The story will end with a standoff between LaVar and Magic and Lonzo will choose his new dad. LaVar will then spend the rest of his life unsuccessfully trying to re-insert himself into Lonzo’s life.So this ends with either Lonzo playing in Lithuania, or Lonzo breaking away from dad. The entertainment will never end.
Or maybe Lonzo becomes such a transcendent star that they sign LiAngelo and LaMelo off the bench.So this ends with either Lonzo playing in Lithuania, or Lonzo breaking away from dad. The entertainment will never end.
But if Lonzo has enough pull with the Lakers to make this a possibility, and Lavar has enough pull with Lonzo to insist upon it, what happens when Lavar starts demanding Gelo and Melo start too?Or maybe Lonzo becomes such a transcendent star that they sign LiAngelo and LaMelo off the bench.
13 guys per NBA roster. Cap dynamics aside, it's actually not such a big cost to throw away two roster spots, especially on league minimum guys.
Lithuania would get Magic in any sort of trade so LaVar would run the Lakers.But if Lonzo has enough pull with the Lakers to make this a possibility, and Lavar has enough pull with Lonzo to insist upon it, what happens when Lavar starts demanding Gelo and Melo start too?
LaVar is gonna take this newfound "rivalry" with LeBron and absolutely run with its narrative!It’s going to be hysterical when Lonzo gets dealt away from the Lakers this off season. lebron is coming, but Lonzo won’t be there
LiAngelo, 19, averaged 12.6 points on 42.5 percent shooting and 2.9 rebounds in 21.7 minutes per game, mostly off the bench, over 14 appearances for Vytautas, according to RealGM.com. He has reportedly been battling an ankle injury. The 16-year-old LaMelo, meanwhile, has appeared in just eight games, averaging 6.5 points on 26.8 percent shooting and 2.4 minutes in 12.8 minutes, per RealGM’s database.
They lasted much longer than I thought. Maybe Lavar is maturing.Wow. Daddy will be pulling them off that team within five games. Blaming the poor coaching of course for not giving them more minutes, not the fact that they're overmatched.
Or maybe he's lost a step because of age.They lasted much longer than I thought. Maybe Lavar is maturing.
Or they don't have many options at this point besides suckling off bro's teet.Or maybe he's lost a step because of age.
There are worse options. It makes it easier to watch the disaster that is Lavar Ball unfold when you know that Lonzo's contract likely offers his brothers somewhat of a safety net from a standard of living perspective. It's still pretty much beyond debate that Lavar has done irreparable harm to their careers- high-school, college, and any chance they had at the NBA, but it's not like they're going to be working at McDonald's in two years.Or they don't have many options at this point besides suckling off bro's teet.
I think they'd have the same problem in Canada as in Europe. None of the better coached teams like Carleton or Ryerson would want anything to do with Lavar, so they'd have to find something lower, with a coach who would be subjected to ridicule from pops.Liangelo can still be eligible to play college in Canada. The programs up here range from good mid major to bad naia. Surely there is a spot somewhere.
Much better when the family was away.Different as in better when the family was away? Or worse?
He was a sub 50% FT shooter for the entire yearMuch better when the family was away.
I mean, Lonzo was a sub-60% FT shooter for the first part of the season, and it’s not like he had the hips or something. Have to think the family drama was affecting his preparation or something.
Fair point — he was 8-21 from the line in a SSS after returning from his injury. His overall game was better during that time, and I stupidly assumed his FT% had improved too.He was a sub 50% FT shooter for the entire year
Hips. I laughed.Much better when the family was away.
I mean, Lonzo was a sub-60% FT shooter for the first part of the season, and it’s not like he had the hips or something. Have to think the family drama was affecting his preparation or something.
Isn’t that how most people start? Certainly everyone I know. Sure, children have awful form because they lack strength, but they figure it out over time.I read someplace that they have weird shots because dad had them shooting on 10 foot hoops with regulation balls from the start and of course didn’t have strength to get ball there. No idea if that’s true but it’s cool to think it is.
There's a Michael Porter Jr piece on the Ringer at the moment about how Porter Sr trained his kids by lowering the hoop as much as possible so that they'd have proper form from a very young age. So maybe most people do, but it's not optimal.Isn’t that how everyone starts? Certainly everyone I know. Sure, children have awful form because they lack strength, but they figure it out over time.
We definitely had much lower hoops in elementary school. I think in junior high the full-court was 10' hoops but the cross-court hoops were still a little lower.Isn’t that how most people start? Certainly everyone I know. Sure, children have awful form because they lack strength, but they figure it out over time.
Yes this is how we all started back in the day before adjustable height rims became available. It's a lame jab at Pops despite the pain I feel for defending him here.Isn’t that how most people start? Certainly everyone I know. Sure, children have awful form because they lack strength, but they figure it out over time.
I see it as a bit of a shot at the dad no matter where you stand on this tall hoop theory, considering how much control he appears to have over their sports careers.Yes this is how we all started back in the day before adjustable height rims became available. It's a lame jab at Pops despite the pain I feel for defending him here.
Yeah I mean you can nail him on so many other things that picking something like this is very much a reach since it has been effective in building shooters strength and range for decades without negatively affecting proper mechanics.I see it as a bit of a shot at the dad no matter where you stand on this tall hoop theory, considering how much control he appears to have over their sports careers.
Maybe I wasn’t clear. What I mean is, one could argue the kids having terrible shooting form is the dad’s fault, regardless of how they got there, since he is so controlling. As I mentioned, I don’t buy the tall hoop theory because it has been proven that children can transform their shot as they mature. However, a failure to make such corrections to their form does fall at least partially on his shoulders, especially if he was going to take them on this pro basketball-or-bust life mission.Yeah I mean you can nail him on so many other things that picking something like this is very much a reach since it has been effective in building shooters strength and range for decades without negatively affecting proper mechanics.
Yup - he said his wife had a stroke so she can learn to be quiet.Yeah I mean you can nail him on so many other things that picking something like this is very much a reach since it has been effective in building shooters strength and range for decades without negatively affecting proper mechanics.
In my opinion this goes way beyond Lavar Ball, as it's the 3 point line, not the 10 foot hoops causing this. Before the 3 point line little kids had bad form until they got strong enough to reach the 10 foot hoop. Now, as soon as they can reach they immediately head for the 3 point line and start chucking it up from there, and a lot of them NEVER get strong enough to have good form from there.I read someplace that they have weird shots because dad had them shooting on 10 foot hoops with regulation balls from the start and of course didn’t have strength to get ball there. No idea if that’s true but it’s cool to think it is.
It's been in a couple of places. Kevin O'Connor's article in the Ringer mentions it here. Also, here's another story: https://lonzowire.usatoday.com/2018/03/08/heres-why-lamelo-ball-shoots-the-ball-with-two-hands/I read someplace that they have weird shots because dad had them shooting on 10 foot hoops with regulation balls from the start and of course didn’t have strength to get ball there. No idea if that’s true but it’s cool to think it is.
The problem is that Lavar had his kids playing against much older competition from jump street so in order to compete, they had to stay with the weird mechanics. By the time they got old enough to shoot with their regular mechanics (in fact, it's not clear LaMelo could shoot with regular mechanics since he needs to spend a bunch of time in the weight room), the stakes were too high to change.Maybe I wasn’t clear. What I mean is, one could argue the kids having terrible shooting form is the dad’s fault, regardless of how they got there, since he is so controlling. As I mentioned, I don’t buy the tall hoop theory because it has been proven that children can transform their shot as they mature. However, a failure to make such corrections to their form does fall at least partially on his shoulders, especially if he was going to take them on this pro basketball-or-bust life mission.
Okay, this is believable, but it seems to me that there should be some time during the year to work on this. And the mechanics change needs to come much, much earlier than the year before UCLA. That was doomed to fail.The problem is that Lavar had his kids playing against much older competition from jump street so in order to compete, they had to stay with the weird mechanics. By the time they got old enough to shoot with their regular mechanics (in fact, it's not clear LaMelo could shoot with regular mechanics since he needs to spend a bunch of time in the weight room), the stakes were too high to change.
For example, I believe Lonzo tried different mechanics before his freshman season with UCLA when the team toured Australia but he wasn't getting it and he had to scrap the changes when basketball season came about in order to produce.
Tweaking one's mechanics as Tatum did isn't hard. But changing one's mechanics completely - as we know from various threads we have had on the Sox and their minor league pitchers - is really hard to do and really hard to stick to when the lights come on and the games are for real.