I meant Duncan Robinson.
I meant Duncan Robinson.
Oh, yeah, I wouldn’t buy that part. I was more commenting on people that think that wingspan can be looked at in a vacuum. Kendrick Perkins had an obscene wingspan, in part because he was so bloody wide. But he was also a bloody marshwiggle, all arms and legs. Guys like Jae Crowder have elite wingspans, but not due to the arm length so much as the breadth from shoulder to shoulder. 6’5” guys with a +4 wingspan should have a better than 8’3” standing reach unless they’re built like NFL defensive linemen.The more I look, there are too many exceptions to think arm length has much to do with shot.
I’d compare it to weightlifting where the shorter arms cause less wasted motion and better form. In the case of shooting a basketball this fits perfectly with free throw shooting which is a stationary movement with muscle memory built off repitions. Shooting in game flow is trickier as this type of shooter would generally be best when stationary with space or he won’t get off a clean look, rush shot, etc.Neither a here or there.....But....
I wonder if Shorter arms are a function and not a bug. Like "shorter Guys are better shooters" (both FT and regular).
Less "moving parts" if you will.
Is this a universal absolute? Of course not. But shorter arms may lend themselves to more repeatable shot mechanics???
Young will make alot of money playing half the Game of BB.
Those numbers are hilarious BTW. I wonder what a guy who just stood still would get for a rating.
They aren't in the same universe but I think our opinion of Iverson's defense isn't either. At best, Iverson was passable. At worst, hideable. Trae Young could be historically bad.Yes, and my point is that it is not that it is an imperfect overall comparison it is that it is wildely inaccurate. That said, if your point is that they are similar offensively (and you note leading the league in scoring) that's totally reasonable. But defensively these guys are not in the same universe and that matters a great deal.
Yeah, what? “Grant has short arms” is...a take, I suppose.Grant is 6'6" with a 6'10" or 6'11" wingspan, thats not bad.
There's this scouting report that has him at 6'7.5 height, 6"9.75 wingspan. 8'8.5 standing reach. That would give him TRex arms by NBA standards for wingspan and reach.Yeah, what? “Grant has short arms” is...a take, I suppose.
There is also a huge difference in the approach to basketball between 2000 and 2020. The game was played more at the rim, so having a great rim protector behind Iverson (first Theo Ratliff and then Dikembe) made a big difference as far as a team's overall defensive value. Perimeter defense was not nearly as important as it is now, and teams didn't put Iverson in a screening situation every time down like they do with Young. The amount of off-the-dribble pull-up threes taken in 2020 is insanely high compared to 2000, and if you can't fight through them you are going to be killed. That simply wasn't the case in 2020. The era of super-sized ball handlers also was not as prevalent, almost every team had a Iverson-sized player on the court at all times, as opposed to 2020 when a lot of times play lineups with nobody under 6'6".They aren't in the same universe but I think our opinion of Iverson's defense isn't either. At best, Iverson was passable. At worst, hideable. Trae Young could be historically bad.
Grant Williams, according to NBA pre-draft measurements, is 6’5-3/4” (in his bare feet) with a +4 wingspan.There's this scouting report that has him at 6'7.5 height, 6"9.75 wingspan. 8'8.5 standing reach. That would give him TRex arms by NBA standards for wingspan and reach.
Most have him at 6'5-6'6 and a 6'10-6'11 wingspan, and 8'8.5. That would give him above average arm length in both wingspan and reach.
With the exception of @Conigliaro's Potential I might be the biggest Ice Trae fan here. I love watching him and he was very efficient last year, with a 60% TS%. Last season he became the third player ever to be 6'1" or shorter and average at least 9 FTA per game, after Tiny Archibald and Allen Iverson. He is basically like a mini-Harden. If Atlanta wants to build around him, they are going to need to surround him with big wings and strong defensive players, as well as have a very disciplined system that protects him as best as possible. They haven't done that yet, but it can be done.Trae’s biggest issue on defense, IMO, is getting around screens. Set a pick on him and he’s done.
I probably go to 8-10 Hawks games a year and when it looked like Luka would fall to Atlanta at three, I was set on getting a season ticket package because going to hoops in person is about my favorite thing to do. And it would be fun to have a real superstar here in Atlanta. Ahh what might have been. Screw you, Travis Schlenk!
Trae’s still pretty fun to watch though—that low release point with the super quick release. And the passing.
Michael Phelps hereIf people are bored
https://www.bergfreunde.eu/ape-index-calculator/
Mine was 1.07 and I am the basketball player Misan Haldin.
I guess there are 2 APEs. One that is Wingspan minus height and another that is wingspan divided by height. My other APE is 1.10. Both are elite.
Even that gets complicated. Doesn't it depend on whether the player is wearing high heels or not?They do that for every player. It's called height. I think I'm missing something?
What I found for G Will was a 6'11" wing span. For players selected in the 2019 draft, SF averaged exactly that, 6'11". PF averaged 6'11.5".We’re certainly hoping this is true for Grant Williams, who makes a T-Rex look like Inspector Gadget.
I had see the 6’9.75" number (the Ringer’s draft guide had that number, among other places), which struck me as short, especially as someone who might project as a power forward/big wing. Part of that is probably reinforced by nighthob’s point about effective length and his arm length relative to his general body width.What I found for G Will was a 6'11" wing span. For players selected in the 2019 draft, SF averaged exactly that, 6'11". PF averaged 6'11.5".
So how close to T-Rex range G Will may be seems to be up for discussion.
http://www.draftexpress.com/average-measurements-by-position/2019/NBA+Draft+Combine/all/60/
https://www.nbadraft.net/players/grant-williams/
Please look here for official measurements. Gwilly is 6'5-3/4" tall with a +4 wingspan.What I found for G Will was a 6'11" wing span. For players selected in the 2019 draft, SF averaged exactly that, 6'11". PF averaged 6'11.5".
So how close to T-Rex range G Will may be seems to be up for discussion.
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/what-does-your-body-say-about-you-123891news if you have long arms - you are less likely to get Alzheimer's. A study published in the journal Neurology found that a one-inch increase in arm span reduced the risk of Alzheimer's by 10% and dementia by 7%.