I am not a MD or anatomist, but it seems very weird to me that they can't confirm if it is ossification. AFAIK it ought to be fairly obvious on an MRI.
https://radiopaedia.org/articles/myositis-ossificans-1
Step 1 is 25 minutes in any game period.I’d like to see Kawhi put in 25 good minutes in a come from behind playoff win with a pulled hamstring.
Yup.As some wit said on twitter (paraphrasing): "Man, this young Celtics team is so good already. If they can find a way to get a scoring wing and another ball-handling PG next season, look out."
Word.Yup.
Danny will listen if Anthony Davis unexpectedly becomes available, but short of that, he’s gotta be more intrigued by what this team could do at full strength than by any blockbuster trade that might be available. (That was true before, but it’s even easier to say “no” when saying “yes” would trigger a fan revolt.)
Parker is 35 soon and a FA. He's basically cooked. Dejounte Murray has some potential but figures to be a low end starter. But the real problem is that the Celtics don't "need" Kawhi and don't have any room for him unless they move someone to the bench who doesn't deserve it (and that wouldn't go well).Stephen A suggested a Kyrie-for-Kawhi swap, straight up. SA gets a star and Boston gets a star. Never mind that SA already has a guy at the PG spot in Parker, and the Celtics already have several quality wings in Brown, Tatum, and Hayward.
Tony Parker is 35 years old and has been in the league since 2001. There's not much tread left on those tires. But yes, it would leave the Celtics with a glut of wings. But they would be very, very good wings.Stephen A suggested a Kyrie-for-Kawhi swap, straight up. SA gets a star and Boston gets a star. Never mind that SA already has a guy at the PG spot in Parker, and the Celtics already have several quality wings in Brown, Tatum, and Hayward.
And the first 3 items on that list are quickly becoming untouchable. Especially if the return is an injured rental.I also don’t see SA being super interested in Kyrie, for the same reasons that they’re willing to trade Leonard. He’s at least 4th on the list of what they would ask Ainge for.
I think it depends on what SA is looking to do. If they’re looking to see if they can contend with Aldridge, then adding Kyrie makes a lot of sense since he’d replace the scoring they lost with Kawhi leaving and is a ready made all-star. If they’re looking to blow it up and start a longer rebuild, then sure they’d prefer Tatum or Brown. My guess is that they’re going to be looking for immediate help but we’ll have to see.I also don’t see SA being super interested in Kyrie, for the same reasons that they’re willing to trade Leonard. He’s at least 4th on the list of what they would ask Ainge for.
San Antonio was Kyrie’s preferred destination last summer. Don’t know why he’d threaten to opt out and not sign long termKyrie makes no sense for the Spurs. Assuming they're both healthy (which is an issue for both) Kawhi is a significantly better player, and if they want to keep him long term they're basically guaranteed to be able to with the supermax. Kyrie can opt out after a year and they'd be left with nothing.
Last summer they were coming off a 61 win season that might have ended in a title if not for Zaza and he would have got to play with Kawhi long term. Now he'd get to play with Aldridge, mediocrity, and 1-3 cooked hall of famers while finishing middle of the pack in the west.San Antonio was Kyrie’s preferred destination last summer. Don’t know why he’d threaten to opt out and not sign long term
I think Pop will likely hang it up soon as well.Last summer they were coming off a 61 win season that might have ended in a title if not for Zaza and he would have got to play with Kawhi long term. Now he'd get to play with Aldridge, mediocrity, and 1-3 cooked hall of famers while finishing middle of the pack in the west.
I think that’s the biggest driver. The Spurs aren’t the Spurs without Pop. But it could also theoretically be a 3 team deal where Kyrie goes somewhere else and the Spurs get young players and picks.I think Pop will likely hang it up soon as well.
Just to throw another couple variable logs into the fire, you got me thinking:Yup.
Danny will listen if Anthony Davis unexpectedly becomes available, but short of that, he’s gotta be more intrigued by what this team could do at full strength than by any blockbuster trade that might be available. (That was true before, but it’s even easier to say “no” when saying “yes” would trigger a fan revolt.)
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23465885/zach-lowe-boston-celtics-toughness-nba-playoffsNote to San Antonio Spurs fans pitching Kawhi Leonard deals involving Tatum and lots of other stuff: It's not clear Boston would do Tatum for Leonard straight up without getting a clean bill of health for Leonard and an assurance he re-signs. Tatum is on a rookie deal for three more seasons. A max deal for Leonard would make it hard to keep guys like Smart and Rozier, even for the short term.
I want to see them grow up together. I think that will be an incredibly rewarding fan experience and as likely to result in a championship as a Kawhi deal would.I think this postseason that Tatum and Brown have played themselves into untouchable territory when you factor in age, ability, and contract status.
There are serious downside risks for the team that acquires Kawhi: injury and free agency are the two most significant, and the former risk is not easily quantified or mitigated. That risk needs to be weighed against that of a competing team acquiring Leonard.Would folks here rather trade Kyrie for Kawhi, or see Kawhi go to Philadelphia for Saric and a bundle of draft picks?
I don't know if the Spurs would want Kyrie or not. Maybe not. But Popovich and Buford must know that the Spurs need to rebuild. They'll try to do it on the fly (like Ainge) but they'll do it.
I am doubtful that Saric + LAL/SAC (likely mid lottery either year) pick gets it done. PHI has no other future picks besides those that are worth anything, so it would take including Fultz? Something else?Would folks here rather trade Kyrie for Kawhi, or see Kawhi go to Philadelphia for Saric and a bundle of draft picks?
+1 agreed.I think this postseason that Tatum and Brown have played themselves into untouchable territory when you factor in age, ability, and contract status.
It would have to be Saric/Fultz/#10/filler for Kawhi. That’s not a great return for a top 5 guy if Fultz doesn’t fix his shot. Spurs would be taking on a lot of risk so I can’t see them favoring an offer like that.I am doubtful that Saric + LAL/SAC (likely mid lottery either year) pick gets it done. PHI has no other future picks besides those that are worth anything, so it would take including Fultz? Something else?
And if that is the offer, I think there are other teams that could beat that.
I don't know. Thats a pretty spectacular return, especially if it is SAC pick. With Kawhi's injury questions, his impending free agency, and his apparent disdain for playing in SA, his value would seem to be pretty similar to what CLE got for Kyrie himself. And Kyrie did not net a Kyrie-like player in return.Kyrie+ a pick for Kawhi is as high as I'd like to see Danny go. And that's probably not enough for SA to get it done
Yikes, The Sixers could get Kawhi and have room for a max free agent (Lebron or Paul George).I am doubtful that Saric + LAL/SAC (likely mid lottery either year) pick gets it done. PHI has no other future picks besides those that are worth anything, so it would take including Fultz? Something else?
And if that is the offer, I think there are other teams that could beat that.
I was thinking Celtics pick. Maybe throw in MaMo. If this is Pop's last season they may want a savvy vet, like Mook, instead of youngsters. Still think other teams have more to offer.I don't know. Thats a pretty spectacular return, especially if it is SAC pick. With Kawhi's injury questions, his impending free agency, and his apparent disdain for playing in SA, his value would seem to be pretty similar to what CLE got for Kyrie himself. And Kyrie did not net a Kyrie-like player in return.
It's basic math.We’re approaching “Yankees will sign every free agent ever!!” territory here. I’ve heard LeBron, Kawhi, PG, and Klay so far.
Yeah, it’s not likely but it certainly is do-able based on their cap situation.It's basic math.
Sixers lose Amir ($11M) and JJ ($23) this season ~ $34M that leads to a max contract. So they are one of the few teams that can shop for Lebron or Paul George.
Klay is signed for next season ($19M), so not sure how he is getting thrown around?
If they deal Bayless($8.5M) + Saric($3.2) + Fultz ($8.3M) ~ $20MM in cap space that makes getting Kawhi possible.
Carry on DrewDawg
I think this is right. Fultz being a net negative really screwed them here. It’s a tough decision but a ballsy move that makes them more competitive. All it takes is Lebron staying and PG picking LA for Philly to suddenly be exploring a one year extension for Redick.If I'm the Sixers I'd offer Simmons for Kawhi straight up and try to sign Lebron. McConnell and Fultz (hopefully) can man the PG position.
Sixers Head Coach, Brett Brown yesterday:We’re approaching “Yankees will sign every free agent ever!!” territory here. I’ve heard LeBron, Kawhi, PG, and Klay so far.
Side note on LBJ. I read a snippet this week that the Staples Center installed a Blaze Pizza this past season. They are leaving no stone unturned and I expect him to head to the Lakers. (He’s a primary investor in Blaze).I think this is right. Fultz being a net negative really screwed them here. It’s a tough decision but a ballsy move that makes them more competitive. All it takes is Lebron staying and PG picking LA for Philly to suddenly be exploring a one year extension for Redick.
I’m not saying they can’t afford him. I’m saying we’re assuming it’s a done deal. Like we used to say about the Yankees.It's basic math.
Sixers lose Amir ($11M) and JJ ($23) this season ~ $34M that leads to a max contract. So they are one of the few teams that can shop for Lebron or Paul George.
Klay is signed for next season ($19M), so not sure how he is getting thrown around?
Kawhi would have to obtained via a trade with matching salaries. So if the Sixers deal Bayless($8.5M) + Saric($3.2) + Fultz ($8.3M) + picks/youngsters ~ $20MM in cap space that makes getting Kawhi possible.
Carry on DrewDawg
Again, that wasn’t my point. This week it’s Kawhi. Next week it’s LeBron.Sixers Head Coach, Brett Brown yesterday:
"I think another high level free-agent is required [to win a championship]. I think we have the ability to attract one."
http://www.complex.com/sports/2018/05/brett-brown-believes-his-76ers-need-help-to-win-title
He’s working on a team friendly deal.I’m not saying they can’t afford him. I’m saying we’re assuming it’s a done deal. Like we used to say about the Yankees.
Yes, I know Klay is signed. There were talks GSW might deal him if he doesn’t want to take a team friendly deal.
Who is assuming it’s a done deal? There is clear risk in Philly striking out on every top target. But they absolutely are going to go after them. This is their big summer and they need to add another star. We’ll see if they are able to do so but they’ll be in the mix for basically every single one.I’m not saying they can’t afford him. I’m saying we’re assuming it’s a done deal. Like we used to say about the Yankees.
Yes, I know Klay is signed. There were talks GSW might deal him if he doesn’t want to take a team friendly deal.
The more interesting question is where do they draw the line? Honestly it seems like James and George are a longshot. Chris Paul probably isn't leaving Houston, and after that you're looking at younger players (good) with considerable limitations or risk associated with their game. I mean, Sixers fans would be rightly pissed off if they open the vaults for Tyreke Evans and someone like Cousins isn't really a fit with what they're trying to do, although if he's the best available, I don't see why you don't sign and make it work later...Who is assuming it’s a done deal? There is clear risk in Philly striking out on every top target. But they absolutely are going to go after them. This is their big summer and they need to add another star. We’ll see if they are able to do so but they’ll be in the mix for basically every single one.
SA would have to be one of the best places for Fultz to land, for his own sake, assuming Pop sticks around for a couple seasons.It would have to be Saric/Fultz/#10/filler for Kawhi. That’s not a great return for a top 5 guy if Fultz doesn’t fix his shot. Spurs would be taking on a lot of risk so I can’t see them favoring an offer like that.
It’s definitely going to be fascinating. I don’t see Philly landing any marquee FAs so they’ll have to decide if they want to go after the second tier guys. Just can’t see them signing Cousins given his injury and poor fit with Embiid. Kawhi makes the most sense and seems to be the most realistic option for an impact guy but you’re obviously taking on a lot of risk there. This is why the Fultz trade was so disastrous for Philly. Not only did they receive the worse player but they also lost a valuable trade chip in Sac 2019.The more interesting question is where do they draw the line? Honestly it seems like James and George are a longshot. Chris Paul probably isn't leaving Houston, and after that you're looking at younger players (good) with considerable limitations or risk associated with their game. I mean, Sixers fans would be rightly pissed off if they open the vaults for Tyreke Evans and someone like Cousins isn't really a fit with what they're trying to do, although if he's the best available, I don't see why you don't sign and make it work later...
gross. that is a terrible return for Kawhi.Saric, T.J. McConnell, #10, and a bevy of second rounders might be a decent return for Kawhi. The Spurs also pick up a big trade exception.