Butler signed that deal on August 7, 2021 when he was 32 years old.Not sure how they are getting that, Butler just signed a 3 year deal worth way over 100M.
Butler signed that deal on August 7, 2021 when he was 32 years old.Not sure how they are getting that, Butler just signed a 3 year deal worth way over 100M.
Ah, just signed way ahead of time.Butler signed that deal on August 7, 2021 when he was 32 years old.
If BOS needs to reduce salaries, they are going to have to get some assets back. Jrue's contract should be positive value for at least a couple of years. The extension was a no-brainer. Hoping they win a title (or more than one) to make Wyc keep spending the money!While I'm not concerned about anyone else's money, if I'm in the FO's shoes I go with the still high floor of Jrue rather than either trying to save a buck and gamble some cheap 30th pick performs even a portion of what he does. Or get neither of those and try to sign the devil you don't know at a large portion of Jrue's price.
On top of that, you have a nice salary slot to trade from if you need to make a big deal a few years down the road.
Yes.When can they sign Tatum to the supermax? After this season?
The league opening up to foreign money and that is only going to help valuations. If ownership wants to monetize some of their returns perhaps they can sell shares to passive foreign money. I am guessing any east coast NBA team would be attractive to investors from Europe or maybe even the Middle East who actually want to enjoy their asset.Talking ownership math, the other thing to note is a great time to sell high is after a couple titles with a core intact. So that is also a possible scenario (or, if one is cynical, part of the plan).
But my guess remains they just want to win and have decided to spend for a few years, and likely have made plenty since they last paid heavy taxes anyway
Is it just me or is this a steal compared to the $1bn in deals the Dodgers did for Yamamoto and Ohtani?View: https://twitter.com/gdudek10/status/1778235957327581615
If you count Jayson Tatum's supermax deal, which he can sign this offseason & is projected to be worth $318 million, the Celtics will spend $859 million in extensions tied to Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum, Kristaps Porzingis, Payton Pritchard and Jrue Holiday.
Right, good point. Brad can slap a First + Swap to Holiday in 2yrs to upgradeJrue's salary to upgrade via picks if the right guy comes free.
Thing is at that point Tatum is all of 28 lol, and you can probably swing Brown into significant assets and are one additional signing from another contender if cards and played correctly.u guys have a 3 year window this playoff plus 2 more years after
Just seeing this now. Fantastic.
They are, though this is also a significant money saving move short term, so even if they WERE in financial constraints, would make sense to do it and make 2026 problems 2026 problems (you can always do what I assume the Dodgers owners plan to do.... win your rings then sell some or all of your stake when the bill comes due.Hopefully this puts and end to the "Celtics owners might cheap out" and "Celtics owners might not be as liquid as everything thinks" bullshit line of conversation.
Say what you want about these guys, but they're willing to spend and want to win.
And he doesn't even need an interpreter.Is it just me or is this a steal compared to the $1bn in deals the Dodgers did for Yamamoto and Ohtani?
At the very leastu guys have a 3 year window this playoff plus 2 more years after
They've held on to so many picks (only owe one future 1st) that, at this point, Holiday is the likely guy to get traded at that point.Thing is at that point Tatum is all of 28 lol, and you can probably swing Brown into significant assets and are one additional signing from another contender if cards and played correctly.
He's on his way to Kentucky so says bluegrass fans.Yes! Now do DWhite. Get it done, Brad!
Correct. Nothing changed there. Small subset of posters will continue to put Jaylen into trades…its not happening nor should itThey've held on to so many picks (only owe one future 1st) that, at this point, Holiday is the likely guy to get traded at that point.
I was very very on the "trade Jaylen" train until his leap this year, and I had been a Jaylen guy for awhile.Correct. Nothing changed there. Small subset of posters will continue to put Jaylen into trades…its not happening nor should it
I'd be shocked if Brad didn't extend Hauser this summerBasketball strategy is my jam. This sort of thing, i.e. NBA team building with the cap is not. It seems the idea is build around a young core of great players (Tatum plus Brown), sign and trade for good or very good veterans (getting Horford and White), draft late for future role players (Pritchard plus Hauser - not drafted but still), keep the new core, then upgrade around the margins (many here). To this layman, this seems the antithesis of how several superstar teams have been constructed over the past decade though I'm sure there are other current great teams who have also followed this model.
I guess my question is is Hauser really extendable? If we assume Tatum gets the max, which he will, and White is also resigned, which should cost a lot. Hauser to me seems to be dream-ish considering he's 6'8 and just now rounding into form and plays (for his skillset) good defense even if not great defense.
I guess I'm saying Hauser seems to be a luxury. A luxury I'd love to have for the foreseeable future but also replaceable-ish as a shooter but not at his size and his ability to hold his own defensively.
Yeah, this is a lot cheaper in the short term so it's a move they almost had to make.They are, though this is also a significant money saving move short term, so even if they WERE in financial constraints, would make sense to do it and make 2026 problems 2026 problems (you can always do what I assume the Dodgers owners plan to do.... win your rings then sell some or all of your stake when the bill comes due.
Horford plays with evident joy, appears to be beloved by his teammates and coaches, and is an important part of this team’s core. He also chose to sign the specific extension, including the number of years, that he did. I suppose anything is possible but I would be shocked if Al is not with this team through the end of next year.Yes he is, but if they win it all he could easily hang it up. Tradeable deal if need be too.
Is Pagliuca richer than Wyc? I’d never stopped to consider that.Love rooting for this team, and Pags’ portfolio.
Last fall, Brad mentioned they were keeping an eye on the Damion Lillard situation, knowing that PDX would eventually end up with a pricey but talented player. As soon as Jrue Holiday was available, 99% chance Brad/Glushon spoke extension parameters. Six months after the trade they ironed out the details.I was hoping they would get Jrue for something less than $30 million per. I'm a big fan of his game (except the occasional boneheaded turnover) and he has developed a deadly corner shot, so I'm hoping this works out. I was thinking they might wait until the season played out to figure out what they wanted to do, but I imagine Jrue's agent was pressing to get this wrapped up.
I'm not the authority on this but I know somewhere in the forum this year it was said that Pags has done extremely well lately and of the two he is certainly more liquid than Wyc.Is Pagliuca richer than Wyc? I’d never stopped to consider that.
After reading their Wikipedia entries, I suspect that you might be right. Wyc seems as though he's focusing less on businesses these days outside the Celtics (though he has partnered on a tequila with Michael Jordan!) than Pagliuca is.I'm not the authority on this but I know somewhere in the forum this year it was said that Pags has done extremely well lately and of the two he is certainly more liquid than Wyc.
It would be the opposite: they'd trade Jrue.I'm glad to see Jrue's deal, but y'all seem much more optimistic on DWhite than I am. I don't want to see it, but I can certainly see them thinking that with Jrue in the fold and PP's development, that they can let DWhite leave if the money gets too high.
boston has always had great ownship in baketballHopefully this puts and end to the "Celtics owners might cheap out" and "Celtics owners might not be as liquid as everything thinks" bullshit line of conversation.
Say what you want about these guys, but they're willing to spend and want to win.
ThanksDad Gaston thanks you for your kind evaluation.boston has always had great ownship in baketball
boston has always had great ownship in baketball
Some of us are old enough to remember Irv Levin and John Y Brown. Team was close to moving out of MA in those days, thanks to those so-called owners.ThanksDad Gaston thanks you for your kind evaluation.
it's true that Red was involved with the Celtics in at least some capacity from 1950-2006, and was pretty actively involved in big decisions until at least the 1997-2001 timeframe. But we did have a pretty dark decade from Reggie Lewis's passing in 1993 and ML Carr taking over as GM in 1994 up until Danny Ainge was made GM after Wyc's acquisition of the team.i meant red