like how Tatum has looked defensively and in grabbing rebounds this year. The finishing at the rim has been weak, but that will come in time. The most surprising so far is his 3 point shooting hasn't looked that great yet - should be the easiest thing to take from off season to regular season. But, still small sample size.
There are quite a few folks on the team I wish would take more judicious 3 point attempts. Edwards putting it up from 4 feet behind the line was fun in pre-season, but now he's got much better options playing with him on the court. I feel like Smart would shoot 50% from 3 if he didn't hoist up the stupid shots.
View: https://twitter.com/RedsArmy_John/status/1188593039784239105There is absolutely zero, nothing, nada that has me worried one ounce about Tatum's game.
good article.Good article here about what Tatum is doing and what he can do at therim.
https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2019/10/why-boston-celtics-wing-jayson-tatum-is-missing-at-the-rim-video-breakdown.html
This kid is awesome and we are lucky to have him.
I hope this quiets down the Jaylen > Tatum murmurs emanating from game threads
Never!I hope this quiets down the Jaylen > Tatum murmurs emanating from game threads
Based on 8 games worth of data?I hope this quiets down the Jaylen > Tatum murmurs emanating from game threads
or 2 years and 8 games...Based on 8 games worth of data?
I like Tatum, but Brown is at another level from him currently in ability to get to the rim and finish. He’s also a bit more versatile defensively and is a monster in transition.or 2 years and 8 games...
take your pick
Ha, I'll let you have your moment since your guy went off last night.I like Tatum, but Brown is at another level from him currently in ability to get to the rim and finish. He’s also a bit more versatile defensively and is a monster in transition.
That said, Tatum has a lot of other stuff he does well, and if he can gain strength and improve finishing moves, he could leapfrog back in front.
At this point it’s more likely than not that we get to enjoy them both for a long time.
Brown around 64% at the rim for his career, about the same as Tatum, who is struggling at the tin so far this season.I'd give Tatum the edge in creating his own shot. As one example, Jaylen is mostly a spot up shooter from three, whereas Tatum can shake his man and get off a good shot from three.
Brown, this year, is stronger and a better finisher around the net, which hasn't always been the case.
It’s not a knock in Tatum, it’s excitement about Brown.I hope this quiets down the Jaylen > Tatum murmurs emanating from game threads